SoF2 Hands-On

I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm having alot of fun with this test.

Whoever made the test map, I want to buy you a beer. :D

IMO, this would be the perfect game (in no particular order):

1. Indoor and outdoor maps that look good and don't limit movement too much (like DLFW outdoor - or Op flashpoint but with some detail).
2. I'll sacrifice detailed player models for better terrain.. You can never see all those player details in-game anyways with everybody moving around.
3. good weather effects & sounds that add atmosphere.
4. I want co-op mode because it's fun.
5. 1 shot to the head should kill every time.
6. Grenades that you can cook off before throwing.
7. I want to be able to lay prone and crawl/shoot.
8. Enemies can't see you if they have their back toward you and you are moving silent The MGS2 field of view thing for enemies would be cool.
9. Skins that have decent camoflage appropriate to the terrain.
10. A leg shot makes you limp until you get health or bleed to death.
11. Boobytraps like claymores or proximity-type (trip-wire) thingamagiggys - or remotely detonated bombs/mines. Something so you can tell when there's "zips in the wire" or watch your six when your sniping.
12. Enemies that patrol instead of just standing around until you come by.
13. Indoor map detail that looks realistic and random. I though kingpin did OK with this indoor and out but can't we do better nowadays?
14. Wouldn't also be cool if you ran out of ammo and instead of defaulting to the knife, you would switch to hand-mode and could put a roundhouse kick on someone's ass?
15. I think the number of shots to kill is OK now.. You cant get too realistic and still have fun.. most of the weaps in the game realistically would take you out in one shot no matter where you were hit. Would you rather limp, lay there and try to shoot or just wait till you completely die and re-spawn?

That is all. Sorry for the length.

umm.... whats so great about this game? its like playing quake2 with the machine guns and shotguns. You can take bullets like theres no tomorrow.

Sorry but this game will not replace CS. It just doesn't.....feel right. You can shoot a person 4 times in the head & they still survive, while they shoot you 3 times in the legs and you die. I don't see what all the fuss is about. The only game that I think has the potential to run over CS is New World Order...I'm tired of games based off of older engines...Seems like every game coming out is based on the Quake3 or Half-life engine. NWO's graphics look 10x better than Sof2's graphics, and the gameplay will most definitely be better b/c of that.

I like SOF2 mp a lot. It removes the only problems that I have with CS. Weapon accuracy. The game does suffer a bit in terms of framerates. Worst part about the game is the Q3 netcode and the player warpage you get when theres action.
As much fun as I have had with CS I can't stand the feeling of not being sure of what you are shooting at. Thats a no no for FPS game for me.

I hope this game will kill Counter-Strike.

That whole random generator review is correct. The levels are crap. Prefab'd to death. But thats all you can expect at this stage of computer evolution. It is fun to run a map with the random seed of "DeezNuts" and waste some time. But every single seed will end you with you spawning in a valley, and running along the valley passing a few trees, some stone ruin walls that enemies are mounted behind, and then some buildings that all look the same.

But at least you can go back to that same map by typing DeezNuts back in as the seed.
Picking different terrain (jungle/snow/grass) just means diff prefabs.

So thats whats up on the random map generator. Enjoy.

Quake2 pwns j00!

But what we didn't perhaps realize was that all of the animations, and even corpse clipping, have been greatly improved. Hit a leg and a leg moves. Hit a shoulder and a body spins. There is an enormous amount of animation routines that the game goes through. Once more, when a victim has been dealt with he will, if in the appropriate place, slump on walls, bend on stairs, and curl up in corners, thus dramatically decreasing those instances when half a body would clip straight through a wall. It still kind of happens, just not nearly as much or as bad as it did before.


Hear that? So don't bitch when one body in a thousand clips through a wall - it's still a thousand times better than other games where legs routinely stick out of walls after death.

what happened to all of the gore from the first game? and the realistic damage? the multiplayer test plays like every other realism mod. you shoot them 10 or so times in the chest and they die in a cheesy death animation.

I just hope they fixed the basic problems we have all noted numerous times about the multiplayer test.

When I buy this game on the shelf, it better not be the same silly shadows-sticking through walls cheapness.

As much as we want it to , this wont kill CS. Why? Because most CS players dont have
computers fast enough to run this.

i like soldier of fortune 2

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For those who say SOF2 multi is crap-- no. If you want to see crappy multi, try that "Tactical Ops: Assault on Uranus" UT mod. PLEASE MAKE THE PAIN STOP! And worst of all, I paid $29.99 for that crap. I figured, hey, it's the first mod to go retail since Counter-Strike.. it must be good, right? Uh, wrong.

That crap is going back to EB post haste.

SOF2 multi still isn't as interesting as Global Ops, but it does achieve an excellent balance of fast paced play and semi-realistic strategy. Something I cannot say about Tac Ops for UT anyway..

I certainly hope this game doesn't replace CS. SOF2 is much faster than CS, and even feels like deathmatch. The thing that really bugs me is how goddamn ineffective bullets are in SOF2. It takes, like, 8 shots to kill a guy, and hitting him doesn't even throw off his aim or slow him down like CS. Battles always take place at running speed, and it rarely pays off to stop moving for a carefully aimed shot. The only good way to kill people is with grenades and then it just feels like a fast-paced spam circus a la 'Firearms'. There's obviously room for a game like this, but I doubt it will shut out CS.

I do like SOF2 multi, but I think Global Ops is the best new multiplayer experience this year. Of course the netcode isn't as clean as Q3..

Multiplayer wasnt even considered when the game was being made. So its not supposed to be CS killer or anything. If you like the multi then cool, the little time they had was worth it. If not ...move ont he Single player or another game.

You guys need to remember that the test does not always reflect the final build. Feedback is taken into consideration, things get tweaked and adjusted.

Even though I'm no big fan of cs I don't see this game "killing" it especially with all those players hooked on dust. SOF2 would have to have some amazing mp maps that have longevity, like edge in q2 and dust in cs and pro dm6 in q3. No raven mp map in any of their games has done that for me. That's why I'm a bit nervous they are doing q4.

The random map generator is basically a 2d terrain generator with an option to include pre-made buildings.

So nothing that spectacular anyway.

It's easily the best new multiplayer experience this year.

i dont know about that steve - i really like Jedi Knights 2 a lot more than crappy sof2 mp - i think its too slow, weapons are too weird, and you die too much ... kinda like what i used to think about counterstrike!! ;D

if theres one thing i wish they could change...and i think they actually would...

Remove the individual scores, only show the team scores...

Will this game have co-op?

What the fuck is the guy in the article talking about?

I would be the best multiplayer experience if I wouldn't get terrible FPS even on lowest settings. :|
Duron 850, geforce2 gts

I am thinking that when this comes out, it will replace CS as the 'popular' game at LANs and such.

*wonders what he will play when this kills CS*

dammit AQ2 is still dead!

I'm curious if Raven had to go through any trouble to be able to use the OICW. I don't even think the U.S. military is using it, are they?

The random map feature is awesome, assinations are the most fun

Started playing the test this weekend. Great stuff.

i got yer hands on right here!

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