New Console Sales Numbers

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• It's just unforetunate that your average John Q Gamer believes just aboutthing a big name corperation li... : anonsanonomous

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• The new line of analog TV sets incorporate a unique Xbox component video connection port that enables th : moz
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  It would be cool if every console had progressive scan and component out... That would be supa-fly.... : The_FrO
  • and only usefull for the US : -TKF-

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• Oh... d00d... Mac vs. PC flame wars are so much worse though... those bring out the absolute highest... : The_FrO

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  If I could afford a PS2, I would certainly buy it for that game alone... so you'd pay $350 ($300 ps2 ... : TwiLyght
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    i paid more for GT3+PS2 :-) and the best list of games for any console : -TKF-
    • I bought PS2 + extra controller + memory card + Onimusha + Crazy Taxi and reason was: GTA3! (good buy) : cannonfodder
  • people did it with the xbox and halo :D : MrShmoo
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    Yup... from what I've seen from watching my roommate play, it looks REALLY fun, and the graphics ar... : The_FrO
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      anima is so much better it aint even funny. : dra.
      • Yeah, but Yojimbo is just so damn cool looking... heh... Shiva is really cool looking too. I haven... : The_FrO
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      GT3 is cool. : Ross Geller
      • Yeah, GT3 was pretty cool, but I found it really difficult for some reason. Personally, the racing gam... : The_FrO
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    Many of us here would spend that much on a Proc and or video card just to play DOOM! : jjlaw
    • would = will :-) : -TKF-
• I love that game! : dra.

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  And what makes you think Wal-Mart aren't also the largest suppliers of PS2 and XBox? : Stormrider
  • I got both of them there : Wolfanoz
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    Because I've seen press releases from Nintendo mentioning how Walmart sells the most Gamecubes out of al... : anonsanonomous
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      Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with my question. : Stormrider
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        He/She has no clue anyway...he/she will start calling you names to make he/she look big. : Wolfanoz
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          people are realizing the Lamecube is for kiddies *AHEM* : jaga
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            yeah, but I wasn't makig personal attacks. Big difference. : Wolfanoz
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              calling gamecube fans 'kiddies' isnt an attack? strange definition to allay hypocrasy. : jaga
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                No, Im saying its mostly AIMED towards kids which Nintendo caters to. : Wolfanoz
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                  I'm 23 and have no interest in playing PC games on my television.. I happen to enjoy fun and creative ga... : jaga
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                    Im happy your 23...Since when is PS2 and Xbox a PC? They're a console. : Wolfanoz
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                      the number 1 selling game for xbox is a pc/mac game that was bought out by microsoft and published on xb... : jaga
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                        *shakes head* many of the games coming out for the xbox wont be on the PC my son. I love how all the Ga... : Wolfanoz
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                          I own a gamecube but am not a fan-boy by any means. I look at a few of the xbox titles and hope they com... : jaga
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                            I admit, graphically, the games for the Gamecube are pretty for its hardware specs but the games do noth... : Wolfanoz
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                              Then why do you need to bash the gamecube? Let it alone and let people who want to own fun 'cute' games ... : jaga
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                                Because the comments for the topic posted needed an enema ;-) : Wolfanoz
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                                  glad to know boredom is your raison d'etre : jaga
                                  • Sure why not...Now off to get dinner. : Wolfanoz
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                          because that's all there really is. If you can come up with a decent list of worth wile future Xbox rele... : anonsanonomous
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                            I'm tired of talking to a dog who's always trying to get in the last bark... a very tiny one at that. : Wolfanoz
                            • on behalf of shackers everywhere, thanks for being jackass of the day! you're a VALUABLE addition to our... : Ross Geller
                            • Well, thanks for showing your maturity. You might as well have jsut come out and said, "I GOT LAST WORD ... : anonsanonomous

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  Same here but the dreamcasts are nowhere to be found... : Bob Jones
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    You know what is silly, now everyone and their mom has a DC, you cant find any games for it now. I still... : ghost in my shell
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      I don't have much trouble finding games, I wish they would saturn them up though (start selling at clear... : freshview
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        I'm still looking for marvel vs. capcom 2 used. Hard as hell to find. : Bob Jones
        • i cant freaking Bass Fishing...i finally get the fishing controller : ghost in my shell

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• It has happened before, and will happen again. : pyrotek
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  I've heard so many people talking shit about jack, what exactly did he do so i may also bash him? : unixwhore
  • He made snide remarks about the xbox on his news posts. Almost everyone was willing to let just that sl... : Bob Jones
  • others may have been talking about jack, but i don't think our man freshview was! : Kiwi Man
• You or Jack? :] : Zoesch
• It's what the Shack is all about! :> : moz

