SoF2Test Impressions

issues with the game

r_vertexlight is cheat protected. Way to shaft the people that can't or don't want to play in lightmap and all its fps hogging glory.

The running animation is incredibly hokey, I'm sure it will be fixed soon however.

Is there a dynamic crosshair option? I hate it when my crosshair gets enormous, I'd like to keep it the same size. Yes, I know it signifies spread, however, I like to calculate for spread mentally instead of having a huge crosshair on my screen telling me that there is spread. This is why you do 3 round bursts in auto mode, anyone who has played more than 5 games of cs is already accustomed to this (cs's xhair is also not as obnoxious as sof2/rtcw xhair).

Weapon damage and accuracy issues. Apparently moving/running around while shooting don't affect accuracy at all. Why have semi realistic weapons, semi realistic (if hokey) movement, the ability to jump only once in succession, and not have semi realistic accuracy? Makes no sense to me.

^^^Someone is going to jump down my throat and say "this isn't cs, the guns are actually accurate here, so stfu." I don't WANT cs. However, if the guns are accurate when moving, why not give people an incentive to move by making player movement faster, and by allowing them to jump more than once in succession? Now people are going to say "stfu you bunnyhopping faggot!" It seems like raven is trying to ride the fence with the semi realistic tone of the game, but I think this could be the downfall of the game. Basically, all you get to avoid fire is people strafing around like mad because it doesn't affect accuracy at all..if they can strafe around like madmen, where is my more than one jump in succession to avoid fire as well? Just seems lame to me, I don't want q3 or cs, but I do want a game that decides on the movement vs accuracy issue, and in deciding, gives players good odds for dodging fire or makes them play more slowly in order to not get shot. Since the weapons are all hitscan (in accordance with your ping, as soon as you shoot, the gun hits, much like the q3 railgun), you'd think there would be MORE ways to get out of the way of fire (prone, roll, dive, jump more than once in succession). Instead, there's the "strafe back and forth way" which is pretty stupid.

This is the only FPS other than the quakes, cstrike, and doom* that I have ever enjoyed multiplayer on for more than a period of 8 hours. Great job.

The absolute worst part of this game is the auto-reload. Sorry, but that's more annoying than anything else. Especially w/ the grenade launcher that goes through the animation sequence even when you fire your last grenade.

Secondary weapon choise is extremely important, and I hate having to wait for my primary weapon to reload at the end of a clip when I could be switching to another weapon. Please provide a cvar for this.

http://www.wam.umd.edu/~jinman/Sof2Test1024xhighsettings.gif
Spectator mode of course.

Bumps over 400 real quickly in that spot too. :)

gf3ti200 and 1.3ghz tbird on NON-ddr board.

1024x high detail. In game I get 50-70fps and 100-120fps in hallways. I'm happy. I love the quake3 engine.

it's fun, except for a weird skin bug that's been popping up.

It's fun!

just played it for around 3 hrs... sigh... still waiting for the real CS killer

MP needs more radio msgs. Some of the current ones are a bit goofy. "Be careful!"??? ...maybe that makes more sense w/ FF on.

Need more team-related stuff. Like team movement and position-related msgs maybe. And of course "HOOOORJ!"

Why can't there be more gibs though ?

and where is the muthfucking rocket launcher?!

Many thanks to SpeakEasy for hosting awesome game servers!

One problem I've noticed: the 'radio' spamming. There needs to be a throttle on that, we had to vote-kick a guy off the DC server ... what a pain that was to organize everyone, but we DID do it.

something i noticed, i think the damage indicator is wrong sometimes, like it tells me im getting shot from the right when im really getting shot from the left. did anybody else notice this?

Probably mentioned, but, Snuff has escape with the briefcase.

I like it... Only been able to play infiltration so far.

The rounds have a low time limit, I really like that. It means there is less of a gameplay penalty for death. There is still a penalty, but you wont be waiting 4 minutes or something.

Because there is less of a penalty, so far I have seen less cowardice in the players. I actually saw people rushing as a group.

Oh and the auto shotgun is really quite nice, once I get the hang of it properly I should be quite dangerous :)

tis a nice game.

Steve said the reason there is no Dallas server is because they just dont have the resorces for it right now. Im not trying to bash steeve or maarten but its kind of odd that Shack is based in Dallas yet dosent have a SOF2 server (yet it does have RTCW, CS, etc.)?

Ok - I hope this is added later but I was expecting the most gory game ever but I didn't find that :(. I think SOF 1 was more gory. The only affects are blown off arms nad heads and there aren't even impressive blood spirts when that happens. I wasn't impressed in this area but other than that it was cool.

I just got done with some 4 person DM. Although it is fun, it's just too slow for me. Straight DM needs to be faster. The slower speeds are fine for the team modes.

Rick, is Assassin going to be included in the final? That was my favorite from the first game.

I admit, i'm hooked. I've been playing on the shack SF server all day. I am giddy with enjoyment. The amount of damage you can take lends it self to prolonged shoot outs which are fun, and limb dismemberment is sweet. Single player looks superb, can't wait for this one.

