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• holy christ, you're making it lower?!?! WRONG WAY! >:( : hawkeye
• Buffering reply........ : ashkie
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  could you turn it off after say... 10pm? I really think this could undermine so really decent debates. u... : -Panther-
  • yes, I see no reason why this is bad : hawkeye
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  no way is this a good thing sTeve. conversations can go fast here and if you can't post to keep up then ... : archon
  • I couldn't agree more - specially when we are dealing with other threads and shit - this is my 4'th in w... : abrasion
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  Sounds reasonable enough to me. I think the changes have been a big improvement; if people don't like i... : Waverider
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    yeah pretty much the idea. i'm sure the people who this will affect will have all kinds of reasons why i... : Steve Gibson
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      I can see what you're trying to accomplish. It's great to read through non-Werd/ER/FP comments and get ... : Waverider
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        thanks. i spend a painful amount of time pondering stuff like this. i guess we'll just see how it goes a... : Steve Gibson
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          sTeve take it from a long time visitor: this is bad for the shack. maybe it will be better for you becau... : archon
          • Archon, I've probably been here as long as you, although not always registered or as vocal. I like the ... : Waverider
          • agreed. i think you're pondering too hard steve... this really only applies to werd/er, and those are in... : vodor
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            that's what people said after guidelines were implemented, heck, that's what they say everytime he fiddl : -Panther-
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              That's right. When guidelines came in, it was considered the end of the world. I ignored comments prio... : Waverider
              • I wonder if klerk will denounce the shack and vow never to post again? It's become sort of a tradition h... : -Panther-
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              trust me I've been totally supportive of all the changes before this, but this is ridiculous. there's ab... : archon
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                But what's stopping you from waiting 30 seconds or so before making an additional post? Is it really th... : Waverider
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                  no but it's not just 30 seconds. I know personally I like to respond to alot of people in a lot of posts... : archon
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                    yeah, it's not being a chatty-bitch that makes me kill it. it's following 3 threads at a time that makes... : Dante
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                      EXACTLY : wunderbred
                      • nice emphasis! now what useful info can i put here to fill my 10 minute post window? :) : Dante
                    • EXACTLY AGREED! : abrasion
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            I disagree entirely. Charm is not a function of post rate. Never has been, never will be. : Experiment IV
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              I'm talking about the charm of the shack, not post rate. what the fuck are you talking about? : archon
              • Something you obviously do not care to understand. : Experiment IV
      • Depends on what you're looking for, I typically don't read a post if its long. I look for links, fun... : dra.
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      oh the wicked irony. i had a few questions all typed out, and they got post rate limit'd. also: why d... : Dante
      • the back button still works for me. : slobberpuss
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        I'll try to find out on that one. The way post rate treats your browser is not pretty at all. : Steve Gibson
        • I have the same problem; it is a bit frustrating to have a post typed out and then have it cost by post ... : Waverider
        • yeah, like 2 or 3 different pages load up. i think one of the intermediate ones has a form on it; when i... : Dante
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  so is this more or less posts than before? : AllYourBase
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    way less : hawkeye
    • that makes me cry : AllYourBase
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  wow, 6 per 10 is less than it was before? :P : vodor
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    nevermind, i was confused. : vodor
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      I thought you were being sarcastic : jednet
      • now that i realize what's going on, it is! : vodor
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  This surprises me. I expected with the new server it would go the other way. The server can handle it an... : radicus
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    yeah, you can't just change the shack after all this time because the people that comment here are what ... : archon
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      yea he can. he just did, didn't he? : Dante
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        doesn't mean that people can't leave later. : archon
