Valve vs Hackers : Round1

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  Don't forget that it still uses the Q3A Engine. Raven most likely gets the fix updates to the engine... : h0rus
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    So you're telling me Q3 is secure now? heh. : Topaz
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      A helluva lot more then Hl is. : anonsanonomous
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        not... I've seen a hell of alot of evidence that bot play is quite prevalent in q3 engine games at this ... : Q-ball
        • Can you provide that evidence? If not, I have no reason to believe you. : anonsanonomous

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  would you bet $1000 on it? : snuff
  • Yes. : anonsanonomous

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  All Seeing Eye. : Zillax0rz
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    where can i get this? : ventro
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      http://www.udpsoft.com/eye : lord of tError
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        Same people that made Qizmo : lord of tError
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          quiznos toasted subs?!@!! : Do_Or_Die
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            Whats that? : lord of tError
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              Like Subway sandwiches but they toast them after making them so you get a hot sandwich. Mmm... : Dechter
              • do they still sell the turkey ceasar one? If so, ask them for parmesean bread instead of "white or whea... : JGene
            • Mmmm... I should have my way with one after work! : iamgoat
        • woa, really? /me loves ase a little bit more! : rorshack
• The internal browser. : snuff

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• I don't think it blocks ips. : Mugsy
• from the screenshot (linked in the story), it looks like every player has a unique id. : jet-poop
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  It blocks you're WON id, which is required to play online. Thus making it impossible to play on servers ... : phreakin911
  • 99.9%? its 100% of all net facing HL servers. Lan servers dont talk to WON for obvious reasons, but what... : Beady

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  the only problem is the hacks do it for free, in thier free time, and have a basicly unlimited budget/ti... : kenmis
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    Wondering, just how many people are writing these cheat programs. dozen, tens of dozens, 500 more? Can s... : Chiller
    • Just my opinion, but most gamers are programming experts. With OGC as far as I know, that actually inter... : phreakin911

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• this is valve - that feature should be out by 2004 : chicken_feed
• that still stops a great number of people. Most cheaters are newbies who have no clue anyway. : ovrlrd
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  yeah that was my first question too. looks like it's catching those as well so far. : Steve Gibson
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    You guys sure do know a lot about these cheats.... I didn't know there was sourcecode available let alo... : dorker
    • The ogc sourcecode is readily available. But its not like it would only detect ogc 8.1.4 of a certain fl... : Mugsy
  • YOU = SCRIPT KIDDIE. : h0rus
• Out of 65,000 people, I can live with 10 cheaters that I'll probably never see on public servers. : snuff

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  You are right, sir. I recall a forum thread about cheating in CS, and the main argument from the lam... : h0rus
  • yeah, pretty damn wretched, huh? That's almost as bad as "I have to cheat... because everyone else is ch... : unmaker

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• Whats already hacked? : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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  Bullshit. Provide proof before making such claims. : h0rus
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    lol yeah i'm going to post proof here so everyone can exploit. Good thinking. : str8upkiller
    • A Screenshot showing somebody exploiting OGC on a Secure Server, would work. : h0rus

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  15 years old? wtf r u on? HL came out in 98 or 99... : ventro
  • maybe he's adding versions and betas count for exponentials? : indeego
  • so maybe it was a slight overstatement. HL came out like spring of 98 I think. CS came out in 2000 or so... : BulletPro
• Hey Marge! They have cheat protection in Counter-Strike now!" : trdpatrick
• the'r working on it all the time. : BadRespawn

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  But they never released the anti-cheat tech until now. : Hugh G Wrecksion
  • so you're calling Steve Gibson a liar, you saying there was nothing to hack, that's not what he said. NU : TERATOGEN

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  Not Hackers. But moronic Script Kiddies. : h0rus
  • Correct, I hate when people label script kiddies as hackers. : iamgoat

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• NOT TEH TUBGIRL!1111 : scion
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  gotta ask... tubgirl? : loco3kgt
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    yeah, what is tubgirl? : edward
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      Trust me you dont want to know. I thought I was able to stomach most pictures. Boy I was able to stomach... : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
      • Ehh, that could be worse, she could be 300+ lbs and like that............ Unknown russian soldier vid... : UTSD3DSUCKS
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    very sexy picture just go to google image search and search for reese witherspoon and make sure the cont... : eon_
    • LOL : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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      oh my god. that is insane. tub girl is bad news : twoAM
      • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
      • yeah, I'll bet...bleh : JGene

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• Its doing fucking well so far. : ---D1cKy-Mo3---

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  Attacking yourself is not nice >:( : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
  • LOL!! A/S/L? OMFG!!! : Fred Garvin

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  yes tens of thousands of people : disembodied potato
  • that's absolutely fucking depressing : multipurpose
• Many many more people play CS than all other fps's combined. : Mugsy

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  But the thing is that now Valve have a way to respond in real time. OK, someone figures out a chea... : andymwise
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    basically now, the only way to use hacks if you made them yourself and didn't give them to anyone, not e... : ovrlrd
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      AND REPEAT OFFENDERS WILL BE BANNED FROM ALL PROTECTED SERVERS!!!!!!!! NICE! : Tommie-X
      • Yep. Your IP gets labeled as being a cheater too :D : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
• Sure if someone if dedicated enough, but eventually it will be more hassel than its worth and the cheate... : UTSD3DSUCKS

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• ppl still ask this question? ;) : Bori=Q=a

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  well, 95% of servers are "secure" since that's the default. so i wouldnt worry too much about it. : Steve Gibson
  • right-e-o : mistamo

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• haha, that was probably him testing to see if it worked... : male/grunt

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  Since I started playing again. CS has been cheat free. And the amount of so called High scores has been ... : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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    sorry to birdwalk from the subject a little bit but i recently tried the newest version of CS and I woul... : ease_one
    • im trying to imagine you doing that, and i cant stop laughing. : Morgin
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      I think he might not mean "realistic" per se. I think he might be refering to the reduction of seemingl... : unmaker
      • Thank you :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
    • I wasnt talk about the realism in the game. I meant as in the realism of the way people are playing now ... : ---D1cKy-Mo3---