Q3Test vs UT Gameplay

Well, I\'d love to see a couple UT vs. Q3 reviews... the games are closely matched gameplay wise. After I got used to the \"non-id\" interface/feel of UT, I ditched Q3 test and play UT constantly. Who knows tho... I think we all know demos really only show a small fraction of a game... but damn.. UT is *sweet*! =D Uhh.. Quake what?

All I gotta say is, I\'ll be playing 2 games this holiday season :) And I think CliffyB is onto something with the minesweeper comment. I have several friends who spend *HOURS* playing minesweeper. I mean...I\'d much rather have them wasting time on UT than Minesweeper.

Josh Davis
student at UT (not Unreal Tourney :P)

Yep. I got the name wrong. LOD is the effect of the models being reduced in poly count as they get farther away from the player. My bad.

The mip mapping or whatever it is causing the blurry textures can be turned off though. I read it somewhere but I don\'t remember the cvar.

Wow! Crazy talk :)
I\'m lame - I think both games rock. I like Q3 because it\'s more cat and mouse -makes me sweat ;)
I like UT because it\'s balls out speed and action - makes me sweat!

Sweat\'n to the oldies! w00p!

BM

Hi, I\'m the guy who wrote the article. Thanks for the nice mails everyone sent me. Just to clear something up though, I wrote the article as a \"Q3Test & UTDemo Game analysis\" not a Q3Test VS UTdemo thing. I like both games and just wanted to highlight how they are actually different and so are both \"good\" in their own ways. Right now, with neither games actually released yet, saying which one is better is a bit premature.

As it is now .. UnrealTournament is superior to Q3a ..
SPEED ! makes things fun .. and q3a shows lack of speed .. and UT does not. Fix the weapons, strafe jumping, speed and rl in Q3A and I`ll reconsider which game Im gonna spend hours in front of my comp. playing.

QUAKE2 FOREVER %¤\"

Q3Test of course, duh?

A couple of pages back some people mentioned how the textures in Q3 get a little blurry as they get farther away from the player. That\'s just the Level Of Detail (LOD) at work. If it didn\'t do that the game would require way too much texture memory than the current cards have.

There IS a console command to turn that off and the textures will stay crispy even off in the distance. By early 2000 there will be cards out with 64MB\'s of ram and/or kick ass texture compression that will allow us to turn the texture LOD off.

#188 Constructive criticism is one thing, but most of these people are just \"bitching to hear the sound of their voice\" so to speak. They aren\'t being helpful, they\'re just pissing and moaning because they don\'t have anything better to do. Making a realistic AI is not exactly childs play. They\'re asking for a bot that acts EXACTLY like a real person. Well let\'s just fucking whip one up, it ought to be simple, and maybe when we\'re done it won\'t require 1gig of ram and a dual CPU system just to decide whether to pick it\'s ass or shoot...
Actually I wasn\'t referring to anybody in particular. Just anyone who has a system bigger than mine and swears UT runs like crap. And yes, it runs well on my machine without tweaking and all the options on. While we\'re on the subject, Q3 test ran fine for me without tweaking too. The only option I don\'t turn on in Q3 is lens flare. I don\'t like the feel of Q3 yet, maybe that will change.
I think the \"it runs like crap on my big bad machine\" thing for most people is just an excuse to argue that one game is better than the other.
Quite frankly half the people that said that probably filled their pants when they saw how good the games run. They just can\'t stand admitting it. Who knows.
On the issue of net performance... My connection eats total shit. I haven\'t been able to play Q2 for almost a year since my connection really went south last December. I can\'t play Q3 online either. UT I can actually play online. Not for long.. I may play 1 or 2 maps before I get DCed from my ISP, but it\'s still better than Q3 did.
Lastly, (and once again, this is to no one in particular) if I say I like one game better than the other, no one can argue with me. And if anyone thinks that what they say here will change how much I like either game they need to pull their head out of their asshole. If I like UT better it doesn\'t hurt you. If you like Q3 better it doesn\'t hurt me.
Why can\'t people figure that out?

#186 so if you can\'t make a FPS then you shouldn\'t complain about parts that aren\'t done well? I\'m sorry I missed your logic there... And I\'m assuming your talking about my post when you say the 400MHz Pentium, so I\'ll take that up too. I\'ve got no idea what you think running well is. As long as nothing much is going on... wowee it runs great. If I load up on 6 rockets I can literally count the number of frames my machine is getting. This is without tweaking. On Q3 it is always playable no matter what is going on (well, I\'ll admint I was taking a hell of a hit on the one ShackStack I went to :), without tweaking. Something just doesn\'t add up there. Unreal was even worse than UT. Hell with UT at least it takes less than a min for the level to load... slowdowns aren\'t as bad as Unreal. They\'re borderline acceptable range. Far from what I would want though...

Either way good night.

Oh and #93
Yeah it reminds me of killer instinct too. Every time someone kills me when I\'m on a streak I expect it to say \"C C C C COMBO BREAKER!!!!\"

I\'m getting sick of people saying UT runs like shit on their Cray supercomputers and shit. I have a k6 233 and a Canopus Pure3d2 12meg and UT runs great. So does Unreal as a matter of fact. If you have a 400mhz pentium and can\'t get UT to run well on it you obviously have no idea what an options menu is used for...
As for the people complaining about the way the bots are being made...
If you can program bot AI better than the people doing it for UT, then do it for them. Heck maybe you\'ll get paid?! Until you know a way to do it better and have the know how to implement it. Why don\'t you cram it? Helpfull advice is one thing, mindless bitching however is rather unnecessary.

Actually Quake wasn\'t intended to be multiplayer. SP only. People with good connections were proving multiplayer can be fun, and that\'s why Carmack did QW. I belive you can look up the story on QuakeWorld.net. QW is a Quake addon, just like GL Quake or WinQuake or whatever, not a Quake netcode patch.

Mommy, make the bad man stop! He\'s gonna make me cry!

aahhhh, you were in prison. That explains why everyone else on this planet has seen the Matrix at least twice months ago while you just finally saw it.

btw...do they have a special retard wing in prison?

Beside slander, I fucked guys like you in prison.

It\'s taks more than that to make me bust out my pimpstick.

Am I supposed to cry or something? hehe

By: LimpDick..er..PimpStick

Speaking of retards...
I happen to be one. Yup, I\'m as retarded as they come. HEY EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME!!! I like to advertise that I like to eat batter coated deep-fried ass on a stick and I download illegal warez!

By: LimpDick..er..PimpStick

Speaking of retards...
I happen to be one. Yup, I\'m as retarded as they come. HEY EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME!!!

Band camp is all about getting off! That was a good flick too...

Speaking of movies...
I just saw a movie called \"Office Space\". It was pretty funny...well, if you ever worked in an office it was pretty funny.
Also just saw The Matrix for the first time and it was very cool.
And downloaded Dudly Do-Right for the hell of it... now this movie resembles batter-coated deep-fried ass-on-a-stick.

alt.binaries.movies kicks ass!

Bow down to ME!!!!! You will all play Duke Nukem forever an like it. This is my message board, you will do as I say! My opinion is the law. Respect my authoritie!

but did he die?

this one time, i was walking around with a railgun for no reason, and this dude with a cigar just started shooting at me with a shotgun.... well, naturally it hurt, so i jumped on to a jump pad and landed on a roof of a building and waited for him, sure enough, he jumped up and I railed him...