DOOM3 TGAs

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• and I'm sure he knows all the intricacies to the Doom3 engine... : timmie
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  if i was doing one (which i probably wont because nvidia says they're gonna put one out pretty soon) i ... : the illuminati
  • I imagine that if an engine could automatically make a low poly model (what people seem to be complainin... : nudel
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  appears? its a fact, its been stated in an interview... and wheres your source? surely, you arent ref... : Unleashed
  • I might have misread some of that. I read it as "since he's not using LOD..." while he was saying more a... : Sebastian Sylvan

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  I think I read somewhere that most of the models are about 5000 polys. In Quake3 I think they were about... : koder
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    but what's the "virtual polycount" (for want of a better term) due to all the bumpmapping the engine is ... : Toraz Chryx
    • hmm, methinks 'perceived polycount' is possibly a better term. : Toraz Chryx
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      well the original models were 250,000 polys so I guess that is the "virtual polycount" : koder
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        1500ish, look at the right shoulder of the handy smurf dude, heck, look at the left shoulder, super bloc... : fishbowlman
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          the 'low poly' models are in the 4-5K mark. Q3 used 750-1100K polies per model. You can still some 'ha... : johnny rotten
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            I don't konw what game/screenshots you are looking at, but the models in the doom3 screens are not 5k or... : fishbowlman
            • johnny rotten is right : jokerman
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        I heard the original models were over 1,000,000 polys : kill9
        • I doubt that high, but the polycount # for the original models is really of no concern, except it, and i... : fishbowlman
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          I heard the original models were over 1,000,000 polys base mesh most likely; the source where the... : emacs
          • Correct. In my experience, the material on a 3D surface is more important to making it look good than t... : Ben Barker
        • They're more like 500,000 IIRC... But then they're dropped down considerably for the game. : SatansFist
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          the original models are very high polycount, I've read (heard?) 1 million too but that might not be exac... : pillzer
          • correction: Gamespot article says 100K "The original models created for the monsters are made up of mo... : pillzer
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  150 000 for a scene, 5000 for a monster. : Sebastian Sylvan
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    where did you hear its 150,000 for a scene? : koder
    • John Carmack, in a slashdot post. : Sebastian Sylvan
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      Carmack himself said they're targeting approx. up to 150k for a scene. He said something along these li... : BNA!
      • Sorry, I should've read the whole thread before posting. : BNA!
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    I think you mean 150,000 for a monster before "dropping it down with their special tool" to 5,000 it ... : abrasion
    • hmmm not really... It might be a lot to ask from a Doom3 style engine, but 150,000 polys in a scen : freshview
    • http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=27412&cid=2951313 : Sebastian Sylvan

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  Yep. My next major upgrade is going to be about the time DOOM3 hits. I figure I've got another six mont... : RatBastard
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    What are you looking at getting? I'm "topsy turvy" on getting a ti 4200 with all this new shit comi... : abrasion
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      I haven't thought too much about it yet. I recently got a GeForce4 Ti 4400, but othe rthan that, I;ve b... : RatBastard
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        I think anything over 1gb would be instane (in my opinion) - I'd GUESS with Windows XP consuming a full ... : abrasion
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          * strokes gigabyte of PC2700 * This stuff should hopefully transfer straight over to a Clawhammer sys... : Toraz Chryx
          • *looks at 1.1ghz amd t-bird 768megs PC133 ram.. you'll make a good linux box..* *eye's a clawhammer.... : locobastard

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• No. But she sure had nice curved surfaces! : RatBastard
• eleventy billion : yellow
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  I believe, but dont quote me on this, it was in the ballpark range of 50000. : johnny rotten
  • I have on good authority it was eleventy billion. : abrasion

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• Yeah but in order to run that much detail, they have to skimp on others... : SatansFist
• Remember that the lighting in pictures, doesn't equal the lighting in live footage. A still shot can be... : darkblade
• you are right that the lighting is incorrect. unfortunately, correct global illumination is an EXTREMELY... : God_Virus
• Actually, if I recall the lighting scene was to show shit off and it was set to "fullbright" / 255 light... : abrasion
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  with one light, you get black shadows, if you have two in the room then their more like 50% each. it blo... : the illuminati
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    no, you wouldn't get jet black shadows unless you were on a flat surface in the middle of space, otherwi... : fishbowlman
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      You are thinking of radiosity. DOOM III doesn't do radiosity. In a room with more than 2 lights, then yo... : Mastaba
      • I mean in a room with 2 or more lights you may see non-black shadows. : Mastaba

