No SoF2 Bots

I really don't see the point in bots in a game which isn't multi player (as in good, like UT or Q3 designed for multi or Tribes)

If it's MAINLY single player focus, don't waste time on shit like bots - who plays vs bots in "mediocre" multiplayer games anyhow.

Do people play vs bots in Blood 2 or Shogo or Daikatana etc etc? - no they play bots in popular online games for practice and because the games are fun multiplayer.

Sof 2 might be fun multiplayer - but it won't be a "super" multiplayer focused game (CS for example)
Focus on single player plz - thank you!

even though I loathe CS

I can fix the bot problem... I hope... For a price...

Seriously folks, this isn't a big deal. The bot code in Q3A is a horrible mess. I'm working through it and making a serious amount of progress. Like, just yesterday I finished adding a sound awareness system. It had an incredible impact on the realism of the bots. I don't know if the bot code will be commercial quality, but it will be significantly better than the code released in a commercial product (ie. Q3A), and the code will be publicly available. Don't give up hope.

And for the record, I've spent the past 4 months looking at the code and reworking it and I have multiple months ahead of me. Reworking bot code requires a serious amount of resources, and I'm not surprised these companies didn't have the time to pull it off.

As far as I'm concerned, bots can stay the heck out of my multiplayer games. When I play online, I want to play against humans. Bots are for offline. I play(ed) a lot of UT, and as good as the bots were, I still avoided any game running them to keep a minimum number of players in the match. I wish games that did include bots also included filters that could screen out servers running them.

You can't talk smack to a bot.

Well at least they'll have standard single player like AI for the skirmish mode. I got tons of play out of Red Alert 2's skirmish mode.

So basically it sounds like the AI doesn't know how to play CTF or other multiplayer modes, that's all. I suppose I can deal with that as long as the normal random generator sets nicely for skirmish.

Yes, this is complete crap-ola. Raven, you should know better, damn it.

SOF1 shipped without bots, and were it no for the HIDEBOT, developed by one of us, there wouldn't have been bots until SOF1 GOLD, if at all.

FUCK YOU, RAVEN.

Thanks!

-Lex

Good I hate bots

I don't see a problem. Hell, Raven initially said that there would be NO multiplayer- you can't fault them for not having bots when multiplayer wasn't even supposed to be in SOF2.

I have had many enjoyable hours playing SOF1, Q3:A, UT and CS using bots. They are reliable, intelligent, and in short, worth the effort.

Out of all those above-mentioned games, only UT shipped with bots. All of the others were afterthoughts.

Not everyone has a cablemodem, DSL, or T1 at their disposal.

EVERYONE does have the ability to host a game server that has an assload of bots, closely approximating the feeling of being online.

With waypoints and behavior variables now the standard, it's a no-brainer.

Thanks!

-Lex

it takes balls to admit your a failed programmer?
you cheer them for their inability to add bots to a game? were'nt games that were released 3+ years ago shipping with bots, like uh, rainbow six for example? OHH thats right, this game is a MOD to an already built game engine, kinda like what the Quake 3 mod making community does, I get it.. Oh well..

i have good internet speed, but usually enjoy what random comments bots have to say more than, well, those lurkers you do find on multiplayer internet games. true enough though, patience and enjoyment of the game will bring about familiar names and common grounds.

:(
for us 56k dudes, thats not good news... when I found out JK2 had bots, I was elated... hopefully they'll change...

Bahh...

Someone will make a BOTS mod anyhow...

Reality folks - lots of other Q3A games didn't ship with bots, all for a reason...

People actually like playing lame bots?! 56k?! LOL

oh... ha... ha... what a funny april fools joke, they sure got us good...

Hrmm, no bots? strange