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• park down the street and snipe him. : mrmung
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  drive a bus and block off the alleyway. then run around in circles dodging bullets while you shoot the b... : dodob
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    Several ordinary cars will work too. As an addendum, be sure to leave NO space open for Salvatore, or h... : Lone Swordsman
    • or throw grens over the bus :) : halfwaybastard
  • if you attack when he is still in the alley he will turn around and run back in to the club making you l... : Crimsonbeak
  • i used grenades to blow the blockage and his convoy to kingdom come one explosion blows up two cars w... : mr brown
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  FUCKING SPOILER : airrob
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    You want a spoiler? You're going to die alone... : V0lk
    • triumph : crotchbat
• Wait till you see his car driving towards you (from the driveway of the mansion), then start chucking gr... : Stinkcan
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  Park down hill from the club so you can just see his posse but they will ignore you. When he comes out g... : Mantle
  • snipoer method works better from the roof : Ratalon
• Be lucky like I was and crash your car next to his, then your car will explode killing him and his goons... : g30f
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  go on to the roof of the building opposite the club and snipe from there ... even easier than sniping fr... : jcupitt
  • That's what I did and it worked a treat. (Are you the jc on the list?) : nudel
• I blocked the entrance with two delivery trucks, and then chucked lotsa grenades into the vehicle mass j... : moshman

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• WHY IS THIS PROCESS TAKING 99% OF MY CPU! : ashkie
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  I have an idea, why don't you call him a dumb fuck to his/her face instead of posting it on the shack? : jerkinisnice
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    because i like getting paychecks? : mr brown
    • well, can't argue with that. : jerkinisnice
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  car mechanic prob says ur a dumbfuck too. : phil_mckraken
  • hehe, making a point not a personal attack, sorry. That reads really bad. : phil_mckraken
  • when i say "dumb fuck" im not referring to just this one email, but about 16 months of dealing with them... : mr brown
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    hey interesting point when you look at the fact he's TRIED to work it out and looked around a little - i... : abrasion
    • tried to work it out, and come to all the wrong conclusions... "hmm something called 'Idle' is using ... : mr brown
    • I can relate though. I'm a programmer so of course everyone thinks I can fix any computer problem, hardw... : phil_mckraken
• fucking idle process : pinkeye
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  I particularly liked the guy who I was talking to in Virginia (I'm in Texas). I told him to log into th... : Q-ball
  • Couldn't you have just killed the process? The grad student was able to! : Topaz
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  I thought ending that process froze the comp? : Ratalon
  • "The operation could not be completed. The operation is not valid for this process." : cheshirecat

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• a Russian bride : Degenerate
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  buy a GBA and have an Afterburner installed in it. Then buy Golden Sun and Super Mario Advance 2. : slax0r
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    Got GBA. Don't have an Afterburner. Hardly play the GBA though. I mostly play Solitaire on my T68 phone ... : nudel
    • I use mine more now that it has the AB in it, because I can play at night right before I go to bed. : slax0r
• you have all 3 consoles? You = splurger. Just buy lots of dvds : anon@syr.edu
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  Buy this: http://www.samsungmonitor.com/html/products/1200nf.htm You'll thank me as soon as you get i... : Vantage
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    what res do you run that at? ... i'm thinking about getting a new monitor.. don't know if I should go 1... : crotchbat
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      I run at 1600x1200@85hz, but mainly because that's the best my old video card could do. now that I just... : Vantage
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        that sounds awesome... I wonder if it would be worth the xtra $ to go over 19"... oh and do they come in... : crotchbat
        • I don't know if they come in black... If you can't swing the dough for a 22" (I've said this already, bu... : Vantage
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    I wouldn't mind a flat panel monitor, thinking about it... But they're still too expensive for what you ... : nudel
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      Huh? that's not a flat panel LCD monitor, it's a crt monitor with a perfectly flat screen (better, imo)... : Vantage
      • I know. :) But I still would like a flat panel since it would use less desk space etc. Hmm, that said, u... : nudel
    • I'm switching back from a flat panel to a crt on my gaming rig. They really can't compete no matter how... : crotchbat
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    that looks really expensive : anon@syr.edu
    • Pricewatch says a little over $600USD. I paid $1250CDN for it in december, and it is worth every penny. : Vantage
  • Do you like those better than the comparably priced Trinitrons? : cheshirecat
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  Buy a new computer and give your old one to me! : awoihjaweohr
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    The fan will deafen you! : nudel
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      Unless its louder than a powersaw held two inches from your ear(my computer). Then no, it will not :-). : awoihjaweohr
      • Sounds like you already have my computer. Damn Delta fans. (Or rather, damn flakey motherboard chipset t... : nudel