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          and more people will fill in behind them. happens all the time. : Dante
          • but what exactly does he want this site to be? another fucking blues news or voodooextreme? I sure as fu... : archon
    • the thought im sure will cross peoples mind but they will never leave, they never do. : radicus
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  who are those 10-20 people? : fsck
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    they'd reply if they could : darweidu
    • lol, too true : Rebelgal
  • based on how many i've been hit with tonight, count me in. just for tonight, though. : Dante
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    me!!! you'll see alot of us type really strange stuff at the end of our messages to keep ourselves oc... : hawkeye
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      so are the hawkeye forums still open? : lacker
      • www.squabble.org/bbs/ doesn't really matter as far as this change is concerned though, since you can'... : hawkeye
  • I think it's actually quite a few more than that, but still definately a minority. it may be a good thin... : -Panther-
  • im one, damnit...i tried to post that and it said id hit the limit >:( : radicus
  • I'm one when I'm in the middle of a "fight" / debate. : abrasion
  • definitely me, I am cursed with being able to read, think and type quickly, over multiple conversations : Torias
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  the one good thing which come from this is that we can pretty much wave bye bye to those incessant fucki... : -Panther-
  • We can all hope can't we? I like the decision. Viva the 'not so chatty' bitches! : Hustlah
• So you don't want us to treat this place like a chat room? Won't affect me much beause I can't type tha... : Nemo_NX
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  I'll let you know if this effects me, if it does I'll be sure to get you to put it back to normal. Th... : abrasion
  • Well it hasn't done yet - we shall see :) : abrasion
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  That's a bad idea man. That's a really bad idea.}y You need to activate this for all non-werd and no... : wunderbred
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    absolutely. I can compeletely understand if he wants advertisers to come see a better, more cleaned up s... : archon
    • ditto : Nemo_NX
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      advertisers dont give 2 poops about the forums. : Steve Gibson
      • Yet you focus all your attendtion to that. Interesting. :) : Nemo_NX
      • I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but can you clue us in as to what the post rate limit has to do with you... : AllYourBase
      • well then what in the fuck does it matter if all the posts are ignorant and childish? so what if the com... : archon
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        Steve, I understand your intentions to appeal to advertisers, but if you focus on that too much you're g... : wunderbred
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          He's not losing focus on what's good for the site, though... this IS good for the site. We chatty bitche... : klerck
          • So he discards all legacy to the group that helped make the site what it was from the beginning? : wunderbred
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            Thats true. We contribute a high percentage of the resource using yet contribute little in advert dollar... : radicus
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              That should be the idea IMO. I'd love to pay 10 or 20 bucks a year to the shack and receive benefits : wunderbred
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                Let's see... $5/1000 posts sounds about right to me! : klerck
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                  that doesn't sound unreasonable : hawkeye
                  • I'd never pay money to post lame ass catch phrases. : firebone
        • Ever notice he never really explains what the problem is? He just shoots out the new rules and that's t... : Nemo_NX
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    I know I wouldn't leave but I sure don't like it : AllYourBase
    • I wouldn't leave over it either, but it's another annoying thing on here that's added to a list of plent... : wunderbred
  • I wonder how hard it would be to do this, rather than have the post rate blanket all comments. : zerologik
• tryin' to stretch the new hardware's life? : slobberpuss
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  you mention your personal idea/vision for the shack. Care to share that with the rest of us? I think we ... : radicus
  • i was thinkin' about that as well... : slobberpuss
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  just tell me straight out, am I one of them? : mista mista
  • n/m I'll just test it : mista mista
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  sTeve, how about a comments section and a messageboard section? (yes, I know there's a messageboard) com : hawkeye
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    i've asked andy to create a separate funk.y messageboard specifically for that reason. i realize the val... : Steve Gibson
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      WOOHOO! :D : hawkeye
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        Y'know, that may suck too, because it'll split up the groups in werd/fp and er and the tangentboard : wunderbred
        • I doubt it, probably just end up with less newbloods in the tangentboard I know I'll be there, since : hawkeye
