Possible AMD Clawhammer Benches

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  Pentium 4's run on a 100mhz bus that's quad pumped. Rambus based P-4s are close, but faster yet. AMD bus... : Downforce
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    eople who think VIA/AMD systems aren't stable are about as retarded as a 8 yr old child. I have a AMD/VI... : drkangel
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      people who think VIA chipsets are worth bothering with when the potential hassles they CAN bring are so ... : Toraz Chryx
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        people who think things never change and that companies can't improve need to buy a clue. : goatsecxy
        • I concur. : drkangel

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  Of course this is just fanboy fodder - the hammer CPUs could be as far as 9mos away or could be out as e... : rosewood
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    "As for the legitamacy of these numbers, who the hell knows" ...I found the fact that XP recognized i : Sludgehead
    • That name is retrieved from the cpu using the CPUID instruction just like with any other modern PC cpu. : Mastaba
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  I wanna see a top of the line P4 run 64bit code! Oh wait, it can't. Let's see the Intel 64bit offering ... : Sludgehead
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    How much 64bit code do you think you're going to be running when the Hammer comes out? You might have ... : AscorSix
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      The INQ article goes to say that if 64bit computing under the hands of AMD reaches the sub $1000 and sub... : rosewood
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        I'm not bashing on 64bit conversion, its great. Its also nice that AMD is building of the x86 so that ... : AscorSix
        • Yeah, by then they will have faster 64-bit processors and the early adopters won't be able to compete wi... : MarksmanX
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          I think the fact that AMD sold their sould in testimonial form to Microsoft and now there is Hammer opti... : rosewood
          • Its not exactly that easy. : Chicks Dig Me
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            So what's the timeframe that you predict that this will happen? I would assume it would be over one year... : MarksmanX
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              GRRRR.. for God's sake, let's not say "64 bit OS", let's say "Clawhammer OS".. there have already bee... : freshview
              • Sorry about that ;) : MarksmanX
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                how about first 64bit x86 OS? : johnny rotten
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                  You're just trying to make me cry..... :'( : freshview
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                    Technically I'm right, dont be so picky! :) Hell, its the same way NT was originally marketed. : johnny rotten
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                      oh, you're right. That name works fine.. but a 64 bit X86 processor makes me want to cry.... :-( : freshview
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                        architecture elititsm is so 90's.... ;) : johnny rotten
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                          GAAAH FOUR REGISTERS is JUST NOT ENOUGH... GOD DAMN IT INTEL... grrr.. :-( Ah well, I guess ... : freshview
                          • x86-64 = +8 GPRs over ia32. : yakz
                          • it shouldn't. There are 12 "general" GPRs, RAX, RBX, RCX, RDX, R8-R15 (there is also of course RBP, RDI,... : yakz
                • ALready there, there's been a 64 bit patch for the linux kernel since god knows when, there's already a ... : [Zoesch^2]
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              MS has already gotten a hammer running on a 64-bit version of XP : goatsecxy
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                Won't it take a year atleast for testing? : MarksmanX
                • nah. 6-9 months of dedicated testing. Then the consumer does the rest. ;) : johnny rotten
              • yeah but I'm going to take a wait and see attitude to how MS supports their x86 64 bit version of XP bef... : johnny rotten
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      I'd bet a finger carmack will compile a doom 64 bit binary, your jaw will drop when you see how many bo... : abrasion
      • I will hold you to that, sir. : r_picmip 5
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    Why would the top of the line p4 need to run 64 bit? Thats what the itanium is for. : Chicks Dig Me
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      Almost everything you're going to bench with is still 32bit code, I'm not too concerned with 64bit pre... : AscorSix
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        So damn true. It will take YEARS before 64-bit optimized applications take root. But early adopters are... : MarksmanX
        • Yup. The 386 was the first fully 32 bit intel processer. Windows NT was the first fully 32 bit OS. Th... : johnny rotten
  • If you read the article you would see this architecture is designed as a server chip from the DEC Alpha ... : rosewood

