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  Kill him. : drucifer
  • I'm about to! : c0bra
• It seems pretty cool : geedeck
• OH MY GOD SHUT UP : c0bra
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  .NET is better than all other Microsoft solutions out there. and once the open source implementation is ... : filthysock
  • the mono project won't bring over ado.net, and the other core parts of .net. Without those libary pi... : sucko
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  I've read about 4 books on .net, csharp, asp.net and im actively using it at work on some applications a... : draed
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    It seems to be easier than most other solutions... : StuMan8424
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      easier, yet with C# I find i can have nice good fine control as well. and developing custom controls is ... : filthysock
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        Just messing around with it it seems cool. Although I don't like the fact that strings are immutable... : StuMan8424
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          for that, u use StringBuilder : filthysock
          • I know, but string builders are also kind of awkward... I think that is just intellisense having problem... : StuMan8424
    • really depends on your coding style, type of projects, and what you've worked with before. From my perso... : draed
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    half elf warriors suck : insta
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      instadeath~ : draed
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        check your shack msgs, ugly : insta
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          Get the fuck out of my thread. : c0bra
          • now you gone and done it! : insta
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  Anybody know the relative performance you get out of the .NET languages? I'm most interested in there r... : Amadan
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    Can you explain what you mean by psuedo-interpreted? : c0bra
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      I take that to mean 'JIT Compiled' eg, it's interpreted, but the results of that interpretation are c... : Toraz Chryx
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        Cached in memory? : c0bra
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          that's how JAVA JIT (AFAIK) and the motorola 68k emulator JIT engines work. programming languages are : Toraz Chryx
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            I understand what JIT means but I don't see why you would want to cache programs that you're running in ... : c0bra
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              well, as I understand it (which is probably wrong) JIT execution engines run the code via interpreter, a... : Toraz Chryx
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                ... So it HAS to be in memory, if you kept the JIT'ed code on disk, it would defeat the speedup by fo... : Toraz Chryx
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                  But if you're running lots of stuff at the same time won't that eat up memory? : c0bra
                  • yes. but the code speedup is generally so great that it's worth it. eg, WinUAE has a JIT 68k emulator... : Toraz Chryx
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      As I understand it, .NET stuff gets compiled to a half compiled state, which then executes instructions ... : Amadan
      • Its compiled to Intermediate(?) Language, IL... I think the same applies to VB and possible managed C++.... : StuMan8424
      • no, it gets compiled to Common Language Runtime which is then compiled to machine code. i think : filthysock
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    hmm arrays are pretty straight forward. the only difference being that arrays are actually objects in c#... : draed
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      namespace MCProj { class MCSim { const int NUM_PARTICLES= 256 particle_t[] pop = new partic : Amadan
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        Whoa. I shackcoded/tagged myself. Basically, how to I create a class, then create a global array of th... : Amadan
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          there are no global vars in C# : draed
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            Well, global throughout my class. You know, class1, then Main and auxilliary functions in there. I wan... : Amadan
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              well im not 100% of what you are doing but this might help if i don't get shacktagged using System; : draed
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                blah : draed
                • Thanks, that fixed it. I didn't think I had to declare a type before main, then when I instantiated it,... : Amadan
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      everything is an object in .net; in every language. Even normal datatypes, like int, float, ect are ob... : sucko
      • Isn't that the way Java is? : c0bra
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    its not pseudo-interpreted its compiled. plus c# is the closest to the .net framework. a lot of the fra... : filthysock
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      actually at runtime the c# exe loads the CLR which compiles the program's IL(intermediate language code)... : draed
      • So is CLR related to what I heard about every language being able to be compiled in C# or something like... : c0bra
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        So the CLR is platform-independent like compiled Java? : c0bra
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          As I understand it, it's platform independant, if your platform is windows. I guess if you had a .NET f... : Amadan
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            Yes. It would. : Delithio
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              Okay, lets go from there to how you can compile other languages into CLR. Can you do that? I seem to r... : c0bra
