Unreal2 Shots Are Real

I dont know why ppl are saying unreal 2 are astonishing graphics, they are good, but nothing revolutionary. The only thing that i do notice is the outdoor environment, which has been done like tribes. Therfore its like combining UT quality graphics with the outdoor environment. I think thinking ppl are more astonished about the models, but those look like q3 quality models.

Why a Geforce 2? Why not a GF 3 with all the fancy crap turned on and 4x antialiasing. I just don't understend....

Not that the shot looks bad. I guess this way I can hope the game will look even better when I play it on my machine.

(which has a geforce 3 I won at a CPL event in it - yay)

I'm glad you got to call me lame , but I clearly said it was an alpha and I know what an alpha is and thats why I said "shaping up" more than once.
OK,there was a whole , yet small, stage where you interacted and fought with AI driven enemies and I was usingthe weapons that were most complete: ( I realize it was an alpha) the pistol, RL, flamethrower, assaultrifle, and the sniper rifle.Now just like with unreal one ,I thought it was lame to pull out an assaultrifle and slowly walk/strafe while unloading at and enemy...the action sucked and the game is SHAPING up to be slow paced like U1.there were plenty of effects for the weapons that I listed.The RL was on its way to being extremely lame, slow with little rainbow sparks(you have seen them in at least one released pic) flying out on the explosions.The pistol, assault rifle, and sniperrifle all seemed generic, thought the sniper scoper was pretty cool .The flamethrower should kickass because it was looking sweet in the alpha, too bad evertything else about the game made me continue to not like the Unreal series.

I know this was a n ALPHA so shhh, but they use these and other builds to make screenshots to get you to say " omg, it looks so good!". when I took a screenshot of myself playing it and then looked at the screenshot ...I liked what I saw, lots of bad games look good in screenshots..I just wish those released screenshots could show FPS ;).

Damn, it has been a while since I've read a good debate like this.

I love these threads. Flame on!

Cliff

Hmmmm lots of interesting comments here...

The new Unreal engine runs quite nicely. 200,000 polys are no problem for this engine on a good P3 system with a GeForce 2.

The Karma physics engine does support water physics and dynamics. Hopefully they'll have time to plunk that in to the engine.

http://www.mathengine.com/Files/ActorDemoV101.exe - here's a link to a demo released by Vivid Image showing off MathEngine's Karma physics in-action, including water physics. Note that the graphics engine (the lighting, geometry occlusion or lack of, etc.) is not the Unreal engine, and there are far more objects in this scene that can move than one is likely ever to see in a single area in any of the new Unreal engine games.

Unreal 2 - Single Player, maybe with multiplayer tacked on ala Unreal 1 (though should be better than Unreal 1 DM.)

Unreal Tournament 2 - Multiplayer with match-based single player game, ala Unreal Tournament. A bit more fleshed out than UT, and looks like it'll be team based oriented vs. lone gunman.

Unreal Championship - Basically UT with refined weapons, maps, gameplay. And by refined I mean 100 times more polys and a kick ass particle system. Nothing too deep, just an all out frag fest for the X-Box.

Unreal Warfare - The name used when refering to the latest version of the Unreal Engine ... but it's called Warfare for the same reason the Unreal Engine ended up being called the "Unreal" engine. I'll let you guys figure that one out.

=mungbunny=

Okay, so what are all the new Unreal games, and what platforms are they planned for? Which ones have a traditional single-player game, just Unreal 2? What's the difference between them all?

- Unreal Tournament 2
- Unreal Warfare
- Unreal 2
- Unreal Championship (is this X-Box only?)

wow this engine is going to give doom3 a run for its money

Shot looks fine. Certainly more interesting than the UT shots shown off the other day.

But at this point in time, it's a question whether the era of Counter Strike has many players left who are interested in the futuristic war genre. I suppose it's possible that market is always there, and has just gone dormant because neither Q3 nor UT were compelling enough to keep more than a small minority of the market playing for more than a year (less than 10k combined online players at any given time versus the +60k online playing CS). Maybe better products -- plus the emphasis on teamplay -- will help. But gaming tastes have changed, and the fantasy/sf-based FPS shooter doesn't look exactly healthy right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Epic's sales are smaller than last time out.

The water still looks like shit...

When are they ever going to make realistic water in a game?!

-SmArT1

no doubt the shots are real.
HOWEVER, much of the prettyness is lost once things start moving at to low a framerate.
At 30fps you just won't notice all the nice details visible in a still shot of the same scene.

Actually, the more detail is in there, the more fps you need to notice it.

we'll all be tweaking down the details so that it runs at -at least- some 40fps.
unless we want to show off how pretty it -can be-.

I think this screen looks nice. Much better than the other screens with the clown and those giant flat outdoor settings.

The only thing that doesn't look particularly good is the water .. might be nice to see a little surface reflection on there.