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      *cough*BORD*cough* :) i don't think you'll ever live that week down. : Dante
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        I liked Bord till it started dying the new post rate limit is going to cause me to do stuff like t... : hawkeye
        • Sander claims that he knows exactly what caused it to die as the post count got high, and that he fixed ... : Dante
      • What was the deal with that, anyway? It was here, it broke the comments, it was gone, never to be heard... : Waverider
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      maybe stopping first posts and evening readings and setting up one news post that isnt listed under news... : Morgin
      • is it easier for the server to handle shorter threads? Probably not since its returning a small chuck of... : radicus
      • how else could we have two "FRIST POTS BITHES!!1"? : Dante
    • Mozilla 1.0 compatible? t-minus 6 weeks..... :) : Nemo_NX
    • That sounds like a great idea. : {Venger}
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  Why not just get it down to 2 posts pr hour? : -TKF-
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    how about 2 troll post per hour : AllYourBase
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      yeah, it isn't like this is just cutting down on garbage, it's cutting down on useful posts too :( : hawkeye
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        you honestly have to wonder how many well thought out posts a person can crank out a minute... : -Panther-
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          well thought out doesn't mean shit though, alot of the time I hit the post rate limit it's when I'm repl... : hawkeye
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            no one said that this change is without it's faults but personally I do believe it will cut down on some : -Panther-
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              perhaps he should try cutting down on those doing the inane chatter instead? perhaps punishing all of... : hawkeye
              • I come to the Shack every once in a while, post up a storm for an hour or so, and then leave. Talk abou... : J4NUS
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                I have yet to hit it and I consider myself quite the chatty bitch... :\ : -Panther-
                • TYPE FASTER THEN! :) *sigh*, hit it again, I'm gonna go do something else : hawkeye
• If that's the surprise we were waiting for, I feel vaguely... disappointed. : J4NUS
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  once you got fast new servers, you lower the limit, weird : chillin
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    the change had to do with the content of the posts not the quantity. : -Panther-
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      then how bout just sayin that outright? Im still curious what his grand vision is for the comment system : radicus
      • One word.. SlashDot.. it's a known fact that Steve is looking to buy 45% of Slashdot.. /Sarcasm (i ho... : -TKF-
      • that's precisely what i'd like to know: http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3211660 : -Panther-
  • looks to me like steve's tryin' to stretch the effective life of this new hardware. less posts means les... : slobberpuss
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  Funny that this has created a MONSTAR thread : sluggz
  • it's extremely funny. quick, someone label it as tangent! : vodor
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  what is your secret grand vision steve? : headache
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    seems he doesn't want to reply to these types of posts :\ btw, the new limit isn't 1 post per 30 seco... : hawkeye
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      not really interested in debating my opinions. i read everyone elses reasoning, and as you saw from my p... : Steve Gibson
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        oh, i'll be abusing that 12:00.59 thing, you can be sure. hitting post..... Now! : Dante
        • hey you almost got it : Morgin
      • it'd at least be nice to know :( : hawkeye
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  What State has doe here is to eliminate the Shack equivalent to bunnyhopping. Some people acting in a wa... : Tissen
  • State? I meant Steve of course. : Tissen
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  fuck this. : Torias
  • Yeah pretty weak. It's becoming to PC : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
  • they forgot about dra. : J4NUS
• I keeess j00 : pyide
• I am so screwed. >:( : FilthyPantsBulge
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  Say it's peak time. I'm in flat mode conversations all around me I could be talking in 3 conve... : Torias
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    choose your conversations carefully? :) : klerck
    • been nice talking with you j/k :) : Torias
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  6 posts per ten minutes??? the only possible sane reason you could have for this, is to make those 20... : Torias
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    yeah, I'll end up doing something else while I'm waiting, and forgetting to come back I'll still be w... : hawkeye
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      I'm gonna go waste my time doing schoolwork. Toodles! : J4NUS
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        I'm gonna get some snacks and watch Bubblegum Crisis 2040 though I should do some schoolwork (math's ... : hawkeye
        • make sure to check out priss's boobs in the last episode. : dra.