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• There is a god! Praise the lord! At least! : nudel
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  they will fix it in that same service pack that logs your PID, your installed software and version numbe... : goatsecxy
  • heh, in that case either get the hotfix when/if it comes out, or stick with NVRefresh. : the archvile
  • Personal freedom and civil liberties are a small price to pay for a 100hz refresh rate. : nudel
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    is that crap going to be in Win2K SP3? Did MS even say they were doing a third service pack for Win2K? : the archvile
    • I've seen a lot of 2K hotfixes with (Pre-SP3) in the name, so I think they're planning on it...not sure,... : FlyingButtPliers
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    Despite the paranoid "OMG THEY'RE GONNA BREAK MY PIRATED SOFTWARE!!!" mentality, knowing what hardware a... : Sludgehead
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      Of course, that's just a shield for what they're really trying to accomplish: World Domination : anon@syr.edu
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        Perhaps, but in this day and age you can forget about privacy... it isn't just Microsoft "violating" you... : Sludgehead
        • Hooray for liberty! : anon@syr.edu
    • then again, it's usually just some obscurely named service you can stop and disable, though they'll prob... : the archvile
• it seems that everytime i install a service pack, something goes very wrong on my computer. : sweat
• Looks like its a DX9 fix and only fixes direct3d, opengl will still have the problem. : firehawk
• Dont download that they will block your cd key from windows XP in this service pack : Aminotaur
• This is just insanely funny. Thanks for the feature Microsoft!!!!! : Chicks Dig Me
• Nvidia refresh rate fix! : Ratalon

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• no nudity? What kind of shacker are you? : Dreagon
• NEVER GET OUT OF THE BOAT! NEVER GET OUT OF THE BOAT! : g30f
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  Translation: you are secretly afraid that Mike Tyson will recover after his defeat, to his former toughn... : infidel
  • im......speechles... : evil-cow
• BAT COUNTRY! : Rotten Deadite
• Tim Burton could direct it : Entity
• LSD : scharfschuetze

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• usually see quite a few around the buffalo area, but the further you get away from canada the less you s... : halfwaybastard
• Yep, anywhere that Canadians come to the US in droves, you'll find canadian flags. Anything to drum up ... : Former_HPB
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  Because Patriotic (Racist - Belligerent) Americans don't eye you as wearily if you have a flag on your c... : overtoke
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    Being patriotic doesn't equal racism or being belligerant. You need to go have another joint and ponder... : Phil
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      I think he refers to those "excessive" patriots. More like you'd see on TV; the guy who's a patriot and ... : Entity
      • "see on TV" sums up a lot of it. : Dreagon
      • Army surplus stores are great things. You can get useful stuff on the cheap. : slax0r
    • lol! : zeke
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      Being patriotic doesn't equal racism or being belligerant. It does in the south! : anon@syr.edu
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        Have you lived in the South? : Degenerate
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          Been to Georgia. Anything outside atlanta = lots of ignorant people. : anon@syr.edu
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            hahaha. Thats a pretty ignorant thing to say. : Degenerate
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              Well i said 'lots of ignorant people', i didn't say all. You'll find more confederate flag waving whore... : anon@syr.edu
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                I bet there are just as many ignorant people in any state you pick. Just because they dont have a confed... : Degenerate
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                  Eh, whatever, i'm sure alabama is as tolerant as massachusetts. : anon@syr.edu
                  • I've lived in GA, TX and CA over the last 8 years and I assure you its the same everywhere. : Degenerate
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        That sounds mighty racist to me... : Vantage
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          Elaborate. : anon@syr.edu
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            You're making a negative generalization based on cultural group and geographic location. What if you ha... : Vantage
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              You're making a negative generalization based on cultural group No, elaborate why me pointing out the... : anon@syr.edu
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                And actually, i didn't even say all southerners, just the 'patriotic' ones : anon@syr.edu
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                  Whereas patriotic northerners are NOT belligerent and racist? You make sweeping generalizations about h... : Vantage
                  • Anyways, off to first post. : Vantage
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                No, you made the broad negative generalization that southern americans who are patriotic are also bellig... : Vantage
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                  Just because they have the same colour of skin as you doesn't mean it's ok to be racist towards them. ... : anon@syr.edu
                  • No. Saying "all british people are racist" is a racist statement, even if you are an american of britis... : Vantage
  • You have some strange ideas rattling around that noggin of yours. : x-eyd|mary
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  Not in BC. Americans act as though they hate us, why should be? Fuck em Boo'ing our anthem at that ho... : blitzkreig
  • Give me a break, most Americans know it like it is, Canadians are americans anyways. As for the flag ... : scharfschuetze
• those government buildings are very likely US Consulates or the Embassy in Ottawa... also trade organiz... : scharfschuetze

