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Girls Girls... calm down. We don\'t want anyone to get a broken nail or anything. :)

Okay, so that\'s out of the way, and you can get your 100+ fps in Quake 3 ... but the GeForce still doesn\'t do it. 48.X in 1024x768x32? Whee. I\'m running my V770 non-ultra TNT2 at 640x480 and getting 39.X . $350 ain\'t worth no 10 fps more in hi-res.

nVidia better transfer the chimps off their driver development team.

#48:

\"So in my original assumption if the last paragraph is at all correct, it does mean that your 100 fps means dick in Q3, simply because you won\'t make use of it online (unless you change the default and risk having happen what carmack is referring to. \"

No, that\'s not true. It *is* useful to have a card capable of going over 85 fps. Even if he can\'t display, say, 100 fps, he\'ll be better off with a card that has the potential to do 100 fps than one that only has the potential to do 85 fps, because in complex scenes he\'ll be less likely to drop *below* 85 fps. Framerate is variable, and timedemo scores are indicative of averages. The higher the average, the higher you can guarantee the score is at any one moment in time.

-Scum

Heh...

Random stuff on this topic:

Even if the game never lets you go above 85 fps, if your board is *capable* of doing 200 fps (or whatever) you\'re much less likely to see framerates drop below 85. That\'s all that really matters.

I have been told by a GeForce board manufacturer both that RAM prices aren\'t affecting GeForce prices, and that the earthquake in Taiwan is being blamed for delaying GeForce chips (and boards) until November. Funny that no one has said that publicly, though...

I have a couple questions for some of the more vocal people on this board:

1) Why is T&L such an important selling feature right now when games that really use it are months off, and the price on these boards will drop substantially by then?
2) WTF do you need 64 megs of RAM on a video board for? Are there actually maps that load 64 megs of textures at once? Do you need to run your desktop at 10240x7680?

Now, bear in mind that these are honest questions for which I\'m looking for clarification. I\'m not flaming, I\'m curious. I\'m looking for an intelligent, reasonable answer; not \"OMG u fukin looser why dont u go back to ur doodoo3 and stfu cuz 32bit 2048x2048 textures rulz!\" I just don\'t understand why people are complaining about the high price of a board that really won\'t be used to its fullest potential until it\'s dropped about $100 anyway.

-Scum

wasnt the v2 12mb 300$ when it came out?

commaxfps 85 is just a default setting. You can set it to what ever you like in your config. Carmack just put it in to let people know.

Oh yeah,

Graeme Devine said Q3 doesn\'t support hardware T&L yet.

I guess they havn\'t been using the xform engine in Opengl. Devine also said that they ARE going to support hardware T&L in the release version of Q3arena game.

Beta cards, beta drivers, beta games, hehehe.

$350 for a fooking video card?!! Pffft. On the other hand, they might be aiming for a piece of the professional market with the DDR ram equipped card.

I\'m just going to wait until they drop to ~$100.

#34:

I may be wrong, but I never heard com_maxfps was a server side variable..

Carmack-boy\'s last plan indicated that the FPS cap would be lowered to 85FPS in version 1.09.