I played it a bit OKAY I played it all day - it's one of the better "tests" I've ever played, that's for sure.

I like a lot of what I see in it with some minor gripes:

*The M203 does no damage unless it HITS the person. That is wrong. Fix it.

*The player moves too slow. See Urban Terror for proper player physics.

*The weapon spread is hard to judge. It will take getting used to, but it's hard to tell where some of your shots are landing.

*Climbing ladders is not done in a natural way. Also found it annoying trying to get off the top of a ladder.

*Auto-weapon switching needs another option called "Just Weapons Not Grenades". Very annoying having it autoswitch me to grenades every time I pick them up.

*Weapon switching is slower than, say, Urban Terror, and it doesn't show you an ordered list of what you are carrying while you switch, so until you memorize the order of the weapons and what you are carrying, it can be frustrating getting to the right weapon with a mousewheel or other button bound to "next weapon" or "previous weapon".

*Jumping and ducking at the same time to get onto ledges is too finicky. Harder to do than it should be, probably because the player moves slowly... and doesn't jump very high (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

*No way to "run" for short bursts, and "walk" feels almost as slow as normal movement... you're just quieter.

*Lack of an "action" button - open/close doors, etc.

*Grenade toss is awkward and laggy and some of the grenades seem awfully... LARGE... in the player's hand.

*Textbox to show text you are typing in a message doesn't always appear when you are typing. Your message will still work but good luck knowing what you're typing as you type it.


That said, the weapons are very nice, the map is well done so I suspect all of the maps, if they are as complete as the test one, will be nice, and the player skins are decent as well. Game seems to play well, at least in FFA (Death Match free-for-all) which is all I seem to find servers playing even though there are other game modes in the test. The weapons seem pretty balanced although the pistols DO seem kinda weak.

Not bad. But it needs more damage feedback. U never seem to know when ur getting hit and u die so instantly.

The feeling I get when I play this test is a combination of HalfLife multiplayer deathmatch and weapons sound styles with Quake3Arena engine and CounterStrike atmosphere. I like it.

is there an m203 grenade launcher on the colt in the MP test?

I think its major fun.. even though the map isn't the greatest, it still is enjoyable.

the guns are nice, except the sniper rifle.. that thing is a pos, takes forever to get the scope up and does little damage it seems.


Even tho is a SP game, the multiplayer still has limitless potential with mod and map makers.
I just hope this doesn't turn into CS.. counter-strike is full of cheaters and assholes now.

Biggest reason it's fun? There's no cheating.

SOF2 Multiplayer is helluva fun.

It's like Counterstrike, without having to worry about money.

-Xian

some sof2 gore screenshot loving...

http://members.rogers.com/max.payne/sof/

;)

I hate how even though I'm the baddest mother fucking mercenary in town, I still can't hold my weapon strait while running.

Good ole 200!

The game doesn't run for me, I load it and it just goes black screen.

WinXP w/ v5 5500

xp 1900+ w/ 256 pc2100

My only beef is the built-in server browser... it doesn't sort by ping which makes it sorta useless. I end up using the eye.exe but then dont know what kind of game it is, FFA, team, etc.

But the game and netcode seem pretty sweet. I am able to totally domininate in the FFA DM! :) This is another must-have game!

My Refresh rate sucks in the game :( I know I have to get the nvidia refresh fix, but I am running the 27.42's which it doesn't support yet. Any idea's on fast stable drivers?
http://www.planetquake.com/ztn/nvreffix/

This game I like. I shall buy.

hahah i think there is a cheat already or the guy is messing with his video card, they guy is at the helicopter with his grenade laucher machine gun (dont know what its called), i come up the elevator shaft at the far end. I used the lean left and right tactic to see where the guy is with my sniper, boom i die! how did he know i just came up. Plus the distances was soooooooo huge!. Another thing is I used that machine shotgun on this guy. Four direct hits in front off him. Well the battle lasted for 1 second. Then i went immediatly to spectate mode of this guy, and guess what he had full armor and health!!!!. Btw my ping was like 60-80 on both games. Anyways its either a cheat or a bug of some sort

Ok after some more playing it aint so bad. Weapons are cool.

But. What is really new here? Nothing. Does it have out-of-this-world level design? Nope. How about a fps on the pc side which has a physics engine? I know its not really a pc game but MGS2 has some cool physics. Your in the kitchen. Bullets zap left and right and not ONE item can interact with anything. I love Raven games but just like JK2, the short development appears more and more obvious. I hope the single player offers more and new stuff. In the end, SOF2 wasnt meant to be a MP game like CS anyway.

Just my 2 cents.

I have a pretty anemic computer (Athlon 750, GF3Ti200) but the game runs like frickin SPANK at 1024x768 with all the pretty stuff turned on.

Weapons I like:
microuzi (i just destroy people with that gun)
greasegun

Weapons I can't use well:
autoshotty

Weapons I can't find:
that gren launcher thing with the 8 grens