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                All of the .NET languages get comiled to CLR. C++.NET, C#, VB.NET. From what I've seen they all have s... : Amadan
                • c# can be faster than vb with creating objects because c# only supports eary binding. Vb can do either... : sucko
              • as long as there is a compiler for the language that compiles it into IL that the CLR can work with, any... : draed
      • from MSDN library "The runtime supplies another mode of compilation called install-time code generation... : filthysock
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    i know that vb and c# are so close in speed there is no real difference. : sucko
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      there is no difference, because they are both compiled into the same IL that the CLR uses. the advantang... : draed
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        slow down there, big fella. Yes, they get compiled into il, but they use different compilers to get... : sucko
        • errr yea. i meant VB, not asp. typo : draed
• ".NET Solutions" is pretty broad. But Visual Studio .NET owns all : ratman
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  Visual Studio .Net is pretty good, is that what he means? : snuff
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    I do dig the IDE. It's vastly better than 6.0. Extraspecially the VB. Holy crap did the VB6 IDE suck ... : Amadan
    • heh. you should see the delphi ide.. you'd think the vb6 ide was a dream. : sucko

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  for me it was operation flashpoint : AllYourBase
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    blasphemy! (must need to upgrade your machine hehe) : Dread Pirate Roberts
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      heh, AthlonXP 1700, GF3, 256MB DDR, I doubt it was my machine : AllYourBase
      • you a bunny-hopping fan-boy then? ;) : Dread Pirate Roberts
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  Thief! : lobster
  • Hey guys! Get Him!! : jvox
  • WTF one of the best games, EVER. : thief
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  Wheel of Time : jvox
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    omg how did this game suck? it was pretty damn fun : Nighteyes
    • maybe i'll give it another try. i sure do like fun! : jvox
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  DUes Ex : smdever
  • only the fact that you misspelled it vindicates you. : johnny appleseid
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  Descent to Undermountain Hidden & Dangerous : fragasm
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    Descent to Undermountain was a big boiling bowl of poo : Degenerate
    • i thought it never came out? :) : darkling
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  The Sims : Dread Pirate Roberts
  • Hahah... agreed. : Nullzero
• Tribes 2 : Hizzow
• black&white, sof, and diablo II : mista mista
• Quake3 : -Panther-
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  Daikatana (the CD is cut in half) and Blue Shift. Serious Sam does have its merits, I'm thinking of r... : the archvile
  • Gunman Chronicles was good stuff I was almost on the dev team for that, and one of the guys from the : Toraz Chryx
• definitely Black & White. : ajpc
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  Heavy Metal FAKK 2. : jasonepowell
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    Blasphemy!!! that game was top notch. : greh kleh
    • I hated it. Of course, I only played it for a day before I said fuck it and gave it away. It's prob... : jasonepowell
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  YOUR MOM : jokemon
  • hey, at least it was a low budget purchase. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Trespasser. The funny thing is that when I got my 1.1 ghz Athlon I thought it would be cool to install t... : Dreagon
  • Yep I tried the same thing with the same results. They must have been really thinking ahead to make it ... : andymwise
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    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~abrasion98/tresspasser2.avi (although I'm @ work - I'm not sure the prec... : abrasion
    • haha, too true : emocore
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  Quake 3 Arena : ZeBFFd00d
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    but the mods redeem it, don't you agree? : ajpc
    • I expect my games to be good OOTB. : ZeBFFd00d
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    q3 owns...nothing beats the quake series for the raw amount of skill needed to do well : simmer
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      Quakeworld > Quake 3 Arena : Toraz Chryx
      • DOOM2 > QW :) : Vorlonesque
  • I was really hoping for a better mod community out of Q3A :( :/ : Nullzero
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  Would have been B&W but I actually a) got the patch and b) played skirmish alot which was good so I'd ha... : Jonathan
  • first encounters was a wasted idea. it could have been SO FUCKING COOL.. but instead it was just 'meh... : Toraz Chryx
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    WW2 Online : emocore
    • oops : emocore
• KKND Extreme : x-eyd|mary
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  total anhilation kingdoms the sims black & white : Oog 
  • Yeah, TA:Kingdoms. I even convinced one of my friends to buy that when I did. He taunts me about it ever... : Zeeliv
• disclaimer: I like all these games for certain aspects, but that does not go to say that they arent tur... : tomservo
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  Tribes 2 : jidar
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    i hear that game gets better after you update it with all 17 patches : jedi_27
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      you heard wrong : Do_Or_Die
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        damn then add another game to my list. along with TIBERIAN SUN! : jedi_27
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          OMG! Lies! Tiberian Sun is winar! : Nullzero
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            Hahaha.. I found my Tiberian Sun soundtrack CD... i thought i burned that! : Hizzow