  • i think it's brilliant. and i don't think it could have been made in short-sighted haste, as this pla... : dopeman
• If i didnt have something else to do all the time I would be pissed off about these new rules. they rea... : ease_one
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  slow it down eh! : davecrazy
  • fucking canadians : Torias
• buncha candy assed bitches. Half the reason I don't post here is cause anything valueable I've got to... : seven
• >> 4 posts per 5 minutes whaa ???? !!! : sikander
• Christ this fucking sucks. : Poor Yurik
• oh man no worries. dial up over here : Psychotic-Monk

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  what happened? : emocore
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    well he put a gun in his mouth, people pleaded for him not to... he did. the camera zoomed it. : -Panther-
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      he wasn't a newscaster he was a public official. btw, the Filter song Hey Man Nice Shot is about that... : Sexpansion Pack
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        oh, the file title mislead me... my apologies : -Panther-
        • hey no need to apologize it wasn't my dad or anything. : Sexpansion Pack
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      remind emocore it is a fairly old vid : Morgin
      • yeah it was black and white. it was the first time i had seen it though.... : -Panther-
    • oh right, that guy. i thought it happened again recently or something : emocore
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  for some reason i watch that stuff in amazement over and over. Just like the kennedy video. Fortunately ... : radicus
  • HEADSHOT! : Tissen
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  www.watchthis.news/castershot/himself.ra : chuk
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    Non realplayer link? : {Venger}
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      jesus, you really don't want to see it... it's not really gruesome... just... depressing : -Panther-
      • well I want to see it : mista mista
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      NO, sorry : chuk
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        Wait try this one. www.Whythefuckdidyouclickthis.net/videos/Bang.mpg : chuk
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          you just made up those damn links : mista mista
          • well then here it is: www.nohedidn't.com/hereitreallyis.mpg : Kniggit
          • Don't tell anyone! HEHE ;) : chuk
    • I have it somewhere in my harddrive : MeenMunky
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    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~abrasion98/real/ : abrasion
    • nice info. one recommendation: top line: go to <a href="www.real.com">www.real.com</a> needs to ... : king_darius
    • keep that page up abrasion - I'm gonna bookmark it for future reference. : uberp00
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    broken ? : filthysock
    • It's a joke. : kueay
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  Yeah it's some lawyer dood.. I was luckly that I forced myself not to watch the whole video.. There is ... : Twids
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    link? : mista mista
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      ici/hier/here/etcetcetc : http://www.moderntv.com/modtvweb/qtclips/buddtr1.htm : Twids
      • thank you : mista mista
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        wasn't there another one of of a female newscaster that shot herself on television in 1974? or is this t... : vestax
        • wrong reply : vestax
        • You're talking about Christine Chubbuck. It aired live on Suncoast Digest Monday July 15th 1974. Her las... : kueay
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  are you guys talking about R Budd Dwyer? If so he was a politician accused of fraud, not a news caster o... : patdoody
  • yeah that's the one.. lawyer.. politician.. the'yre the same thing.. cheating bastards ;) : Twids
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  That's so old, and not that harsh. : abrasion
  • Then please.. don't post anything that you believe it harsher.. ergh... Why do people like watching t... : Twids
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  I watched this once. I fucking jumped so high when that gun went off. Nasty! : chuk
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    my roomate wants to see the vid. i dont. : dra.
    • Don't- not worth it. : Twids
• Score = -1 I think I have seen this from one of the 'Faces of Death' videos. Not sure if it was the sa... : CoBeL
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  The blood poors out of his nose like someone turned on a goddamn tap full blast! anyone want link? : kueay
  • it'll be nuked. don't bother. : king_darius

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• * A G R E E ' D * : setaanbomb
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  you must be one of the 10-20 people : -TKF-
  • I'm another! : gegtik
  • I used to get the post rate thing like twice a week, I got it about 10 times today and it took 10 times ... : moshman
  • I'm another! : Toraz Chryx
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    There was WAY too much shit going on to let so much ass work its way into the comments. Some of you fuc... : Odoyle
    • Some of us type quickly and tend to follow 2-3 seperate discussions at once. :/ : Toraz Chryx
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      Fucking awesome thing to wake up to. This rocks and I hope it is the first step of many to give this pla... : haiku
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        Do you not see how it could be something of a bitch for those of us who type at a high speed? : Toraz Chryx
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          and write short concise replies. : Raziel
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            I think its worth it to wait a few before hitting reply in an effort to help clean up a lot of crap comm... : haiku