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  Oh yeah, and link: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-935180.html : anon@syr.edu
  • it'll be interesting to see Microsoft try to fight the mod chip market. They'll see that they can't mon... : the archvile
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  Not really a killer app. Neat, but DC can play DIVX and you don't see anyone going ape shit just to spen... : geedeck
  • If DC could play DivX 5.02 I would buy one : Entity
  • That's because everyone that cared about DC's hacks like that already bought one :) : Portax
  • no it can't, at least not well. : Furious George

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  i love the disemeberment plan. : emocore
  • doh, dismemberment : emocore
• Sexpansion Pack is a huge mark for them : geedeck

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  they dont deserve to go to japan : {Venger}
  • HI VENGER : gegtik
• That'll larn 'em! : Bakelite
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  oh well! It was a great game. Argentina, again, controlled the ball as with all of their games. Yet, Swe... : mofo
  • Argentina put a lot of effort in this game. Many close calls in the last few minutes. In my opinion, if : dodob
• hmm, favorite to win by far.. and there gone... SENEGAL OWNS J00 : hackest
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  man, u have no idea how the brazilians (at least the most of) are happy. : melancoholicz
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    In the pub in the UK this morning the England result got a small ripple of applause; job done. When the... : Bakelite
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      Argentina vs England you mean, right? Theres that "Malvinas War" back in 80's, the "mano of Dios" (Go... : melancoholicz
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        '86... the red card to Beckham after Simeone simulated a foul in '98... History? Those two hate each oth... : [Zoesch^2]
        • true... its amazing how many countries hate Argentina (in the soccer field) ;) : melancoholicz

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  Only if its the Starcraft finals. : Degenerate
  • kekekekekekekeke : mr brown
• I guess it depends on how they do against Portugal. : the archvile

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  7:30 I think : the archvile
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    confirmed, 7:30 EDT. http://worldcup.espnsoccernet.com/fixtures?lang=us : the archvile
    • cool. thanks : Degenerate
• 6:30AM? : Bakelite
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  I think 20% of the soccer following US work force will lose their jobs watching the World Cup this year. : laidback
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    which is 0.0000002% of the entire population anyway since nobody watches soccer on a regular basis here.... : laidback
    • I dont usually watch but I want to watch at least one game from the World Cup. The game against Poland s... : Degenerate
    • too bad.. IMO, USA has the structure/organization that lacks to Brazil. If they (US Team) want, they ... : melancoholicz
  • real fans watch it in Spanish, even if they don't understand it. : the archvile

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• And your dog ate your homework? : ashkie
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  get to work sooner rather than later! : teh snail
  • you should probably touch base with someone...let them know you'll be a little late. : FlyingButtPliers
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  "You believe that you are special, Mr. Anderson. That the rules do not apply to you." : slax0r
  • I like this post. : awoihjaweohr

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  do they still have MST3K Mitchell? : the archvile
  • yes I ordered from them last week. :) : Degenerate
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    That reminds me I must order those fine DVDs ! Problem is with ordering things online, I usually order ... : zerologik
    • They have free shipping and the episodes are all $13-15. : Degenerate
• Of course when the package arrives it says its from DDD. The old lady who delivers my mail probably th... : Degenerate

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• Your comment was un-american! : anon@syr.edu
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  I agree that if you're a dumbass nobody should have to pay you for being one, however the *majority* of ... : Sludgehead
  • Hell, Fred Flinstone told everyone to smoke one! My film-class instructor in college brought in a tap... : jimmy-buffett