            • BURN IT AGAIN! : jedi_27
      • Actually, in terms of bugginess and performance I didn't really have any problems, albeit combat wasn't ... : Vorlonesque
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  ABOMINATION, WORLD WAR 2 ONLINE, STAR WARS:BATTLE GROUNDS, and a game called S.W.I.N.E. : jedi_27
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    Hahah... WW2-Online... did that shit die yet? : Nullzero
    • no i think they still have like 500 people that actually play. how sad : jedi_27
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    STAR WARS:BATTLE GROUNDS? it's isn't great but I have fun playing it better than force commander and as ... : Jonathan
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      oh crap. you just reminded me. Oh own FORCE COMMANDER as well! : jedi_27
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        you're just a sucka for star wars RTS - bet you even own Star Wars supremancy or Rebellion depending on ... : Jonathan
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          yeah i do. i don't want to talk about it : jedi_27
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            in fact - reading this thread you're a sucka for bad games! : Jonathan
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              at least i never picked up DIA-CRAP : jedi_27
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                there's hope for you yet. : Jonathan
                • yeah i know. I once thought about trying to sell my bad games. but there is no-one in their right mind... : jedi_27
• DAOC : telex
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  EVERQUEST. Not only did I hate it, but I couldn't stop playing it for 3 years. It really sucks being a... : BobTheNinja
  • huh? You should give me all your money - then I'll make you run around doing tasks and killing monsters ... : Jonathan
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  Quake 3. : seemlar
  • Also, Starcraft and Starlancer. : seemlar
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  black and white, alice isnt that good either. : virus
  • Alice had a really cool idea but it felt way to much like Tomb Raider : spector
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  Too bad my collection is at home but off the top of my head: Wing Commander IV Rebel Assault 2 (not ... : SatansFist
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    Wing commander IV is not complete ass, it's a very good movie! : Toraz Chryx
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      No, Wing Commander 3 was a good movie. This was ass. At least in Prophecy you got a pretty damn good spa... : SatansFist
      • Prophecy was *crap* I was borderline on adding it to my list of bad games. : seemlar
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        WC4's movie was great, what the hell are you smoking? the space-sim bits sucked, but the plot/FMV = G... : Toraz Chryx
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          Maybe it's been too long since I played it... I didn't play much of it though. : SatansFist
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            ah, well then, you probably missed all the really cool bits of the movie "PROGRESS COMES THROUGH STRU... : Toraz Chryx
            • Yeah that dude is cool as hell! : SatansFist
      • it's all about privateer. i loved the buying upgrades aspect. : slobberpuss
• Black & White, Return Fire 2, Red Alert 2. : slobberpuss
• Mantis, SegaRally for PC, and Corridor7...also maybe EOB2 since I got stuck and gave up on it, but that'... : Vorlonesque
• blaze and blade. worst. rpg. ever. : incoherent
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  Half Life : wumpscut
  • LOL : SatansFist
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  NOLF and Blood 2, I should have learned my lesson from Blood, I HATE Lithtech engine based games, they a... : Corvus_6
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    Blood was the Build engine. : ZeBFFd00d
    • blood 2 was Lithtech though. : jasonepowell
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    the original blood was on the build engine, same as duke3d. blood2 suckd MAJOR ass tho. i still rub i... : slobberpuss
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      Blood2 wouldn't have been as horrible if Blood 1 hadn't been so cool. It still would have sucked hairy ... : dognose
      • agreed. blood deathmatches were pure hilarity... SCROTUM SEPARATION : slobberpuss
      • Oh look! I'm in the same alley climbing over the same box that I was 3 levels ago! >:( : dognose
  • I liked the Blood 2 demo, was the full version so much worse? : Lone Swordsman
  • You are definately misguided. : abrasion
• codename outbreak : lacker
• Outpost, Tiberian Sun, and Trespasser. : Lone Swordsman
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  Serious Sam, NFL Blitz, Diablo II I think those are all because I don't buy a lot of games that I kno... : arizona bay
  • j00 didn't like Serious Sam uh WHA? : dognose
  • I hated SSam also. : abrasion
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  Oddworld [couldn't get into it] Anachronox [couldn't get into it] Daikatana [the feeling of cheapness ... : wunderbred
  • Finished Blade Runner, still play Tribes 2. : Lone Swordsman
• Kiss physco circus : Lawgiver
• My collectoin consists of 5 games or so, but the worst out of them is probably.... I dunno they are all ... : spector
• Q2, Q3, Tiberium Sun : Ulkesh
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  I have an original copy of TEK WAR. Ill never live that one down.... : sluggz
  • WINNAR : awoihjaweohr
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  Necrodome. Truly horrible. I have 3 copies : anonimo
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    Multiplayer Necrodome was the biz. Two people manning a vehicle, way before Tribes. : Lone Swordsman
    • Never got a chance to try that out, it always ran so slowly. Also, back then, I was guiding for TEN, wh : anonimo
• Another vote for Black and White, getting $50 of Guiness would have lasted longer and would have been mo... : el gringo
• Total Annhilation (don't hurt me), Caesars Palace (Microsoft Casino was better), and Tiberian Sun. : 0Wingfan
• Tribes 2 :/ : haikeebah!
