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  yeah, i'll miss child porn. really. : Raziel
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    Ashcroft is a religious zealot. : assin9
    • I know and all I want is Marijuana legalized..they could take away all the booze and porn for all I care... : smdever
    • Yea quick, cover your semi-nude statues!!!! : Q-ball
  • Uhm, child porn has nothing to do with what i was posting. : anon@syr.edu
  • STRAWMAN ATTACK: The strawman attack's name comes from the idea of setting up a strawman and knockin... : Midshift
• Excellent, way to go America! Let's hear it for the right wing Christian party... I mean the Republicans... : Fred Garvin
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  The shack has conservatives? I pretty much thought it was my handful of libertarians versus your averag... : MoNsTeR
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    I think he was talking about SA having conservatives which frankly is completely unpossible : hawkeye
    • you are kidding me. Half the people on the current events board are conservative. : anon@syr.edu
    • Why? Conservatives and Hypocrisy go hand in hand. : assin9
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  isnt this unconstitutional by the first amendment?? i swear someone has tried this before, use NetNanny ... : mohmar
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    or a better idea ..PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING : smdever
    • Yeah no shit. People leave their teenager in their room with a DSL connection and a sattelite receiver a... : Fred Garvin
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  I find pictures of Ashcroft to be obscene, can we ban those? : hawkeye
  • I 2nd that opinion : anon@syr.edu
• BTW i made this post on the 2nd page (THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT KIDDIE PORN OR KIDS LOOKING AT PORN ON TH : anon@syr.edu
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  I dont really understand what they are going to outlaw .. like what kind of pics do they consider obscen... : qrenton
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    http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=2967393 : anon@syr.edu
    • this seems unreal .. to quote a great man (Pierre Trudeau) "the state should not be in the bedrooms of t... : qrenton
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      I can live without the degrading porn, that stuff is nasty and if you get off on that you need help. How... : Fred Garvin
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        You know what, I can live without it as well. I generally find it repulsive. But I'm not about to de... : seemlar
        • Here's the weird thing about free speech, you have to decide when it crosses the line between radical an... : Fred Garvin
• someone really needs to tell this guy (ashcroft) that america doesnt want his morals impressed upon them... : mohmar
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  One more thing, this is a list of items that might be banned (this was written by the pr0n industry ... : anon@syr.edu
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    No black men-white women themes um, what? what on earth could be the reason for that. : Gladiator
    • It's UNNATURAL! : assin9
    • Because conservative communities would find that particularly offensive so the mainstream porn industry... : anon@syr.edu
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    HOLY FUCK ... that is like ALL porn : wumpscut
    • its all my fav porn ;( : smdever
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    That list is TOTAL BULLSHIT. You are so out of line, it's not even fucking funny. : joejoe55
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      *YAWN* I strike you down with one link: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/prosecutin... : anon@syr.edu
      • I find it funny that would contest the list without even being privvy to it. Knee Jerk Reaction anyon... : assin9
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        great, it's a link to your source. It doesn't refute the fact that the list is bull. It's an attempt t... : Zero|DPX
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          It doesn't refute the fact that the list is bull. It's not supposed to. Provide your own link to ... : assin9
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            Where has our government said it is going to utilize that list, or any other list for that matter, in dr... : joejoe55
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              does anyone have any links to actual accurate legal info? I doubt "unless nasty" is in the statute : qrenton
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                i dont think there is any legal info... its all hogwash... or am i wrong =] : Theos
                • I think this is greatly exagerated : qrenton
                • You are very wrong: http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=2967519 :) : anon@syr.edu
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                Here's the litmus test for 'obscenity': http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/prosecutin : anon@syr.edu
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                  ohwell I live in Canada anyway .. our women are hotter and we have bigger dicks : qrenton
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                    chicks with dicks... yum... err, i mean, wtf?!?! : anon@syr.edu
                    • * B A N N E D * : John Ashcroft
                  • heh .. we refers to men thats why i used the word we after the word and : qrenton