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  Whats the problem? Will your next CPU be made by Cyrix? : Degenerate
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    Cyrix, the processor of champs! : jerkinisnice
    • Cyrix, the processor you can cook dinner on! : Degenerate
    • The processor of Chumps you mean... : Vantage
  • No he uses a Mac : Crimsonbeak

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• GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! : Zillax0rz
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  THEY MISSED IT! HAHAHAHA : [Zoesch^2]
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    Fuck crespo scored... well they're out of the competition anyway : [Zoesch^2]
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      Hahahaha, too quick to post! : Zillax0rz
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        ARGENTIA IS OUT! HAHAHAHA! : [Zoesch^2]
        • OWNED BY SWEDEN!! : Tissen
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          You're loving it aren't ya?! :} : moz
          • Abso-fucking-lutely, some of my best friends are Argentineans, I lived there even for a year, but I hate... : [Zoesch^2]
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          god damn stupid argentinians :( : mad-d00d
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            psst! Cuando se ha visto un colombiano apoyando a Argentina :D : [Zoesch^2]
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              ;( i rather them than those english bastards :( i'm all for any non-european taking the cup. : mad-d00d
              • No way! Sweden vs Denmark in the finals!! =) : Tissen
• * S E N E G A L ' D * : hackest

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• Hey, dusso.com ;) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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  beautiful picture on desktop :) link? : urbansling
  • http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3844457 : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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  http://scott.trigeek.net/pics/desktop0612.jpg : ninjatimmy
  • very nice! wallpaper available somewhere? : skeetstah
• http://matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie/~rwc/anime/desktop01.jpg Sorry, no porn, but Kenshin kicks ass : lord of tError
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  http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/060602/desktop1232.JPG I know it looks like poo, but it's ... : kueay
  • kind of nice actually : scharfschuetze
• http://members.shaw.ca/macgyv3r/desktop3.jpg : MacGyver
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  http://www.alphalink.com.au/~suchrem/files/desktop.jpg : twids-
  • Blue penii :o : Nighteyes
• kinda messy http://www.slax0r.org/files/desktop.jpg : slax0r
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  http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jocelynm/desktop.jpg My brother took the background image. I had found t... : zerologik
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    That photo rocks! Any chance of the original file? : nudel
    • Yep! http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jocelynm/files/purpleforest1024.jpg : zerologik
• y dual-monitor work desktop(s) (reduced image else it'd be hoooge): http://www.b0rk.co.uk/gfx/columns/pi... : nudel
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  http://www.shack1.netfirms.com/JOEK.jpg : Phil
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    I thought the ZoneAlarm meter went horizontally. : the archvile
    • I have the Limited Edition l337 h4x0r Model. : Phil
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  http://www.overburn.ca/shackdata/background.jpg : The_Janitor
  • I like this a lot, is that linux or just some crazy desktop manipulator like litestep or something? : [karma]
• http://jjlaw232.tripod.com/desktop.jpg : jjlaw
• http://www.deviantart.com/view.php?id=414684 : [karma]
• anyone have any cool X-men or Thundercats wallpapers? no cartoon please, Vantage : mr brown
• http://home.sport.rr.com/emocore/background.jpg : emocore

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• www.ebgames.com is where i buy from : emocore

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• http://www.shack1.netfirms.com/martydog.jpg : Phil
• http://www.beatdownsquad.com/images/old%20images/images/news/gore2.gif http://www.beatdownsquad.c... : c0bra

