MoH SP Demo Impressions

Actually, I'm having the same problem with the Medal of Honor demo that I had with the RTCW demo's, every time I try to run it I get the error message that "The OpenGL subsystem failed to initialize". So I'm not exactly sure what to do. Just got a new box, AMD Thunderbird 1 gig, 256 megs ram, old Voodoo 3 16 meg though... any help is appreciated.

~Josh

IT, RUNS, LIKE, ASS.

I have a gf2mx, 1.33ghz athlon, 512meg of that fast ram stuffies, and my PC is all formatted defragged and whirling to go. Yet for some reason, I get like -25fps when I load the demo up. I think I'm actually going back in time. I think the demo opened up a wormhole in the space time continueum and the universe as we know it nearly imploded until I quit it.

All the options and detail are on the lowest possible setting, yet it still runs so slowly that it's literally, totally unplayable. I mean, gf3's are good and all, but should I have to own one just to play a game that uses the quake 3 engine, when RCTW (which looks nicer IMO) runs perfectly with my current hardware? I think not.

hopefully this is just some horrible dream, and I'll wake up, and MOHAA won't suck.

Well, hopefully it's a dream for my housemate too, who was getting even worse performance than I, as he's "only" got a p3-800.

ah well.

let's hope they get their act together, or that this demo was broken, or that something in the stars was aligned incorrectly when I attempted to play this game. otherwise this game might suck poop from the poop tree, to quote the magnanimous mr gibson

This game will be the most awesome game of all times, just finished the demo and couldn´t believe it, try the hard difficult setting, then, you will be experiencing what does WAR mean !!

2015 you RULE!!!

falcon8

pd. the final music you hear during the credits is just incredible!!!, could someone tell were to find this kind of music, well, we all know where to get mp3 music, so the question is, what kind of music is this, I mean music played during the WWII, please advise...thanks in advance

Well, I'm running this on my C300A overclocked to 464Mhz and my TNT1, and 96 Megs of RAM, and so far so good. I mean I have to use low detail settings, etc, and shrink the screen a bit, but I can play the game quite comfortably.

Very good demo I must say, up there with the Undying demo for sure. Great attention to detail (limping partners, etc) make it all the more entertaining.

I must say though, there are a few things I'd like to see changed or fixed before final release:

1. Health bar above your squadmates' heads. How can we tell how much health they have left before they die? Such things would be nice to know. As well, improve their AI so they are more proactive during fights, and also a bit more reactive by taking cover more often. Most of the time they just stand there and get hit in the arm while taking potshots and eventually wind up getting killed. Not too bright.

2. Running speed. Notice I didn't say WALKING speed, but there really isnt *that* great of a difference between the two right now. I'd like to see greater running speed because as it stands right now, running still feels too "slow"... like, if you had a grenade tossed at you, I can guarantee you would MOVE YOUR ASS the hell out of there as FAST as you possibly could.

3. Jumping. Why is it so "glitchy" feeling? Like, almost as if your character does a mini 50ms crouch before he jumps... very annoying.

4. Commands for Ally NPCs. Maybe I'm just used to playng CS and DOD, but I'd like to bark out commands in the heat of the moment to my comrades and have them take positions and actions as required. It would definitely add a notch to the interactivity...

5. ... Speaking of which, interactivity with the game environment, aside from manning machine guns, is fairly absent. I'd like to be able to flush that toilet, open that cupboard, use that mirror.

6. The level design and texture use is great but I can't help feeling that most of these "burnt out" houses feel more like cardboard cutouts, almost like background stage props in a theater play. DOD has some great levels featureing great looking bombed out houses... 2015 should have a look at these and improve upon them.

7. Respawning Nazis. Ok, I get the point that they are supposed to be reinforcements, but I mean come on... I think once you've cleared a section, it should remain clear until you've progressed further into the map... and I don't mean every 10 feet.

8. The Weapon sounds. The environmental/bullet whizzes/ambience is great, but as for the weapons, overall I am a tad dissapointed. They just don't seem to pack enough "punch" - not enough low end... they need more bass. And no, I don't have a shitty sound system, my Altec Lansing speakers with seperate subwoofer do the job just fine... its just that the weapon sounds in CS and DOD are much beefier sounding. I mean, just listen to the AWP from CS... now THAT is what I call power; you can feel it just by the huge "BOOM" it makes.

9. Explosions... they are weak to say the least. I would think a grenade would produce a much greater fireball, and shrapnel to boot (that is the point, isn't it?). Same goes for the rocket launcher... it needs a much greater impact explosion.