        • *YAWN* (i'm getting quite tired) http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=2967462 The list was drafted by ... : anon@syr.edu
      • One man's list claims to be a standard for an entire industry AND the standard that a so-called 'decency... : joejoe55
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        this whole thread is POO and you all fell for it, if you read any of the links he provided you will note... : fragasm
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          Wrong, read the post from the SA forums. Watch the frontline episode about the porn industry on PBS. ... : anon@syr.edu
          • YAYA, THE GUBMINT IS GONNA GET US. Please. Develop some informed opinions, then come back. OK? : joejoe55
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            good fucking lord, now you want me to read and take trusted news from SA, head for the hills man, no ser... : fragasm
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              he posted it more eloquently in the SA forums, is all he's saying. and suggesting that people read/watch... : paper chase guy
              • it's too hard to believe to even care about honestly. the moment the govt starts doing shite like that ... : fragasm
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      if by TOTAL BULLSHIT you mean totally inaccurate, and written by the people who want to appear to be vic... : Zero|DPX
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        *YAWN* (again) http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=2967376 : anon@syr.edu
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          and I say, let 'em ban it. : Zero|DPX
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            Wow, you must be a totalitarian : anon@syr.edu
            • Start providing proof and facts besides categorical imperatives. : joejoe55
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            That's what you say. Hell, I don't to watch sports. Does that mean I would agree with the government ban... : Vis Inack
            • If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. -- Noa... : nudel
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  If too many people want it, the gov wont be able to stop it. What are they gonna do, bust down everybo... : mista mista
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    No they are going after the companies that produce porn. Watch the PBS frontline episode, it's very in... : anon@syr.edu
    • Thats such bullshit if I am a consenting adult and I want to watch another consenting adult shit and pis... : smdever
    • all that means is that p0rn wont look as good anymore, trust me, p0rn is NEVER EVER going away : mista mista
    • when is it going to be on? : qrenton
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  Well, sign me up for the police state then. I don't think people should be allowed to post obscenity (r... : Zero|DPX
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    Well yes, that 's because most of us aren't brain dead and most of us believe in civil liberties. : anon@syr.edu
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      I am hardly brain dead. And as far as civil liberties: all liberties come with responsibility. You can... : Zero|DPX
      • So in other words, you want our government to force us to do the 'right thing' right? I'm guessing you ... : anon@syr.edu
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        all freedoms come with the right to not follow them, just as you have the right to protest, you have the... : mohmar
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          all laws are moral laws. There is no way to separate a moral standard and a legal standard. You can no... : Zero|DPX
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            Of coure but all moral laws are based on specific belief systems. for example speeding kills, hence s... : assin9
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              Yes, but what makes killing wrong? It all comes from somewhere. Telling me that I cannot kill people i... : Vantage
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                the fundamental idea is to not violate another person's rights. : cot
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                  And who says anyone has any rights? The idea that someone has a right to this, or a right to that, is m... : Vantage
                  • Anyways, we'll have to put the discussion on hold, as Enterprise is about to start. ;) : Vantage
                  • I think it's obvious that humans were born with this morality. It's not something developed or learned..... : joejoe55
                  • exactly, exactly, exactly. And that's why the complaint that someone is "forcing their morality on you"... : Zero|DPX
                  • The US was founded on a basic belief that personal freedoms are incredibly important. Sure it's possibl... : cot
                  • The big deal is that this is unconstitutional. Yes, I know the constitution is an arbitrary document, bu... : paper chase guy
                  • I'm going to call on the wisdom of a dead guy to rebuke that: "The state of nature has a law of nature : spyd3r
              • A rather stirring argument for the human conscience. : joejoe55
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            no we cant kill people because it violates their RIGHT to life, not because its "wrong" even though most... : mohmar
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              Who says anyone has a right to life? Don't force your morality on me, life-righter. : Vantage
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                the constitution. : assin9