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  are you running IIS? That sounds like the root folder for an HTTP service, though I don't think it's Ap... : the archvile
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    whats ISS? : evil-cow
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      IIS = Internet Information Server, a webserver built into winXP pro (and possibly other versions) open ... : moshman
      • It's for all version of Windows NT up. : c0bra
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        HTTP 500 Internal Server Error. : evil-cow
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          Try FTP as well. IIS can run Web and/or FTP. So long as you shut down the IIS service you should be a... : nudel
          • http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3844625 : evil-cow
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  What OS? : ashkie
  • WinXP : evil-cow
• isn't that some kind of webserver? : mr brown
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  shut down (and uninstall?) IIS. (in the admin menu thing in the control panel). Otherwise, grab a win98... : moshman
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    its been there for a long time. i've rebooted the pc on many occasions. nothing screws up but its just t... : evil-cow
    • yeah, I guess they are part of the IIS service. IIS runs by default on Win XP pro. : moshman
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    its there in the Administrative tools..... how do i remove it/ : evil-cow
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      right click on it and select stop. You should be able to remove it in the add/remove programs thing. If... : moshman
      • http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3844625 : evil-cow
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  That's the directory for IIS or Personal Web Server. Go to add/remove programs and uninstall IIS ... : xocsida
  • i went there but it wasnt there. : evil-cow
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  THanks guys. I got it. It was under Add/Remove Windows Components. IIS. just got rid of it. thanks, its ... : mitthrawnuroudo
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    link to the guidlines. : moshman
    • what? avoiding the PRL? i dont know if i hit it i just switched cause i thought i would. and i thought t... : evil-cow
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    If you've been running IIS without knowing it (and not keeping up on patches), you might want to do a vi... : FlyingButtPliers
    • I have AVG... does a scan everyday at like 4 am when im sleeping. : evil-cow
• coincidentally, I logged onto my home PC to find out someone's installed "inetpub" on it, together with ... : dodob

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  Good article. Sometimes it helps to remind ourselves why we like each other too. :) : Dreagon
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    It's too easy to focus on the bad, isn't it? : x-eyd|mary
    • Drama is entertaining, and the negetive is drama. :/ : Dreagon
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  interesting how he equates UK to Europe : BadRespawn
  • who is he supposed to equate it with? : Dreagon

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  If only they would add that to a video game :) Image that in an RPG : ashkie
  • give it a couple of more years. Once DX 8.1 becomes the older cards of the average consumer, you will se... : Dreagon
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  Do you think I would see the same difference if I moved to that from my Voodoo2? ;-( : Ryno
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    All signs point to YES : ashkie
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      hehe. Yeah, I know. I'm waiting for the NV30 or R300. \m/ : Ryno
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        my wife still has a Voodoo2 on her machine. Maybe if she is very good I will put the old Voodoo5 in for ... : Dreagon
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          a little slap and tickle... : ashkie
          • and cooking me a big dinner too. :) : Dreagon
        • Then you can send me your old Voodoo2 so I can do SLI. ;) : Ryno

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  I think you can license something from MapQuest : Phearsome
  • thatnks, i was look at that site actually.. it is free ! : Spang

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• check Supine's profile; he posted it. : the archvile
• http://users3.ev1.net/~rootstudio/stuff/piratekitty02.JPG : ashkie

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• yeah, now in cstrike when i get killed it stutters like a bitch and the refresh rates and shit are al... : bongsmith
• jesus christ that's stupid. why weaken older cards with the latest drivers? anybody know what the bes... : king_darius
• I haven't noticed any slowdowns with the new Dets, and I'm on a GF3 Ti 500. GTA3 is quite smooth. : V0lk
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  That is a stupid article anyway...you are NOT your fucking benchmark score. : V0lk
  • yes I am :( and I get 5 3dmarks :( :( : klerck
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    Why by an expensive nvidia video card if not for the performance? Benchmarks are simply one way to meas... : lazarusb
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      sure, "performance" is fine...but do you build a machine to run games or run benchmarks? : V0lk
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        to run games of course, stop with the dumb questions/answers. I was saying my card runs quite a bit slo... : moshman
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          Yes, I own a GF3 Ti 500...I put on the new drivers, and haven't had any problems and have not noticed an... : V0lk
          • Well, my original post was certainly aimed at gaming. I think we are talking past eachother here :) sorr... : moshman
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            he didn't mention 3dmark, and 20-30 fps loss in Q3A is a major difference and definitely affects things ... : goatsecxy
            • which I do, why else would I have gotten a gf3 ti500 when they came out :) : moshman
  • well, it mentions the same problems I have been having. So it ain't stupid for me. I thought I was the ... : moshman
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    Hello? He lost 20-30 fps in Quake 3, that could be the difference between a game stuttering or runing OK : [Zoesch^2]
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      OR, with a GF3, he could've lost from 150 fps down to 130fps...the game would hardly "stutter". : V0lk
      • well, in a large firefight (with say 10 ppl on screen, which happens a lot in large CTF and RA3 games) i... : moshman
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  I have a 4400 and GTA3 runs smoother for me now. : sistergrim
  • yeah, seems that GF4s benefit from this and GF3s and before are not liking it too much. : moshman

