Reality Killed the Videogame Star
by Steve Gibson, Apr 08, 2002 1:39pm PDTMeant to publish this one over the weekend but forgot, most likely due to daydreaming about the day Maarten arrives here. (Wednesday!). At any rate, here's a bit on the New York Times discussing the unending quest of game technology developers to simulate "reality".
During the last year or so technological realism has claimed its greatest triumph yet, as three major game systems made their debuts. Lives there an 8 to 18-year-old or an adult guiltily aspiring to that state of mind who has not yet heard about the technological accomplishments of Sony's PlayStation 2, Microsoft's Xbox and Nintendo's GameCube? Elaborate textures and sounds make earlier games seem like playthings. The humble controller that once maneuvered a diminutive and plump plumber named Mario across a television screen, allowing him to jump, bop and run, has now been pumped up like Lara Croft's bodice; the bloated Xbox controller has eight buttons, two triggers, three toggling switches and untapped possibilities. And the promise and threat of these systems caused sales of video game systems and games to jump 42 percent last year to $9.4 billionSeems to me the cycle is pretty predictable. New wizbang pretty technology comes out, first guys outa the gate make something really pretty but not all that fun, the fun patch comes out later. There are exceptions of course, but I'm making generalizations here, work with me people.
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mario used to be a great game, but super mario sunshine looks TERRIBLE.
doom was a great game, and i hope they don't completely fuck it up.
jedi knight was a great game, but jedi knight 2 doesn't hold a candle.
wolfenstein was a great simple game, but RTCW was NOT a great game.
how come i cared more about the story in the relatively simple little Space Quest games than i do in almost EVERY SINGLE GAME I PLAY TODAY.
is this progress?
-gren
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frankly, i get enough realism in reality. i'd like a little escapism in my videogames, thank you very much.
-gren
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Does Chess have a storyline? Does it simulator reality? Both are answered "no"! Yet Chess is one of the all time great games.
What about Tetris? Its definitely a classic. Reality and storyline be damned.
The same goes for: The Sims, Pacman, Asteroids, Quake (1) Multiplayer, Super Mario Kart, Breakout, Bomberman, and many many more. My point is that there is no set formula for making games, yet you will see many developers talk about "the basics" of a game such as the physics engine and scripting for the storyline.
Finally, one example of a series of games that ceased to be games... and became cheasy movies that require a button to be pressed, in order to advance the movies: the Final Fantasy series. Anyone who started out on the original Final Fantasy 1 for the NES knows that it was a great game. You had a lot of decisions to make (remember this is back in the 80s) that effected your party. The Final Fantasy series improved through each iteration, when it peaked with Final Fantasy 6 (FF3 in the USA). Starting with Final Fantasy 7, everything was downhill. The storyline for each game became totally linear. Interactivity became lame and dull, if it even existed at all. Really, I wonder why they don't just cut out the crap and make the thing a movie that uses the Playstation's rendering capabilities. Oh wait, the majority of the games are prerendered. Forgot about that... so why don't they just release a frickin DVD movies?
Sorry if I sound pissed, but Square killed one of my favorite video game series by putting too much storyline into it. "Lines" are linear and not interactive. You have only one choice with "lines", and that is to keep going in the same direction.
Now, a game can have an "emergent story", but not a storyline, like say with The Sims. There is no story LINE, but the gamer creates their own story. Some developers try to approach "emergent stories" in their games by cramming multiple story LINES into it. One example is Deus Ex. A great game, but still flawed. If you are too creative, the storylines break down, and you realize that there is no "emergent story", just a bunch of scripts that break when you do something the developer didn't consider.
Lines and Realism can be useful in some games, but definitely NOT all games. Most of the best games have a dash of storyline and a dash of realism... and the rest emerges from the actual gameplay (Counter-Strike is a good example).
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I'm amused that the NY Times decided not to run an article on video games, but instead an english-class-style essay on technology in video games. And true to form, it had no real evidence or strongly supported conclusions, just a lot of opinion and hand-waving hidden by an overlarge vocabulary.
Sigh.
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yea... so bloated alright...
*cough* dual shock *cough*
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i look at mine and count 6 face buttons, 2 triggers, the start and back button and 2 analog sticks
this guy must have gotten some lame ass 3rd party stick with turbo switches!!! hehe
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There's nothing really stopping folks from just buying up older simpler games if they like that stuff. However you can get a cart like SMB3 for like $3, so releasing a new game that has equivalent tech isn't gonna fetch your $40. New releases using older tech (even if it's fun) can't support all of the marketting/sales/support that comes along with releasing a modern game, mostly because of the perceived value "Hey only 2 people worked on this game, why should I fork over $40 for it?". If you are capable develop lowtech games to sell at low prices you might do ok if they're fun, but don't expect them to be "big".
LOOK AT THOSE GRAPHICS! THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!!!