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• you already got halo, nascar, and tony hawk 2x =P although too bad blood wake dosnet have lan play, i... : -=kodiak=-
• I found Nascar Thunder was quite good! I was shocked! : Wolfanoz
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  It doesn't have a TCP/IP stack yet, the LAN implementation is a horrid NetBIOS packetstorm that will bri... : Zoesch
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    no shit? I didnt know anything about the XBox network.. sounds horrible. I was thinking they were at l... : moshman
    • There's no real ATM support on windows (MS implementation is horrible), and BTW... most multicasts are j... : Zoesch
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    *looks at X Box SDK* Wow.. that's just not true at all. : freshview
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      Facts are meaningless! : Bob Jones
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        In your case intelligence is as well... I assume you've run a protocol analyzer besides an XBox (And ... : Zoesch
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          yeah just before I ran it on my hyperbolic fusion analyzer which you've done as well? : Bob Jones
          • You're just too much... BTW good luck in the real world with that unworldly attitude of yours... MS m... : Zoesch
    • Oh yeah? The SDK might have the support... which games are out with a full TCP/IP stack? BTW, SDK!=re... : Zoesch

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• ASk the same thing to the people who were proclaiming that Microsoft will wipe the floor with the compet... : Zoesch
• mo' money? : hal9000
• Better games for the other consoles because they would earn more money? And a boring shack at times :-) : -TKF-
• I agree... I think having 3 great consoles is a great idea because it drives the market and better games... : jaga
• we win the games to our systems! :P : MrShmoo

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  It's a handheld, not a console. It cannot be compared to consoles when talking about sales numbers, espe... : jrock
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    Gee man, you should really see a doctor about removing your head from your rectum. :) Ask any knowledgea... : protoman
    • your post is comedy! : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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      Of course its a console in its own right. but comparing it to the full on bigger brothers is a bit of a ... : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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        How? You can spend $89 dollars on a GBA and 40 bucks on a game like Golden Sun and still get 40+ hrs of ... : protoman
        • But I love the luxury of the big screens and big beautiufl rich colros and good gameplay :) heh ... : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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          That will be so cool. I forgot that if they make a metroid game for the GBA, it has to be 2d. : Bob Jones
          • They are making a metroid game for GBA and is in fact, Metroid 4. There was shitty footage of it release... : protoman
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      Yeah it counts as a platform for gaming. That's all it counts for. You can't tell me you're trying to co... : jrock
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        I'm not trying to use sales as a measure of worth at all. I'm not even trying to say which is better. So... : protoman
        • Hey you said my head's up my ass because I said the GBA is a portable, not a console and that it's fooli... : jrock

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  The fanboys must go to war. Also it's nice to see the gamecube isn't going down without a fight. : Bob Jones
  • You must be drafting already :] : Zoesch
• Supposedly the trolls were getting hungry so Jack decided to toss them a huge slab of meat. : kevin pereira
• the marketing people try to predict what the public will want, then the public tells them. I find it int... : xvdl

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• COMEDY STEREOTYPE : Bob Jones
• Holy frijoles perhaps? : jrock
• my XBOX was made in HUNGRY : jedi_27

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  The GameBoy continues to obliterate any other platform It's a handheld, not a console. It cannot ... : jrock
  • it obliterated the neo geo pocket? That was one steaming turd of a portable.... : Bob Jones
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    It's a platform for gaming. Period. That's all that counts in my book. : Ardvaark
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      Yeah it counts as a platform for gaming. That's all it counts for. You can't tell me you're trying to co... : jrock
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        cell phones and PDAs could be considered a gaming platform (they support games) and they far and away ou... : hal9000
        • Exactly. : jrock
• how does the GBA tie into the GC anyway .... I have seen picts. but what is it going ot really do and al... : Nation