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• beginning? Hasn't rambus been failing ever since it was released? : slax0r
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  that's a shortage of PC1066 ram, that's like saying a shortage of DDR400 is a sign that Micron is going ... : goatsecxy
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    yeah, but Intel is starting to phase out Rambus, and there are those reports that they aren't going to m... : the archvile
    • yeah, they aren't, even Intel can't push a technology if the ram companies don't want to make it. : goatsecxy

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• just got home from work. Glad to be here! : kingfish
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  http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3840686 : Degenerate
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    Heh..oops. I realized that it as quiting time right after I posted. Sorry you had to fight the figh... : xocsida
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      Dont worry. I'll return the favor somehow. :) : Degenerate
      • Uh Oh. :) : xocsida

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• I thought people were complaining about the inaccuracy of weapons. Spefically, the spread on the mosin. : slax0r
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  Needs more SMG's, Rifles and Pistols. : ashkie
  • I really wouldn't mind seeing a mission pack with some more weapons and another storyline. Building upo... : the archvile
• They dropped the ball on the cowbell issue. : gegtik

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  i have the old one /w the guy and the AAA battery somewhere around here : kenmis
  • Classic Family Funtime Video : xakmalice
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  Seriously? : lord of tError
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    yeah I want to freak out some of my friends. : wykd
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      ...uh huh : Nighteyes
      • ok it turns me on..... : wykd
• Something I will never hope to see... : drucifer
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  I want a smiley to represent puking. A combination of :O and :X : laidback
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    :O~~~{| covers that I think : [Zoesch^2]
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      ;O~~~~~ : gegtik
      • revised: ;()~~~~~~~ : gegtik
    • Excellent work, my friend.. excellent work. : laidback

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• Not even if you have the best candy! : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
• *Billy Ocean'd* : Tissen
• DUDE! : moshman
• HEY!! HEY!! YOU!! YOU!! .. GET INTO MY CAR !! WHO ME?! YES YOU!! : uberp00
• Hey McCloud, get offa my ewe! : gegtik

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  Um.. well it depends on what you mean by "work". I'm sure we'll see mozilla based things in the super po... : mr. winky
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    IE is available for WinCE ;) : dodob
    • And PocketIE sucks major MAJOR MAJOR ass :( : [Zoesch^2]
• except that mozilla does work in the real world : BadRespawn
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  Mozilla doesn't compare itself to communism. Whoever made that ad was either trolling or stupid, but it ... : jidar
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    it's a pennystock ad. : the archvile
    • thank you captain obv.. yeah.. : jidar
  • Hello, sense of humor? I think you missed a jidar! : [Zoesch^2]

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• Sames :| : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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  I'm gaggin' to see the performance of these much hyped bots. : dissectional
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    I need a game I can jump in, shoot some people, see some stats and jump out. CZ looks to fit the bill wi... : dodob
    • Global Ops. : Nighteyes
  • maybe they all wallhack like the SoF2 enemy AI. Either that or they always rush the opposing base, bunn... : the archvile

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• i am planning on picking one of those up as well, glad to hear that it works well... i never heard that ... : crotchbat
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  it says it has it on the box, but then doesnt? maybe yours is defective? : sexninja!!!!
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    i think he means it's clearly stated on the package that it doesn't have rumble. i think. : king_darius
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      And that IGN said it did, but it doesn't. IGN lied to everyone. : Portax
      • of course, it also could have had rumble several months ago, but they found that it killed the batteries... : klerck
    • oh well that thing runs on batteries id imagine, and rumble feature would prolly suck em dry anyway :... : sexninja!!!!
• No rumble because it can't recieve...only transmit. : Homard
• Personally, I hate rumble features. I may pick one up. : Magitek
• read that ign review you posted (http://gear.ign.com/articles/361/361933p1.html ). oh man does it sou... : Kiwi Man
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  I don't know why people 'round these parts hate IGN but blow their loads all over Gamespot's ugly mug. ... : Homard
  • I played that game at a friends. God its horrible! cant hit a damn thing with the gun. : suicidemachine
• that's okay, the motor would eat up the controller's battery charge in no time. : the archvile