New DOOM 3 Screenshots

Wow could I see a bigger group of cry babies? To me it looks like a large number of people have just been wetting their pants waiting for something bad about Doom 3 to come out and now this flash flood of anti-ID bullshit is waving over us like a... big, uh, flash flood of, uh, whiney poopy bullshit.

Man, I totally lost my flow on that one.

Either way...

SHUT UP OH MY GOD PLEASE SHUT UP

or... wait...

KEEP GOING WE'RE ALLL ENTITLED TO OUR OPINION AND NO ONE SHOULD LISTEN TO ME!!! GO! GO! GO!!!

These have got to be the worse screenshots of the game I've ever seen. You see the polygon claws on the dude??? The textures on the monitors are as good as Unreal 1. Come on guys. If this guy is an army dude then he better have

a. Glasses on
b. normal 20/20 vision.

Good grief I thought Doom 3 would changed that by now. Plus these monitor screens don't look like people could actual use them for any reason. Bunch of made up pics on them. Fucking horrible. I thought ID would do a better job than this but I guess not. WILL ANYONE MAKE THIER FUCKING ENVIROMENTS SEEM REAL!!?!???!??? Good god I'm depressed. :(

I'm not a troll I actually do think these are bad. Better mip mapping and better textures is my complaint.

I just took a moment to hit F11 and lean back in my chair before viewing the uh... "Imp" (Thats Mr. Imp, Sir. please-dont-eat-me!) in its 1600x1200 glory, and holy shit. I cant wait.

To all poly nay sayers: Have you looked at the "square" fingers in other games? This happens to be the first ACTION GAME screenshot that I have seen splayed fingers in, ever. My opinion, in the words of Pvt. Hudson: "That's it, man. Game over, man! Game over!"

i take it that there is no software renderer option for this game?

i dont see anything wrong with this shots, the models are very detailed, nothing like ive seen before. If you complaining about low poly models, look at ut2003, they are low poly also.

I have only one question. Doom3 or Unreal 2 / 2003, who is the technology king?

Last night I saw something interesting on my ceiling:
I turned on a light which was placed on the floor. Above the lightsource were some pipes and stuff. The shadows on the ceiling were HARD, not soft as everybody here wants to see in Doom 3. Hard shadows and it was not a super intensive lightsource. Actually you could justify the brightness and it was as low as possible.
Conclusion: Not every shadow has to be soft. And in a game hard shadows look ways better because you notice them.

so does that second shot remove any doubts about the engine being able to do soft shadows?

For all those people who think this and that is a placeholder and everything will look better when it's done: they're wrong.

I can't remember one single game where the hope for the substitution of a texture / model which was suspected by the community to be a placeholder became true.

This screenshot No. 1 looks very good - when you look at it at the right perspective.
Of course the head looks angular, because he's angular. The ugly seam on his forehead doesn't make it better. But when you look closely enough you'll see that the scenery is bumpmapped indeed. Take a look at the downright corner and you'll see every nut and bolt completely detailed mapped out. Then take a look at the the other support structures for this bent bars and you'll see them looking pretty flat - that's the tradeoff with bump mapping. A bumpmap without a moving light looks pretty flat because in reality it's flat.

Bump mapping is nothing but a hack to improve visual quality and to create a more realistic looking environment. So if a lightsource wasn't placed exactely in the most perfect place to take a screenshot you'll be able to notice the shortcomings.

From what I've seen of Doom in motion I'm much more than confident that id will deliver 100% of what they've promised.

They might have some shortcomings in the gameply departement, but only if you expect them compete with more complex character developing and NPC/storyline interactive games.

Don't expect a Doom game to be more than it is - you don't expect a Schwarzenegger to be more than a in your face action movie. id software are the Schwarzeneggers of action games - other development houses emphasize other aspects, but id software is id software.

It's not meant to lower your expectations, but you should know where realistic expectations stop and wishfull thinking starts. Don't buy a Porsche 911 when you want to take your wife, three kids and 5 bikes with you all the time.

Every game that tries to achieve every goal from graphics over highly innovative gameplay aspects to squad based inside outside landscape single multi coop experiences are like to fail or never to get finished.

You cannot buy Doom3 and return it the other day because it isn't a flight sim RPG MMORPGAA RTS thinking mans shooter race flight dive swim hunt camp sim city sims black and white red and blue pill game.

Doom3 = single player action.
Install, tweak your graphics, don't learn any new control but enter = use / mleft = fire, have fun with it and that's it. Three months later come back and play mods, user made missions, a little DM or watch some nice machinima movies. That's Doom. Other games are other games.

That's why there are so many developers out there:
To justify your 100GB HDD by installing and playing every game you want.