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              I think that most people when they hit the post limit, will simply wait a few mins and post what they we... : moshman
              • That's true, but still that's less crap posted overall. : Odoyle
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            Or have an ability to debate topics quickly and logically. No matter... this will allow people to re... : laidback
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              you and I both know that people will just fap longer between posts. : Raziel
              • maybe... of course, people at work will have more reasons to be productive also. Thanks Steve! It's ... : laidback
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          I type really fast and I am elated about this whole thing. I think it rules. The content and behavior he... : haiku
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            Alright then. You should expect to see more "THE POST RATE LIMIT CAN BITE ME" additions at the end of : Toraz Chryx
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              Yeah I would expect that, and I think it is unfortunate. I am not going to lie and say that it wont piss... : haiku
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                I wish certain kids of crap comments were nukeable. Elaborate? : Toraz Chryx
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                  this brought up an idea for me. What if, instead of hitting the post rate limit, you put some sort of... : Raziel
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                    that would make it impossible for people to leave a discussion and then come back to it, because half th... : Toraz Chryx
                    • well you'd need a "show spam" checkbox in your options. People who keep to the post rate limit and/or... : Raziel
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                  Here: http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3209887 http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3210231 http://... : Odoyle
                  • You would delete the Andromeda account wouldn't you? : -TKF-
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            the key to good discussion is MODERATION, not post limitation. If excessive insane posting speed is cau : Raziel
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              I think I might have some enlightening reasoning behind this and when I am at work (on company time !!) ... : haiku
              • agreed.. practicality is the big issue. Perhaps this was the best of a bunch of bad options. *shrug* : Raziel
          • my problem is that i generally come in here and converse in short bursts between doing things at work. i... : Clay
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            But, you see, if somebody wants to say something, bumping the postrate won't fix it. It'll just make the... : 0Wingfan
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              if someone wants to say something, hitting the post rate makes them go "fuck it, it wasn't important any : Raziel
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                I think it's fixing minor irritation with major irritation. I think this would finally kill the cooln : 0Wingfan
                • getting post #4000 is gonna be tough : Raziel
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                  this is a place i think having some sort of "karma" scale would work great. Make people prove they can c... : Clay
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                    yeah but sometimes I don't feel like intelligent conversation and want to get silly. : Crimsonbeak
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                      true. but it would at least encourage more intelligent posting. : Clay
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                        Then I think karma should be something that is raised and never lowered, unless it is cleared by a banni... : 0Wingfan
                        • <Mcbain> Let's get silly </Mcbain> : Crimsonbeak
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                          no.. karma is something that should only be lowered and only raise over time and never above zero. Mini : Raziel
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                            oh dear god, Karma implemented like that would turn the place into slashdot >:( : Toraz Chryx
                            • why? do tell. you could have saved yourself a meeting with the post rate limit by explaining things mor... : Raziel
          • What the hell? Its a fucking post-rate-limit, not the second coming of christ or some shit : SS-P
          • ya gotta little piece of brown stuff on yer nose there, haiku ;) : ZeBFFd00d
• Yes, the post rate limit is my nemesis. That thing is set for way too short a time period. : Degenerate
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  What new post rate limit? : Raziel
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    This fucked up one -> http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=3211589 : moshman
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      oh, that's gay. I can't make 3 posts in quick sucession. I have to wait a few MINUTES to post my third... : Raziel
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        Haven't test it... Let's try... : laidback
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          hmm.. funk.y don't fail me now. : laidback
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            works. :( : laidback
            • hmm normally I can't do more than two posts in quick succession. I'll try. FUCK, HOW IRONIC, THE POS... : Raziel
      • the gayest part is the 4 msgs in 5 mins and 6 in 10... That really fucks me over.. :) : moshman
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  So, that's a *bad* thing, then? : freqq28
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    IMO yes, but I'm entirely sure it all the better for Steve (otherwise he wouldnt have done it eh :) : moshman