• BLACK & FUCKIN WHITE : filthysock
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  Oni : sshock
  • Good game when it wasn't unfairly difficult. : Lone Swordsman
• Battle Chess 4000 is one of them. Ugh, it was fun for like 1 game against the CPU. Then I started to pl... : CoBeL

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  START AN ARNIE QUOTE THREAD!!! : Jerry C
  • "PHASED PLASMA RIFLE IN A 40 WATT RANGE" "Hey only what ya see on the wall pal..." : Lynn Minmei
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    I'll be back : wumpscut
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      "WHO IS YOUR DADDY, AND WHAT DOES HE DO?" : Lynn Minmei
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        "What did you do with Sully?" "I LET HIM GO" : Lynn Minmei
        • "OK EVERYBODY... CHILL!" : Lynn Minmei
  • I HOPE YOU LEFT ROOM FOR MY FIST BECAUSE IM ABOUT TO RAM IT INTO YOUR STOMACHE. : wunderbred
  • ITS NOT A TUMOR : Chicks Dig Me
  • GET READY FOR THE BIG SURPRISE : wrynn
  • YOU HAVE BEEN ERASED! : b00tsauce
• GET TO THE CHOPPAAAAA!!!! : Jerry C
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  HEY SULLY REMEMBER WHEN I SAID I'D KILL YOU LAST....I LIED! : awoihjaweohr
  • YOU SHOULD NOT DRINK AND BAKE!! : xocsida
• STOP WHINING!! : Jerry C
• consider this a divorce : lacker
• IM A COP YOU IDIOT! : Jerry C
• LET OFF SOME STEAM : Sexpansion Pack
• NOW LISTEN TO ME VEEEEERY CAREFULLY... : Jerry C
• IF IT BLEEDS, WE CAN KILL IT : awoihjaweohr
• COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE! : snuff
• CHILL OUT. DICKWAD. : Jerry C
• http://www.williambova.net/soundboard/arnie.htm : wunderbred
• MAY I PLEASE SPEAK TO THE DRUGDEALA OF DA HOUSE?? : Jerry C
• SHIMI SHIMI COCO PUFFS SHIMI SHIMI RIGHT : kueay
• I KNOW WHO I AM : b00tsauce
• KNOCK KNOCK : fetii
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  RUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPERS : Jerry C
  • "YOUR CLOTHES. GIVE THEM TO ME. NOW" : Lynn Minmei
• NO PROBLEMO : wumpscut
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  I DONT CARE WHO SURFS YOUR HERSHEY HIGHWAY!! : Jerry C
  • HOWDY QUAID! : wrynn
• ONE OF US IS IN DEEP TROUBLE : wrynn
• AND STOP SHOUTING, IM NOT DEAF!! : Jerry C
• RED TEXT IS BETTER THAN GREEN AND YELLOW : --Viscid--
• IM GOING TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS... : Jerry C
• STICK AROUND : awoihjaweohr
• IT'S NOT A TOOMAH : geedeck
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  MY CPU IS A NEURAL NET PROCESSOR, A LEARNING COMPUTER : wrynn
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    "I'M DETECTIVE JOHN KIMBALL" : Lynn Minmei
    • "I'M HEEERE! KILL ME!!" : Lynn Minmei
• AND I WANT TO HAVE THEM ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY. : Jerry C
• STOP IT!!! : Jerry C
• STICK AROUND... : Jerry C
• 'The best activitities for your health are pumping and humping.' - 1975 : c0bra