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                  A signed document makes something right or wrong? : Vantage
                  • when declared an "inalienable rights" yeah : mohmar
              • hahahahahaha : mohmar
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    You seem to like to be coddled, miss the womb much? I like the idea of being able to do whatever I wa... : cot
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      sure. I don't have a problem with that. : Zero|DPX
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        Holy shit man, you're way, way off the deep end with that. You must be trolling. : cot
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          I don't think it would ever happen, but I really don't have a problem with it. : Zero|DPX
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            you don't mind the idea of everyone around you deciding what you do with your life? you don't value y... : cot
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              we do live in a democracy you know, there is still legal process. I happen to think that if a majority ... : Zero|DPX
              • pay attention, that's not what we're talking about http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=2967522 : cot
              • you, my friend, seem to think we live in a totalitarian regime. or wish we did. : spyd3r
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    I suggest you leave America, because obviously you have no regard or respect for personal freedoms.> : Midshift
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      once the people of this country demonstrate they can use their freedom responsibly, only then will I be ... : Zero|DPX
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        ever read 1984? : paper chase guy
        • yes. And Brave New World and Animal Farm and Anthem and lots of others too. : Zero|DPX
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        You compare punishment of a child to denying the free rights of adults? Cute. People like you should ... : Midshift
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          I don't see a lot of evidence that getting older has made people less childlike. Discipline is valuable... : Zero|DPX
          • the reason children do not have the rights of adults is because they have yet to absorb the meaning of o... : spyd3r
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    the issue isn't whether its good or bad, its whether the government is allowed to make those decisions f... : mohmar
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      ah, now that's a better protest. The problem is that someone somewhere has to make the decision. What ... : Zero|DPX
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        i agree, i have what i consider to be very respectable morals and i learned them from both my parents an... : mohmar
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          I definitely think that parents actually raising their children with some sort of standard of right and ... : Zero|DPX
          • It IS in the government's interest to decide what to do here, because how each person thinks affects eve : paper chase guy
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            like the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's right? : mista mista
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              did you live back then and have a specific problem, or is it just the popular thing to do to bash any ti... : Zero|DPX
              • thats not my point, my point is that repression doesnt work. People didnt like it and changed, you are... : mista mista
          • ive looked at porn since i was in 7th grade, and I havent done anything of the sort, the fact that some ... : mohmar
    • Exactly. : princessjeni
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    you've been pushed around so much you dont know right and wrong anymore : mista mista
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      I have a very clear view of what's right and wrong. What are YOUR definitions? : Zero|DPX
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        Well lets hope the Hindus don't take control of congress, otherwise they'll make laws banning the consu... : anon@syr.edu
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          haha is there even one non CHristian in the house or senate now? : smdever
          • I will be the first athiest senator! : firebone
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        I have a very clear view of what's right and wrong. And we're so happy you feel your views should ... : seemlar
        • Exactly. : anon@syr.edu
        • way back when I was first posting on the shack I addressed this very question... the upshot is that you ... : Zero|DPX
      • You dont have to worry much Zero, the gov. is already heading in the direction you are talking about. ... : mista mista
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  I wonder if the humanimals would count.... : Vantage
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    HEH please don't drag those out again :D : paper chase guy
    • Haha, you know you love 'em ;) : Vantage
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  where did croft say 'im going to outlaw porn'? i just read that he doesnt like porn and is going to enf... : Theos
  • someone ? : Theos
• think the whole situation with banning porn is alot of bullshit...the government needs to remember that ... : Galadriel07
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  Ok, problem recognized, is anyone going to do anything about it instead of just saying that things aren'... : dra.