    • I think they're just trying to even out the traffic. I imagine some of the post battles (though fun) pla... : freqq28
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  I think you guys have to keep in mind that the LIMIT might be here to help the SHACK not hurt it. Its n... : jedi_27
  • dude, they just got TWO new Dual Athlon servers, with more memory than the original space shuttle. I thi... : moshman
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    I'm just not sure why the Shack went from: HIGH SPEED --> LIGHT SPEED}b --> LUDICROUS SPEED --> TYPE- : 0Wingfan
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      Guys i really don't know. I just gave you an idea. Maybe the bandwidth despite having the new gear is ... : jedi_27
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        No. I totally respect Steves decision. I just wanted to point out that it pisses me off :) : moshman
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          GIBSON FANBOY ;) : jedi_27
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            lol. It IS his site :) : moshman
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              time for a coup ;) : jedi_27
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                We should get Maarten first. I will lure him with my bong and some skunk. You steal the passcodes. GO! : moshman
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                  he might see it coming. Dress up a pink large bunny and he might fall for it ;) : jedi_27
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                    yeah, with LSD earrings! "C'mon Maarten, suck my ears, C'mon" :))) : moshman
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                      MOSHMAN great idea! that might just do it. now about Steve . . . : jedi_27
                      • we could kidnap Crystal :) We will be nice to her of course, take her to a nice meal, buy her some new c... : moshman
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  I think Iraq has a bright future ahead... : freqq28
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    wrongreply'd? : Raziel
    • Either that or George is a Shacker. : 0Wingfan
    • Stilldrunkfromlastnight'd : freqq28
• How I Shack: I visit the Shack when I feel capable of holding debates on several things at once. To b... : 0Wingfan
• Breaking news: Excessive posting in this thread won't help. : Tissen

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• I HATE THE PS2. : setaanbomb
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  XBox is technically more advanced. That does not make it the better system. A system is as good as it's ... : Tissen
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    The sole three reasons I bought an xbox were: 1)Better quality/game ratio- face it, ps2 may have ~8 s... : firebone
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      but isn't it weird to think that those "great" X-Box games could all be running on a standard PC with a ... : -TKF-
      • Ugh ugh ugh. Nearly anything on any of the consoles could run on a kick-ass PC if you wanted them to.... : 0Wingfan
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      Good points, but there are not ~8 super awesome games for the XBox right now. : Tissen
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        There weren't 8 supar awesome games for ps2 this time last year. : firebone
        • No, but I said the PS2 was the better system today. : Tissen
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          but does it fucking matter? this time last year there wasn't a X-BOX. You can't compare the X-Box games... : -TKF-
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            did you see the videos of that Mech game for the XBox? (the name of which escapes me) THAT was fuckin... : Toraz Chryx
            • yes.. that was FUCKING AMAZING! The things moved like real big fucking robots.. But until i see it... : -TKF-
            • Tekki. It will r0x0r my b0x3rs. : nomaad
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            Yeah, "now" is so important. That's why in October of 99 I deicded I shouldn't worry about the future, j... : 0Wingfan
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              i hope you had your fun? If not it's your own fault, after all there was and is lots of good DC games. ... : -TKF-
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                What I'm trying to say is, people talk about "now" because they keep trying to compare Xbox to the PS2 o... : 0Wingfan
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                  Now is important because you play the games thats "hot" now. Will i bother with Halo if Doom3 is out? Wi... : -TKF-
                  • But you see, the game will be sold for many more months to come. Part of the problem with the PC indu... : 0Wingfan
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                    yeah but racing games suck :) If I weren't such a Nintendo fanboy I would of probobly gotten a PS2 over ... : Crimsonbeak
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                      Gamecube is my next Console :-) : -TKF-
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                        Good man. I am actually extremely happy with it. Smash Bro's and Rogue Leader are kickass. : Crimsonbeak
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                          I will get my driving games from my PS2, My fps on my PC and my games on the GameCube HOORJ FOR THIS ... : -TKF-
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                            what makes me sad was a post by you (i think) with linkage for an article about GTA4 being 2 years away.... : jedi_27
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                              hey.. i posted something else! Wait! : -TKF-
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                                GT4 scheduled for 2003 not 2004 Yamauchi-san said development was still relatively early. Neverthel : -TKF-