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• I AM HERE! : jedi_27

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  Ah yes, me too. This game, Jet Grind Radio Future and Project Ego are the three games that could convinc... : protoman
  • Yeah dude. Have youve seen the Gunvalkrie movies? (drool) :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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    Those, also Panzer Dragoon and Shenmue II. : freshview
    • Thats the game Panzer Dragoon is what i want!! I loved the Panzer Dragoon series on the Saturn. And... : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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      Will Panzer be an Xbox exclusive? If so, then I guess I'll have to add that to the list. : protoman
      • Thats what I dont know! :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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        I think so.. aside from the Crazy Taxi franchise, all the Sega games seem to be exclusive to the console... : freshview
        • Ah yes, SC2. That game shall rule all. Way more fun that VF or Tekken, I think. : protoman
        • SC2!! (faints) in excitement :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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          ah no as far as I can tell almost all sega games will be ported to all systems.. just different projects... : jaga
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            Hmm... I don't think so.. I'm pretty sure JSRF is X Box exclusive, and I KNOW that Shenmue II is (micros... : freshview
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              I'm almost positive that Sega stated JSRF would be ported to other consoles (GCN at least), it's just th... : protoman
              • Yeah something like that :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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                I just don't see it happening. JSF still has serious slowdown issues on an xbox. It would need to be s... : Bob Jones
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                  Slowdowns must be because of bad programming : -TKF-
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                    haha Smilebit tends to push consoles to the breaking point. The original Jet Set Radio did this too. T... : Bob Jones
                    • ok lets call it bad development, some games you just want a rock steady framrate. I only played JSF a li... : -TKF-
                    • actually its the developers job to confront that problem....if there are slowdowns its the game designer... : TheTick
                • Agreed.. though.. I suppose I wouldn't count out Playstation 2 just becaus it does have some untapped po... : freshview
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            Actually Jet Set Future is exclusive to the xbox. Even if it were ported, it's built from the ground up... : Bob Jones
            • Oh I didnt know that : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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          Actually VFX is coming to the xbox and I'm almost sure the GC will get a version of virtuafighter someti... : Bob Jones
          • So true :) Jacky ownz! : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
          • Oh, cool, I didn't know VF was coming to X Box, I'll definitely be picking it up. Nothing is WRONG wi... : freshview

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  hey, I can't do too much while a build is going on :-) : Jack Mathews
  • Yeah, I use that one too. Not many people buy it anymore, man :) : kickslop

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  Actually, it isn't that hard if you think about it. Sony has built up momentum and has some great games ... : Foozmelon
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    How is the PS2 cutting edge even THIS year when the XBox and GC are newer tech? : jrock
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      Games like Final Fantasy X and MGS 2 prove that it's still cutting edge. The graphics in those games hav... : protoman
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        Hmm... Halo is a great deal of fun, I absolutely love it.. DoA 3 is probably the best looking video game... : freshview
        • I don't yet have a gamecube, but I will buy one once the "big" Miyamoto titles come out (mario and Zelda... : freshview
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  $300 x 596,000 = $178,800,000. initially, all consoles are sold at a loss. it costs sony more t... : emacs
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    I pretty much doubt that Sony is still taking a loss when they are selling the console at 300 per unit. ... : Foozmelon
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      correction- I don't think they've broke even OVERALL, I just think they stopped taking losses on the ind... : Foozmelon
      • The Design has been changed a number of times, every time they do it should mean cost reduction. : -TKF-
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      I pretty much doubt that Sony is still taking a loss when they are selling the console at 300 per un : emacs
      • Dude the gamecube and the xbox are fighting with tooth and nail right now and market share continues to ... : Bob Jones
  • Except for the GCN. : Ardvaark
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  Actually Sony AND Microsoft don't make any money off their consoles, in fact they lose money. Nintendo ... : Bob Jones
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    Supposedly making money.. I've heard cost figures at $193 and up.. I think its better to think that they... : jaga
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      If the GC is costing nintendo $193 to make, they're still losing money because there's no way retailers ... : freshview
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        The markup on a PS1 is only 2 dollars, at Best Buy its only 1 buck...so retailers need people to buy gam... : ghost in my shell
        • ah, I did not know that... I stand corrected then. : freshview
        • In denmark the markup on the X-Box is 23$. That is not much on a 470$ machine. (This is WHEN the Box la... : -TKF-
      • that was my point.. even if its less than $200 to make there are other costs to consider like retail mar... : jaga

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• True, though I bet some of those sales are based on the upcoming franchise games that won't be out for a... : jaga

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• So the DC should be obliterating both of them.... : Bob Jones

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• True, true :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---

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  or in general, just one problem, PS2 isn't the least expensive? : -TKF-
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    not sure on that, I was talking about GBA : desolate
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      Well the PS2 ties with X-Box for the "most expensive" so your theory is half wrong (still half right bec... : jrock
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        ok, I was also thinking the PS2 price drop already happened... doh : desolate
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          PS2 price drop Since when did sony announce a price drop? YTF would you drop the price when you a... : firebone
          • Well there IS going to be one. To around $240. The price drop DID already happen - in Japan. : jrock

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• hahaha : ---D1cKy-Mo3---

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  yeah :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---
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    Now as soon as the price drops I'll consider buying one. : jrock
    • My gf bought me one for X-mas. Me loves her :) : ---D1cKy-Mo3---