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  I just hope AMD doesn't go broke from this move to the 64-bit market. Lastthing I want to do is pay $12... : MarksmanX
  • I doubt it will happen.. I predcit the clawhammer will be faster for both 32 and 64 bit code. (HA I SAID... : freshview
  • why would they? Make no mistake Clawhammer will live and die by its competitiveness as an IA32 chip. A... : johnny rotten
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  If I get more performance for my dollar I don't care how they do it. : Fred Garvin
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    That's 'cause you're not a programmer. :-D : freshview
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      This is true, but if they could make it mostly transparent on your end would you care how they did it? : Fred Garvin
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        Yes, because, honestly, I think the Itanium will have much better performance for 64 bit Itanium Optimiz : freshview
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          Except that the itanium even when running programs compiled for VLIW is not performing as well as hoped.... : johnny rotten
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            The problem there is that the compiler for the Itanium is a real monster of a computer science challenge : freshview
            • a good while. heh. It has taken YEARS to develop decent compilers for MIPS/PA-RISC/SPARC/etc., and the E... : yakz
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          Software rasterizer!?!?! I still want a voxel accelerator. It would be cool to have T&L and voxel accele... : Fred Garvin
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            I can make voxels in my software rasterizer. I can't make voxels in pixel shaders :-( yet >:-) : freshview
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              that would be a strange use of the fragment shader(s). You'd be better off describing terrain as a high-... : yakz
              • The voxels would not be for terrain. : freshview
          • voxel technology is dead. Let it go... :) : johnny rotten
        • I don't agree with you in the slightest. For one thing, it will be virtually impossible to optimize Itan... : yakz
    • I'm a programmer, but also a pragmatist! : Vorlonesque
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  (-1) Clever Troll Way to attack x86, welcome back to 1998. Amd already has a lot more support with M... : rosewood
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    Umm. Way to not address my argument at all. I don't care how much support AMD has, of course they : freshview
    • Intel didn't have the clout or resources to pull an Itanium either, that's why they crosslicenced with H... : [Zoesch^2]
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  if the 32/64 bit hybrid chip is such a flawed idea, why is Intel adding the same hooks (based of the sam... : BulletPro
  • because the clawhammer is going to destroy the intel offerings. Intel just has to find a way to compe... : freshview
• Are you schizophrenic? : indeego
• You don't seem to know what you're talking about. This isn't a flame/troll/etc., you just seem misinform... : yakz
• Whoah, thanks for proving me that you're always talking out of your ass. I'm truly sorry if someone t... : [Zoesch^2]

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• well, the chances of it running at AGP 8x are very slim to none. As far as I know the only available 8x ... : yakz
• I doubt very much AGP 8X will make a difference to Quake3 scores. All the textures for Q3 fit onto the v... : koder

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  the sample chips that AMD has been giving out are locked at 800mhz to prevent people benchmarking them a... : goatsecxy
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    How do you know this? : highlow
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      Been all over the tech pages for days. : abrasion
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        Like? : highlow
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          I think it was mentioned on both HardOCP and Anandtech. I also thought I read on Anandtech that the 8... : UtilityMaximizer
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            that's 64-bit processing for ya. can't wait for clawhammer to come out. finally, an affordable 64-bit ... : kruel
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              lol, those Quake3 benches have absolutely nothing to do with ClawHammers 64 bit instruction support what... : johnny rotten
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                iirc, 32bit applications on the hammer could benifit in that if the OS or other processes benefit from 6... : rosewood
                • What a convuluted and utterly jibberish of words you have stated. Do you pride yourself in your fals... : highlow

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  But from what everyone said this is a massivly underclocked 800 : Chicks Dig Me
  • Borked comment : Chicks Dig Me

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• Yeah, It'd be cool to not have to run a fucking fan on my pc anymore. : highlow
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  well of course its cool.. its only running at 800Mhz. : Shadowdane
  • Some 800mhz Procs run pretty damn hot And running cool from AMD is something most people think is str... : rosewood

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• underclocking it - its pretty easy - especially if they have one of the early P4s they sent out to teste... : rosewood

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• no, it's NOT a typo. AMD is nowhere near ready to release hammer chips so the test units have been locke... : goatsecxy
• they locked their chips @ 800 so that if someone benchmarked them, true performance measures could not b... : rosewood

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• wrong replied? : SatansFist