                                • thanks. not sure if i should waste my posts to thank you ;) : jedi_27
                          • you forgot RTS's on PC as well :) : Crimsonbeak
                        • Smash is good multiplayer, so-so against AI. Rogue Leader, well, let's not go there. : 0Wingfan
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                        i've got a GC, it rocks me! i honestly don't play it enough, I need to get my wife play SSBM :) oh... : Clay
                        • damn that sucks. Guess you have to spend 35 to get another one :( And nintendo uses those messed up scr... : Crimsonbeak
            • i still use my dreamcast alot. so much so i havent gotten an xbox,ps2 or gamecube. : nurall
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            the videos dont doo rallisport justice... probably one of the best looking games on the system, ill defi... : -=kodiak=-
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              is cleaner graphics, sharper image quality I tend to agree with that allthough i haven't seen a X-Box o... : -TKF-
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                i just wanna see how the skies of arcadia port to ps2 looks in comparison to the dreamcast... god i hope... : -=kodiak=-
                • Crazy Taxi shouldn't have been ported.. they should have kept that to the DC. The DC version was cool. : -TKF-
                • Judging by the Rez port and the Crazy Taxi port, I wouldn't hope for much. : 0Wingfan
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              Well i think the Hard Drive is gonna take off with FFXI unless of course the Japanese don't like the who... : Crimsonbeak
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                square/sony is gonna have to make a very hard decision on how to price the game for north american audie... : -=kodiak=-
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                  no kidding, it makes SSBM impossible to play because all that controller does is punch :) : Clay
                  • that really sucks you can prolly still beat the computer until they are difficulty 6 or 7 though :) : Crimsonbeak
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                  Actually I would pay $1 to create a char if that is the only thing I had to pay. I mean I am only using... : Crimsonbeak
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                    dude once you get high level, you need those mules. I had a 57 Enchanter in EQ. I had 2 accounts and bot... : Clay
                    • Well I never really have had that problem in dark age mainly because I just give away all of my stuff on... : Crimsonbeak
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                  blizzard would be even richer! but yeah this is going to suck. you have mule accounts in EVERY game. ... : Clay
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                    I really think the companies should set up there own mini Ebays which they get the profit from so ppl ca... : Crimsonbeak
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                      wow that is a good idea... sanctiond auctions so you know you're not getting fucked around : -=kodiak=-
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                        nah that would be too expensive to hire people to watchdog it. Back when you could get away with it, the... : Clay
                        • of course selling accounts is still legal atleast in Dark Age. So there really is nothing stopping you ... : Crimsonbeak
        • I dont understand why people always say that. That doesnt matter! When you buy a console you want to kn : ZeBFFd00d
• Both of them are evil. the Xbox is made by.. Microsoft and the PS2 contains.. Rambus memory BOTH ... : Toraz Chryx
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  X-Box is a PC sold as a Console so that MS can place a license engine/money machine in your living room.... : -TKF-
  • I really wanna play 4-player DoA3 with all of us huddled around one PC. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. : 0Wingfan
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  I own both systems, just got the xbox last week. I can easily say I have had FAR much more fun the xbo... : moshman
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    Fun is what matters. Did you try Ace 4 for the PS2? Rent it for a weekend.. even if just to watch the re... : -TKF-
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      Does that have a different name over here? I've never heard of it :) Also, renting games for the PS2 is ... : moshman
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        Ace Combat 04. Way cool. : nomaad
        • OK, another one to check out. sweet! L) : moshman
• Pepper>salt. : freqq28
• i like xbox, but gta3.... : Silent1
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  firebone, these are the same morons who killed the dreamcast do you really have to ask yourself that qu... : -=kodiak=-
  • I killed the Dreamcast? : ZeBFFd00d
• Maybe because of X-Box trolls like yourself. Or, the fact the PS2 lineup is a magnitude better, and... : Ulkesh
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  If that was really true, why did HALO get game of the YEAR on the shack ? : jedi_27
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    Since when did it get game of the year on the Shack? : Ulkesh
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      you must be new around here ;) http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/17700/ : jedi_27
      • Interesting. I'd thought it was Max Payne and GTA3. Makes no difference. I'd say those people loved H... : Ulkesh
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    Whoa! Don't use facts in this discussion young Jedi! :-) good point, i always felt the shack was pr : -TKF-
    • thanks TKF. I have learned from my mistakes and have two excelent teachers tkf and zoesch : jedi_27
• I love my XboX and I think I'm leaning towards getting a GC as well. I like the PS2. I will pick that up... : ultramega