  • yeah i plan to tell my representative that Ashcroft has no right to impress his morals on the country, i... : mohmar
• CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! : vassili_zaitsev
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  Following all the article links to their source, you find this link: http://www.cluebot.com/articles/ : Quagmire
  • copyright OWNED by Quagmire. : fragasm
  • owned by teh quag, again : joejoe55
  • FLAWLESS VICTORY : Caboose
• This kind of thing is what you get for voting in Bush and his cronies. Or at least for allowing him t... : nudel

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• 24 on my laptop. : ZeBFFd00d
• 72 : RiNgMaStEr
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  ...107? On my Win2k box. : iceNine
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    I'm confused. Win2k, PC133 256megs, athlon gigahertz, GF2... 107 Overall, 25/30 for the other number... : iceNine
    • same here, but with 448 megs RAM, athlon 850, GF2 ...107 I'm thinking it's just for windows XP. Noti... : Teiresias
  • same here... : timmie
• 80 here. DDR NnForce 512Mb, GF2 Pro, Athlon 1600XP+ : Lunatic Angelic
• 5 hahaahahahaha, god my work computer sucks : redfive
• 150/150. : the archvile
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  I got 40 : spector
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    Hmm everyone seemed to score higher than me :( I got a GF2/75HZ 1600x1200/AMD 1600XP/256 megs ram becau... : spector
    • I got 52. I believe it may be because we're both running at 1600x1200 and they are not... lemme test t... : Vantage
• overall? 121 on both overall scores : hawkeye
• 9 : Anti_dentite
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  wtf? i have a dual proc 933 P3 with a gf2 and i got a 20. what is this measuring? : sonik887
  • it measures your willingness you run shady .exe's : eghartman
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    it's pretty heavily dependant on drivers, anything before the DETONATORXP! isn't going to score well : hawkeye
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      I'm on 23.11! It doesn't get any later than that for released drivers. Maybe it has something to do wi... : sonik887
      • yeah, that should change the score as well : hawkeye
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        the GF2 might not have 2D accelerated alpha blending. Wasn't that a buzzword feature for the GF3? : the archvile
        • no, it's accelerated (constant and per-pixel), or so the program reports in the beginning... : timmie
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  203 : Wolfanoz
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    WINNAR IS MEARIZONA BAY! : Wolfanoz
    • HAHA I LAUGH IN J00R FACE! : arizona bay
• 77 on my athlon with g3 in XP : sergio_r
• hah, i just got an error and it closed. : dra.
• so how does this alpha blending acceleration work anyway? : the archvile
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  119. Duron@856 Ti200 320ram : nomaad
  • I have the same vidcard, but a 1333 T-Bird, so I can safely assume that the video drivers and CPU affect... : the archvile
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  Is it just me or are these scores in accurate? They seem to bounce around like hell : spector
  • I just went from 40 to 52 by closing 2 IE windows : spector
• 44 points on a dual 450 in 2000 : mrnate
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  It crashed on me, im running win98... ? : kabex
  • I'm pretty sure it's a benchmark for XP. :) : SlimJim
• 70 consistently AMD 1.333 GF2 MX 32MB w/ Det 21.83 384 MB PC133 W2K : StimpyBoy-KNoB-
• * C R A S H ' D *]b : 0Wingfan
• 181... : verbatim
• your score is heavily resolution dependant... i got a 70 in 800x600 and a 34 in 1280 : zyklonbee
• OMG ITS A VIRUS~! : mista mista
• 156. Athlon 1.2GHz, 512MB DDR RAM, Gainward GeForce 3. : i am the baker
• overall benchmark was 3 : Galadriel07
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  43 on my Athlon 1600 Win XP box with nforce : Raziel
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    maybe its resolution dependant? : Raziel
    • IIRC he's using the onboard video, could be that the lowering of available system memory bandwidth is sl... : Toraz Chryx
    • IIRC your using the onboard video, could be that the lowering of available system memory bandwidth is sl... : Toraz Chryx
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  13 wtf? AthlonXP 1800+ 512mb PC2100 DDR ECC ram Radeon 8500dv : Odoyle
  • roofles : mohmar
  • points and laughs : mista mista
  • :( This is at 1280 x 1024. what the hell? : Odoyle
  • New ATI beta drivers bumped it to 33 : Odoyle
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  7 on my work machine, 1ghz p3, prolly some POS video card, tnt2 vanta or whatever...1280x1024 due to lcd... : mohmar
