New AMD March 20

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• haha, yeah, the fastest PC running here is a Athlon slot A with 700MHz and it seems I will hold on to th... : Grigory

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• Other than the price, I can find 0 evidence that intel sucks. Go for it. : Bali
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  Help the underdog get some marketshare, eventual competition and benefits for consumer down the line? : indeego
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    Besides the basic "Intel sucks" argument : 0Wingfan
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      that has nothing to do with intel, and more to do with AMD. I personally like intel, I just like cheape : indeego
      • Okay. I'm just kind of the opposite of you, and always love The Man. That's why I happily use Windows... : 0Wingfan
• Nothing wrong with that other than the AMD rig will generally be faster (not a whole lot mind you) than ... : johnny rotten
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  I'm an Intel fan, so you won't get any complaints about this from me. If you're going to overclock, y... : jimmy-buffett
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    I thought that RDRAM didn't overclock well... I really would like the higher bandwidth RDRAM. Gues... : Flava
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      Here, I found it for you. http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020128/index.html : jimmy-buffett
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        Here, I pulled the conclusion page (its after 21 pages of Tom's, after the first 10 pages you'll want to : jimmy-buffett
        • If Intel (or, more preferably, NVidia) would release a dual-channel DDR solution for the P4, RDRAM would : anonimo
  • I wouldn't use RDRAM until 1066mhz RDRAM, apparently they "Fixed" it and it's much better, plus RDRAM ha... : abrasion
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  yea thats a bitch, my heatsink falls off all the time : halfwaybastard
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    wtf are you doing to that thing? : spector
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      sorry, forgot the /sarcasm tag : halfwaybastard
      • oh :D : spector
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    I can tell you are invited to lots of LAN parties... /sarcasm : Flava
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      explain the situation when your heatsink fell off, i've just never believed it was possible if you weren... : halfwaybastard
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        I work in a computer store, heatsinks coming off is something that only happens if you snap the catch wh... : jidar
        • exactly : halfwaybastard
        • does Best Buy sell Alpha's these days? didn't think so : Flava
• if your heatsink falls off, you have much bigger problems than replacing your CPU. Little things like y... : DinK
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  so you dont think that if your heatsink fell off after you overclocked it 500-600 MHz past its intended ... : mohmar
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    With current motherboards, that shouldn't be an issue, as the Athlon XP's thermal cutoff feature is now ... : anonimo
    • exactly, get a better heatsink next time, not one that will break off the plastic tabs around your socke... : mohmar
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  An min overclock basically guaranteed to 2.3-2.4GHz for the P4-1.8A versus a max of 1.8GHz for the simil : galvatron
  • The new .13 P4's do it aircooled, and very cool that is. : abrasion
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  I totally agree, until there's a good chipset for AMD out that's stable and well known (nforce needs 4+ ... : abrasion
  • the nforce is only compatible with certain approved RAM, micron, samsung and hyundai are not approved. ... : Turd Ferguson

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  what whole thing they pulled? the performance rating? its not thier fault consumers dont know whats up..... : TheTick
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    If something runs at 1.7mhz, renaming it 2.0 seems deceptive regardless of the performance. I dont know... : Bali
    • try http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1574 I think it's pretty clear that the AthlonXP 2000 sta... : UtilityMaximizer
    • there are many reviews on AMD and AMD vs Intel. You can check out FiringSquad's review of the 2000+ here... : mofo
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      That's not exactly what they did; the XP's box still lists it's mhz rating, in addition to the "performa... : Conan
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        The problem is they want people to remember the performance rating over the actual speed rating. When... : 0Wingfan
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          follow the simple logic train: As opposed to everyone replying with the same damned mhz rating? If th... : jidar
          • But what happens when people overclock? Since AMD is using marketing jumbo that does nothing but simply ... : 0Wingfan
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            CPU's have always been marketed using Mhz. Call me a bonehead, i'm certainly not the most knowledgable ... : Bali
            • But bigger #'s usually have meant faster performance from what i've seen in the past That's right, an... : [Zoesch^2]
            • its not a standard measurement...its called PR, performance rating...and they are pretty damn conservati... : TheTick
    • The thing here is that mhz is a really bad indicator of performance.. there could be a 10 ghz chip that ... : Mo__
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  Performance between the two are comparable, they'll trade off high marks for different applications and : jimmy-buffett
  • Thanks man, in my opinion that's informative. =) : Bali
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    occasional compatability problems, Where?, find me compatability problems NOT caused by a chipset p... : Toraz Chryx
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      that's just it, I take the CPU and the chipset together, until Intel makes an AMD chipset, you'll never ... : jimmy-buffett
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        the amd 760, 760MP, 760MPX (it has a problem with the onboard usb but all dealers offer a usb 2.0 pci a... : Turd Ferguson
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          are you running one of these chipsets yourself? can you personally attest to their reliability? Tora... : jimmy-buffett
          • no, but i have heard from dozens of sites that the 760MP chipset is rock stable and does not cause any p... : Turd Ferguson
          • If I remember right he says its a little slower in the benchmarks, that's because I'm using it with S... : Toraz Chryx
          • I am... Running: 1xAMD 751 and 1xAMD 760 Stability problems? ZERO Also running: 1xIntel 815EP S... : [Zoesch^2]
      • Intel hasn't made a good chipset since BX :op : TheTick
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      Firstly, I'm speaking as an AMD fan here (I have one at home), but there is a bug in the Athlons that ha... : jidar
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        like floating point calculations? yeah, I remember those days... ;-) : jimmy-buffett
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          Pentium FDIV 0xf00fc7c8 Intel 820 MTH Pentium 3 1.13 GHz i850 AGP and PCI dual video card setup ... : Stormrider
          • i845 and channel switching i8xx and PCI paging Intel isn't blameless : [Zoesch^2]

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• hammertime. : johnny rotten
• I will upgrade one machine and wait for the hammer for my other PC... my DAW's been relocated to a 1Gig ... : [Zoesch^2]

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  i think you can expect a little... : mohmar
  • ...then maybe a little more later... : anonimo

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  I thought the 2100XP was the .13 micron... : spector
  • nevermind i am a complete idiot : spector

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  Not really true. Unreal2, UT2 will eat up all the hardware (cpu and video) that you can throw at them. ... : johnny rotten
  • amen to that. i know the leaked unreal2 e3 demo isnt final or anything, but it runs like utter shit on m... : boobie

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• basically any board that supports the Athlon XP will support the Throughbred : Adrenaline