Columbine Lawsuit Dismissed
by Steve Gibson, Mar 05, 2002 2:58am PSTThe biz guys and legal folks at id Software and Activision are sighing a little bit of relief, the Columbine lawsuit against them has been dismissed in US District court. The lawyer for the family of Dave Sanders says that they will certainly file an appeal.
U.S. District Judge Lewis Babcock granted motions to dismiss filed by Time Warner Inc. and Palm Pictures, as well as 11 video game makers, including Sony Computer Entertainment America, Activision and Id Software, the maker of "Doom." In his ruling, Babcock said there was no way the makers of violent games and movies could have reasonably foreseen that their products would cause the Columbine shooting or any other violent acts. "Setting aside any personal distaste, as I must, it is manifest that there is social utility in expressive and imaginative forms of entertainment, even if they contain violence," Babcock wroteWe've certainly had a few studies allegedly prove one way or another the influence of video games on people. The most recent trend in the past year has been that experts believe that games dont influence people. Even prompting an announcement by the US Surgeon General several months ago. I for one would gamble to say that generally games and other forms of media do influence people like anything else in the world, but not to any degree further than anything else. However there are certainly sick people out there who can be abnormally and strongly influenced by just about anything. Be it something they see on the cartoon network, in a movie, or in a video game. Should those industries be blamed if a sick person tries to emulate something they saw or did in those products? No I dont think so. Will the victims and families of victims so upset over the senseless violence search desperately for somewhere to point the finger? Yes.
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I'm glad that the suit was dismissed, because I really don't believe that the games had anything to do with it, but I can see the victims families side of things. Losing my Dad was hard enough, and we knew that was coming. Finding out your child was killed is simply unimaginable to me.
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"You're trying to censor something I like, therefore I will be personal about it and say you're a bad parent."
Those idiots who raised the American Taliban are bad parents. The woman down the street who wants her teenage son carded in case he buys overly violent games isn't just because she feels that way.
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Quit tryin' to censor music. This is for your kids amusement. (the kids!)
But don't blame me when little Eric jumps off of the terrace.
You should've been watching him. Apparently you ain't parents."
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I think it's funny how the big time news stations ie. CNN, Fox News show footage of DOOM and blame it for things that go wrong in the school system.
I want to sue Atari for making pac man because it's making me munch on pills and see ghosts. :(
Ok, my rant is over.
They keep mentioning Doom. I can only think the parents and lawyers for the people are crazy too. Doom does not have characters that look like humans well. The graphics are nothing like what real life offers. To take THAT and use that in the real world truly is crazy. I am not blocky, I am a round bastard.
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-FG
I don't remember a character named Arlene in Doom... Can someone refresh my memory please?
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Does anyone have linkage for this? I remember it but I need the article or write-up for school.
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But this is a prime example as to why kids should not be given so much free reign while growing up.
I always see these "POP" psychology groups talk about "steering" and "let them make choices".
BUMP THAT!
Certian controls NEED to be put into place, as well as dicipline.
I will ALWAYS know where my kids are and what they are up to. (YES, I HAVE 2, 10 and 5)
Communication with my kids is one of my main priorities.
Knowing whats going on with them is the next priority.
Some would say "well you can't ALWAYS know what they are up to". Suuuuure...
Ever heard the saying, "you can't CON a CON"? Well, thats what experience as an adult is for. We've all been at that age. We've all had the hormones and emotions flying around. So why should it be so different for our kids. Damn it, parents need to keep tabs on their kids, at all times! Even if it means keeping those "Apron strings" attached a little longer.
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Steve Gibson for President of playboy
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But seriously, anyone can be influenced by anything. And if you look at all of these shooters, most of them come from families where (in some way) the parents aren't fit to take care of a plastic houseplant, much less a teenager.
Kids do need some semblance of parental responsibility and monitoring. And allowing them to build bombs in the garage is a little TOO much freedom. If these parents had any sense of their kids, maybe this wouldn't have happened.
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The number of incidents blamed on video games is miniscule when compared to how many millions of copies of these games are played by people all over the world.
If you use the reasoning of the poeple who say video games cause violent behavior this would be a true statement:
"Games are a direct cause of violence, so the Shack will be out of business soon- it's only a matter of time before all of their readers are in jail for murder."
I am glad that this suit has been dismissed. I think the parents are singling out one aspect of society to hit on which is not the case. It seems those people involved were seriously disturbed and needed real help. To take something you see on a "magic box" and have it influence your life is disturbing. Acting out what you do in game only shows that their minds were lacking in something. It is also good while the judge does not approve of the things in media he tossed it out on the lack of merit.
http://culturalpolicy.uchicago.edu/conf2001/papers/freedman.html
Not necessarily ~ I maintain that the impact of advertising has a more powerful influence on people than playing a video game. Playing games simply provides people with a brief high (or prolonged, depending on how long you are playing), or a sense of satisfaction when a task or objective is completed.....
Well said. While it's unfortunate that Columbine incident happened, it's equally unfortunate that to this very day people still engage in "witch hunting." It's odd that people feel if they point the blame at something else it will ease their suffering.
I suppose if Eric and Dylan worshiped Barney the Purple Dinosaur there'd be a lawsuit against him too.
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