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• It's actually more like 5. You need the texture, bump, diffuse and some others... it was in a gamespy in... : SatansFist
• According to this interview, its five http://www.gamespy.com/e32002/pc/id3/index3.shtml : Serpico74
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  They said 5 but I'm not sure what those five textures would be. Color map Bump map (Normal map) Sp... : Sebastian Sylvan
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    i'm thinking the bump map si made from two sources, a detail bump map done by an artist or from another ... : the illuminati
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      Doesn't make sense to count the projection texture. If so he could just say they're using nine textures ... : Sebastian Sylvan
      • i know it doenst really make sence, but thats the only thing i can think of with 5 textures. : the illuminati
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      What are each of these textures looking like and in what format? Detailed bump - Is that the same c... : jhof
      • detail bump - woudl be bumps that are easier to do in photoshop then actually model in. either they are... : the illuminati
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        i think it goes more like this: 1. diffuse map 2. specular map 3. bump map 4. gloss map 5. opacit... : Mastaba
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          whats the diff between gloss and spec? environment map stuff? i dunno, opacity gets very hard when your ... : the illuminati
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            gloss map determines amount of specularity per texel, specular map determines color of specular reflecti... : Mastaba
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              why woudlnt color be determined by the light color? : the illuminati
              • Some objects in the real world selectively filter the specular light (or even reflect different waveleng... : Mastaba
• 5 textures actually. Read the last part of the gamespy article : Hamfucker

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• email him then : vigilante
• hahaha. excellent. : vodor
• * HEAD EXPLODES * : Maddog_Delphi97
• I bet that's how he talks dirty to his wife Anna.. "want me to overflow your main pipeline, baby?" : Maddog_Delphi97
• Hehe.. I hate these fake smarty-man posts. Because for a few seconds I think you know what you're talkin... : Sebastian Sylvan

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• haha Comedy MOLD !! : booyaka

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  in some interview (id part3 on gamespy i think) they say that will never be public or to expect much els... : Aph3x
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    subsequent to that interview the shaky cam footage was released. Then one of the ID guys got it removed ... : koder
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      "said that the 11 min footage would be released officially soon." Todd Hollenshead did ask several site... : pillzer
      • Yes, can you? : rorshack
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        well I thought it was part of the email he sent out to the websites asking for it to be pulled. I can't ... : koder
        • It wasn't part of Hollenheads email. The website who had the leaked vid, -hoped- they would get an ... : Novad
    • yeh i know i saw the leaked vid pretty much straight away, i meant in referral to a proper video of the ... : Aph3x

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• difficult to tell but I don't think they do. : koder

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• fill rate, obviously. : [surrender]

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  the piss stains on the floor are nice too - they add even more of a "I don't want to step in there" feel... : bbq gibs
  • haha yeh i didnt look at it as urine before, didnt really notice looked more like strained tiles, but ph... : Aph3x
  • oh yeah.. in addition, Trent should add some nasty sticky footstep sounds when you walk over that piss s... : bbq gibs

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  You aren't Steve Jobs are you? : Toraz Chryx
  • lol *stevejob'd* : pillzer

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• a no-holds-barred all-weapons-included 5-levels-playable demo that will run on my comp with highest sett... : Fraxxxi
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  There was a cam released showing the 11min presentation but I guess it was pulled, lucky me that I downl... : sanchez-
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    Yeah the 11 shakycam vid is pretty goddamn good... : SatansFist
    • Better than nothing. : sanchez-
    • Ya I was VERY impressed with that long video, EVEN with the shaky cam : buckshack

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• The first room in Silent Hill 2 had some great high-poly urinals! : nudel

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• why would you think that? They're zombies, they are probably going to be doing their zombie thing all ov... : jidar

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• r o f l. : Aph3x
• I've heard of this Duke Nukem Forever, but I believe it doesnt exist. : rndm

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• yeah if thats medium and thats what i can pull on a new video card, i'm happy : Silent1
• the demo was running in medium quality... i don't think these shots were taken while that particular dem... : jvox

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• Linkage? : Ryno

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• ou = teh suck : sweat