Devine on Q3CTF & MrElusive

With those two minds working on bot AI, I have no dought that they will roCk!

#56 Ah, phew, thought I was being a total dick and getting you mixed up with someone else. :)

Goin\' on vacation (un north) starting tomorrow, and I have a mission of finishing all unfinished single player games, \'cos I gotta get ready before Q3a and UT both come out. :)

Creepy, did your parents have any children that lived?

heheh.

They seek him here, they seek him there, and they find him...

Of course I read this page :) Name me one Leet MoFo who doesn\'t include the Shack of Love in their hourly web readings ;)

You going to the NGA on Saturday if it\'s on? :)

-- Rukh

I admit that taking it out was good for most people..because there wont be any alias binding fuck that some how pulls out a weapon just as the grapple clicks into the wall... and smacks ya (zbot with rocket out the ass)
but the grapple makes for an interesting tool.. Humilate the enemy by fraggin them with a grapple.. heheheheh hang form high hidden sniper points hehe
and set up a DFA RL D (Death From Above Rocket Launcher Defence) hehe dont ask me.. i didnt make it... hehe
but then you get rid of the wankers that always are out for personal glory.. :) and that means actually trying to help yer team instead of staying on d while one person grapples through the crowd and dodges a bfg blast and escapes with flag...

#53 Oh Christ Rukh, you\'re on this message board too??? LOL :)

#28, I bet you\'re the sort of guy who would f**k someone up the ass and not have the goddamed common courtesy to give him a reacharound

-- Rukh :)

Omicron bots own me.

43: yeah, thats me =] Havn\'t been playing much lately, got addicted to a space based RPG (Think freespace2+eq). I\'ll have to remind myself to play more often, so I dont start going through withdrawl and wondering whats going on.

BTW #12, I Have emailed q3feedback multiple times and have received personally written emails each time, even one from carmack himself on issues i brought up on q3. They listen! ONe voice among thousands, maybe, but they hear it!

#41 Nighthawk, are you the same Nighthawk that plays on the QW EMS Creeper server sometimes?

I, like pry most avid quake fans, was extremely disappointed when I found out that quake3 ctf would (for the most part) not be using the grapple hook. At first thought, I (being the type to run in an enemy base, grab the flag, and bolt out before they even knew i was there) thought this was absolutley absurd. I then started to realize that no grapple will give true quake fans more of what brought them to the game in the first place: carnage. No grapple means being more up close and personal. NO COWARDS is the bottom line. It also gives more meaning to the \"run and gun\" feel. As a result of this decision, I think we will not only find out who the real players are, but also have better matches and tournaments. Also, fighting along side, and depending on your teamate to come out alive will give more of a brotherhood among clansmen. I, being a q1hippee, have grown accustomed to the grapple hook and shudder at the thought of not having it, but when i look back upon it, the hook is more of a coward\'s device, not a true warrior\'s weapon. All i can say, is I\'m a quake fan, an ID fan at that. They have never dissappointed me. Every game is a little divfferent but we grow accustomed to it. I hear people saying \"I want it to be like quake12...or i wish the rl waslike q2\'s\" I\'m sorry, but its a new game. If I wanted the rl to be like it was in q2, then I\'d play q2. ITS A CHANGE. Just be appreciative that we live in an age where their is online gaming,instead of my parents era when getting drunk in a cornfield was the thing to do. (ive only done that once on a dare hehe). Tha is all i have to say for now. I hope this sheds light on to my view and maybe make you guys realize what might be going on here. Thanks,
Bounty Killer

Next thing you know, they will take the flags out of CTF! Thank god for the mod community. There is one project to make a QWCTF mod for q3, should be fun =]

#36 LOL dude...so fucking true!

I\'m not trying to say the ctf is ruined without the grapple, or that ctf needs a grapple. It\'s just fun to have, make gameplay lots faster and strategic all at once. I\'m disturbed not only that id is only releasing 4 gametypes, but that seem to leaning towards making everything like vanilla deathmatch. I\'m a bit bored by that.
So here\'s my solution:
I just don\'t understand the drastic rationale of removing the grapple entirely from their maps- more creative, less dulling solutions are out there, such as:

Just disable the grapple for the flag carrier- this has several effects.
1) Same effect of making teamwork more crucial as removing the grapple entirely, but...
2) It gives flag carriers an actual disadvantage, making teamwork REALLY crucial. No grapple for anyone doesn\'t REALLY add teamplay, cus everyone has that disadvantage.
3) It\'s more realistic! Who the hell can manage weapons, a grapple and a flag all at once!

>>\"CTF and grapple are not tied implicitly together.\"<<


Finally! Someone willing to state the obvious - even knowing that few wanted to hear it.

#31, it sucks.

but seriously, what dont you know about UT?...

id be so happy i would bust a nut all over UT and epic

I\'m picturing this, and it appears humorous to me.

I\'m with #2, all this Q3 news is making my nipples perky!

NOT GIVEN: Sorry man, I meant #17

#21 Hey I said I was going nuts from all this sudden great Q3 news again on the Shack man, cut me some slack here...than again, unlike this Martin guy who is an obvious id and Q3 hater, I would normally stay out of UT related threads, not always offcourse hehehe. And yeah
I like id 1000% better...what\'s wrong about that?

I think JC is striking a nice balance between listening and acting on ideas from the community. As any software engineer can tell you, sometimes the users know what they want, and sometimes they don\'t know even if they say they do.

Oh, and bringing Mr. Elusive on board is a nice move. I can\'t wait to see what he can pull off when working this closely with the game designers themselves...

But, he\'s not exactly Elusive anymore is he? :)

KNOFTAR

I assume you read the wrong post? If i thought id didnt listen i wouldnt be asking.