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    like I said, it's driver dependent, the 2d performance of nvidia cards should be fairly similar across t : Toraz Chryx
    • oh ho... : mohmar
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  fyi, it's heavily driver dependent.. 23.11 dets will give huge maximumfast scores : Toraz Chryx
  • oh yeah, and this rig (AXP 1700+/512MB PC133/GF2MX 23.11 dets/WinXP) gets 62 : Toraz Chryx
• 97 : Lawgiver
• 56 : Entity
• 99 @ 1024/768x32 89 @ 1280x1024x32 tbird 800, 320mb ram (cheap ass crap), geforce2gts. : corey
• 277 Am I doing this right? My machine is 1.2Ghz w/ GeForce2 Ultra 64MB. : arizona bay
• i got a 111 : Dante
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  BAD BENCHMARKING METHOD DETECTED : Mousey
  • #3691 - No it's doing what it is supposed to, making a measurement based on what standard windowing funct... : Carnivac
• A suprizing 30 on the dBox :) : drucifer
• which one am i looking at, overall benchmark score? : airrob
• 112 on my IBM Laptop. I'll run it on the dell tomorrow. : assin9
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  i got an illegal operation : cpt_gloval
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    Post with the wrong account? : geedeck
    • OMG : slobberpuss
• 32! P3 600, 384 MB RAM, GF2MX : MrShmoo
• 35 on my desktop:( athlon 750 with gforce2 this cant be right : supermonkeyballz
• 200 athlon 1800+ gf3ti500 512 ddr : Sniper21
• well it doesnt run on win98 : BadRespawn
• 8 on both scores : maalox
• 39 on my laptop (Radeon Mobility) : -Panther-

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• YOU ARE CORRECT. : virus
• I wish my dog was a cool as yours :( He never got trained and is rather nippy now guys. : spector
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  Is this your GF too? http://www.nourlink.com/khanpics/!gma045.jpg : spector
  • nah, my gf is blonde:) : Dobbs
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    Normally asian chicks don't do it for me, but to her I'll say "SUCK THAT COCK BITCH!" as I slap her face... : jo-papa
    • hahahahaha...hilarious, I don't like asian chicks either. My bitch is blonde and beautiful! :) : Smokes
• uh NWS and pretty fuckin gross. : Crimson
• wtf. BANNED. : kabex
• I'm not really into having animals as pets, but if your dog seems to like then i'm ok with it : mista mista
• I hate those damn things >:( : Odoyle
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  lmao, who changed the pic? : Dobbs
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    I did, after someone goatsecx'd it. anyone can, it's not a safe place to host files unfortunately. :( : cot
    • Thanks... I'll go and upload it somewhere safe I guess:/ : Dobbs
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  nourlink lets people upload over existing files, and apparently someone thought it'd be funny to fuck wi... : cot
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    actually that is kinda of funny :) : spector
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      It wouldn't be very funny if he got banned over it :( : cot
      • Nah, Steve wouldn't ban me... : Dobbs
      • nay, you can clearly see by the replies that when he posted the picture it was a picture of a cute dog, ... : Gladiator
• Your dog looks like a pussy! : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
• dare I click that while sitting in the middle of a classroom? : jo-papa
• fixed for the moment... geoshitties here I come. : Dobbs
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  http://home.indy.rr.com/joejoe55/goose.jpg : joejoe55
  • CUTENESS OVERLOAD!!!! : Wolfanoz
  • great pic... wish I had pics of our as a tiny puppy:/ : Dobbs
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  Erk.. I hate terriers.. Gimme a big ol' Husky any day! Huskies are truly the most handsome, and usef... : Vantage
  • im all over labs : radicus
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  Cool. Did you see the one that won at Westminster? Looked like his big brother. : freqq28
  • Sorry to say but we missed that portion of the show:/ : Dobbs
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  http://indeego.homestead.com/files/pregonvivo.JPG Birth au Boxer" I like to call it. : indeego
  • That's a cute pic of him peeking over:) : Dobbs
• Here's the pic again in case someone decides to mess with it: http://www.geocities.com/bendobbs/1.jpg : Dobbs
• http://pages.infinit.net/gladia8/nora.jpg : Gladiator
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  My pups :) Brutus the Uberdog http://www.dognoses.com/brutus.jpg http://www.dognoses.com/brutus2.jp... : drucifer
  • :( : drucifer
  • kinda big for pups? : BadRespawn
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  http://balder.prohosting.com/~blackmtn/timmie/ :( : timmie
  • :( : ZeBFFd00d
  • but at least j00 have kitty.jpg : drucifer