Maybe our children will see games that do everything to everybody.

what i would like to know... now that quakecon is underway showing the new doom3 footage.... what is it like :)...

and why has nobody sneaked in a cam yet :-PP

I can already picture the message boards and all the main complaints when the game comes out

1) bland colors limited color pallet (personally I think it will be better to have less colors rather than having rainbow/circus colors in this type of game) Q3 added some fruity colors variety many complained that it was too colorful, yet others still pursist that it was bland colors

2)Oh man the game is not complete we only get deathmatch and ctf

3)The weapons suk, where is the secondary fire

4)This is not like the original its totally different

5)Single player sucks

6)Game is too linear (when the game is specifically driven by a written story)

7) Low poly's wtf

etc etc

I think looking at the poly's isnt that important when it comes to viewing screenshots because you can almost never notice every polygon while an entity is moving. I mean, those 2 screenshots already has too many poly's and thats a Non-Moving Pic (doh).

The video was so amazing. I nearly shat myself..lol

O god...so...beautiful...must play DOOM III now plz...once again id has outdone themselves.

Btw I can't tell but are there people complaining about low poly fingers? Um well, seems pretty fucking sweet to me that the thing actually HAS fingers...this is the first game I've ever seen where the models actually have indepedent digits on their hands. In motion it will probably make me pee my pants. Halo 2 and DOOM 3 are going to bring us into a new era of graphical goodness, with DOOM having the slight lead. All in all CAN'T FUCKING WAIT!

From what I understand, the higher the poly count on the monsters the more CPU power required to generate shadows. Current CPUs can only do so much.

But since the characters are being made at very high poly counts hopefully id will release a set high poly of characters to be used on fast systems or just for fun.

one cool thing about id games is that i NEVER had a really buggy game that would just crash on my system and wouldnt run. doom 3 should be no exception (duh) if i ran into a problem it was usually my hware.

i don't buy games for graphics, i buy them for gameplay. oh my god, this game looks awful, look at those low poly graphics. wow they only use grey or browns, they suck. quake 3 sucks because there are too many colors.

why doesn't id release a video? i doubt anyone's going to not buy the game because they didn't release a video. so far it's been hype without oversaturation. i just hope they don't start doing a screenshot a day, ala tribes 2 or ut2k2. i will have to die

I posted this in ER, but it should have been here:

http://cq3.nofadz.com/doom3/

Bah, fuck all this negativity.

When I saw the UAC symbol in the second shot, I creamed my pants. I'm already sold.

Good atmosphere with the environment buy the creatures are 'ok'.

But as usual, granted this is the theme and it seems to always be thier theme but ID as usual is real good at rendering BLACK.

I don't think they can make a game with color.

If id wants to emphasize the script so much why do they release these screenshots?

Let's get some fucking text up yo, Zork style.

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Werd.

How did Carmack create such a high poly engine?

The mind reels...

Why were these shots released?

You know that amazingly beautiful girl you know who has great personality, but somehow she is not as pretty in photos as she is in person? Doom3 is that girl.

Doom3 is inherently not screenshotgenic, yet it still looks arguably better than anything out there right now. Programming is all about trade-offs, and lots of compromises were made to make dynamic lighting feasible on current generation hardware. Unfortunately this is the one thing a screen shot can not capture - it only shows non-dynamic things. Seeing it in motion is another matter.

Those graphics dont look like anything special to me. Those claws are like 4 polygons. I though this was going to be close to like movie quality 3D. I guess its more like half life in a higher resolution.

For those of you who are complaining about the graphics of doom3, I would like to see a screenshot of another game that looks better.....

have you seen a game that uses bump mapping and at the same time cast shadows on other parts of the model. The bump mapping makes the game semi realistic like clay rather than the typical cartoon game

After looking at the imp wouldn't it be cool to have animated skins on some of these models? Like skin crawling with flames and bump maps appearing and disappearing.

Can't wait to strafe dodge some imp firebals!

i feel this may give system shock 2 a run for its money in scaryness
i hope its got a good fuckin story line

It's a game for Christ's sake. Get over it!

Damn, you guys are a bunch of geeks. :)

Can I get a Love love love ?!

Why the fuck these id guys just dont release a kickass 5 minute HIGH QUALITY movie is beyond me. It would stoofoo everyone and give us all chubbies. Just an insane quality movie of a small level. Show a few monsters, have some eerie sounds, some jiggly breasts, and sprinkle on some over-the-top gore.

Is it true that Doom 3 makes use of Direct Crate(tm) in Direct X 9?

games today have to be more interactive and user changable... an uber character creation system where everyone who plays the game will probably look different creating a more personal feel. as well as more ways to interact with others and the envioroment

it always happens.. naysayer will take dick out of ass and be first in line to buy when the game ships

I refuse to play this game on anything less then a 5.1 speaker system with a 21 inch monitor or better.

Oh, and all the lights turned off, and it better be raining outside on that day.

:)