Unreal II just looks awesome. There is lots of detail in these screenshots which tells me lots of polys will have to be pushed around. But hey I'm not scared the Geforce will come to the rescue. :-)

Kid - Mummy, I want Unreal2, Unreal Tech, Unreal Doll, Unreal Tourney 2.5, and Unreal cereal for christmas.
Mum - No. Aren't they the same thing?

If you're going to have an Epic vs id war at least get the games right. D3 should be compaired to Unreal Warfare not U2 or UT2. UW is closer to D3 schedule-wise and feature-wise. Not to mention the fact that neither UT2 nor U2 are being made by Epic. U2 and UT2 are tweeners graphically speaking.

I figured they were real...I've played the alpha at a friends house and there are some pretty things in Unreal 2, but the gameplay is still too slow, just like unreal.The maps seem huge because you move too slow.

Unreal2 is certainly at step above Unreal and UT, but its not shaping up to be anything amazing .I felt like I was playing an unreal expansion pack with the graphics turned all the way up, I saw very few NEW things.Nice flamethrower, lame RL.from what I've seen its shaping up to be a game that offers nothing new , but pretty stages that will run slow as hell on most machines .They should hurry it up and get as much money as they can before anything else comes out.
I'll just get a better single player game to play until Doom 3. SOF 2 >:)

Augh!!! My Athlon 1.1 ghz can probably hold up it's end of the load but I am rather concerned about my Voodoo5. It doesn't look like I can replace it till this summer, when the Geforce4/Radeon3 cards become affordable. I hope it can do this game with at least playable framerates in singleplayer.

people pay tons of money for new videocards that have all of these new features and are fast. people are interested in technology, interested in whats new and what can be done that couldnt before. a lot of the time when people compare d3 and u2 its not about gameplay, its about technology. its fair to compare the two in this context imo. you dont HAVE to compare gameplay, that isnt some rule somewhere, why cant people compare what looks better, what has more features, or what runs faster. anything can be compared, so dont tell people what they can or cant compare.

The smack has been laid down. As I said... It's a bit fucking stupid to whine about a "fake" U2 screenshot because it looks "too good" - after all U1 was years ahead of it's time graphics-wise so WTF do people expect.

/me hugs epic

hahaha bitches :) If that pic is real and they took it with a geforce 2 then I am going to be soooo set with my G3 t500 :) OH YEAH BRING IT ON!!!

Why do people think this is Unreal2 Vs Doom3, fight to the death, only one can survive?

I would have thought those games arent even in the same development cycle, everyone keeps saying how amazing doom3 is graphically, and it is, but I would have thought it would be going up against the next generation of unreal engine, not this one.

best unreal2 shots are here

http://jim.be/index_site.htm?http://jim.be/html/content/games/specials/details.htm?id=32
http://jim.be/index_site.htm?http://jim.be/html/content/games/specials/details.htm?id=33
http://jim.be/index_site.htm?http://jim.be/html/content/games/specials/details.htm?id=34

All i have to say is it's about time. Finally a game that may give us that new, a game we have been waiting for feel. Hopefully this is the case cause I've been woundering why having this computer is worth it :)

ooohhh, i liek all teh pretty wild flowers!!!

Are they talking about these, too?
http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/unreal2//4/thumbs/cover2.jpg

Because while the first screenfuls of images do look believable, I can't really believe that link there is in-game.

the thing that i thought was fake with these was the lighting of the explosion. that may be volumetric lighting or something im not very familiar with. also ya, resizing from the original 1600x1200 makes it look a hell of a lot better. look at the 1600x1200 and suddenly it looks very much like something very doable with the q3 engine.
nothing too fantastic at all.

waitaminit, what kinda pc is gonna be needed to run this game? i got a 1.4ghz/512 ddr ram/geforce3 ti200

these kind of remind me of the multiplayer screenshots on the half-life box, which looked a lot cooler than anything i ever saw in the game. doesn't mean it won't happen, though...

The shots posted here are faked in that they are NOT at the original resolution. Why is there no aliasing on any of the edges? Did they have AA enabled and then take the shots at 1600x1200 and then resample down?

People who claim these shots are faked obviously haven't had much exposure to the next-gen games out there. This is how games look now. At least the ones done by top-notch developers.

I didn't think they were photoshop'd. The bad lighting proves its the unreal engine :)

I doubt it will compare to Doom when you're running them. But it's still hella pretty, I'm sure they'll both be awsome games.

I'm starting to get the cravings for this game. Damnit!

/ [V]

Personally, I would take this accusation that some of these screen shots are fake as a complement.
It is as if some people think that they are too good to be true.
How can something that looks so good, be real?
They are almost Unreal.

Some of those genuine recent Unreal2 screenshots appear to be rendered on a white background with black vector graphics.

I don't know whether I am going to like this new black and white vector graphics effect.

Yea right. And the DNF E3 video is real too, right?

Eh, just release it for XBOX :P