Anyways thats it for now, it really is a great game... if they were to fix these things it would definitely be one of the best the industry has seen in a LONG time... if anyone from 2015 is reading this, please consider these points as constructive criticism. Just a little more tweaking and MOH will be king of the hill.


mC.

Is my friend the only one who thinks the models look constipated? Specially the 3 dudes in the starting part that come to talk to you...I could of swore one was gonna drop a load and the other guy was gonna get all child's play on me. Realism? Heh...

i can't get the demo to launch. it starts up with the quake console, then resizes the screen to 640x480, then i'm sent to a grey screen with a cursor pointer. nothing happens after that. it just sits there.

i added "+set logfile 1" and it's writing a log file. seems to end at the GL extensions for my geforce ddr card. like the game totally locks up. doesn't lock up my system, though.

anyone else seeing this problem?

This game is great, a really good alternative to RTCW if you prefer a more realistic slant on war. Still, I say get both when MOH is available :)

What I loved most about the game was your comrades. It was so cool to start with a buddy, and then meet the others shortly after, and to have them fighting alongside you throughout. It was also nice that they could take care of themselves fairly well. Admittedly, they did stand in some stupid places sometimes, and I don't understand why they didn't pick up health, even if I had full health myself, but other than that, they were pretty convincing. I've always wanted to see good NPC helpers in an FPS game, and I think MOH has really succeeded in making the world more alive by adding them. No longer did I feel that it was just me against the game, it felt like I was part of it, not just a one man army.

I'd really like to see the team element expanded though. I felt, at times, like we weren't really working together, I was doing all the important stuff whilst my buddies just helped clear out the enemy on the ground. I'd like to see AI in future games be able to go off and do stuff by themselves, like perhaps a squadron could split up and the other part would actually be doing stuff, rather than just vanishing for a bit, at the moment, games centre too much on the player, which can take away a feeling of immersion. If the characters around you aren't able to act in the same intelligent (or unintelligent :) manner as you, it feels a bit odd. Still, MOH was fairly good here.

One of the other things that blew me away about the game was the way there was so much going on. I was doing that thing where you start to physically react to the game environment at times - especially near the end, I was trying to duck the shells from the big cannons, and getting scared as the rockets exploded around me. I think the sound was probably a major factor in the immersiveness, it sounded very meaty in general and I didn't question its believablity at all.

mr_flamey

I know that one of the 2015 guys used to frequent/post around here.... just like to say hats off to you - if the rest of the game missions are like the demo mission, you guys got a hit...

I wish every fps game would incorporate location damage on the model. soldier of fortune did an excellent job. it makes killing a bad guy fun and not repetitive

What cool things did everyone notice on the AIs behavior. I threw a grenade in the midst of a bunch of enemies and one of them actually dove on the grenade while his team mates ran for cover. I thought I was seeing things... this game is so cool.

Great demo, just one complaint...
Um...how come I can unload on my allies and they don't die, I mean they are literally invulnerable. I shot that gangly crew up with about 8 Panzerfaust shells, unloaded a few clips with the CAR, sniped them in their domes. And when I ran out of all my ammo I even beat them severely about the face and neck with my trusty pistol. Oh sure they flinch and stumble but um, who said this game was realistic?

I really enjoyed this demo. I was already planning on buying it, and this just made me look forward to it even more.

There does appear to be a bug that causes frame rates to crash, though. It's happened to me twice now, too. When I exit the game after the frame rates drop to 3, it gives some sort of allocation error message on the start-up window thing. Of course, I don't remember what it said. I sure hope this isn't a problem in the boxed version.

Damn, i think the cheat code (as in programming) has been taken out, after playing it on hard, and it just rocks!! btw, i wanna have some fun...

Even the spdevmap dont work :(

The MOH demo was ok. Multiplayer was quite fun until you realise that the bazooka is quite quite broken. There is no good reason to take anything else, if your a good shot, because A) It is one hit, one kill, and doesn't have any back blast that you have to worry about. You really don't need a second reason, when over half the people in the map start using the damn thing, you know something is wrong.\

I don't really see why everyone is all happy with this I didn't find the map that much fun, the omaha beach map would have been fun.

The graphics overall weren't that high caliber, the weapons models weren't that detailed and the overall textures weren't as high as we've come to see from Max Payne or RTCW. The dirt and sun light effects were cool though.

The gameplay sees alot like DoD which is fine, but I prefer a less realism, like RTCW.

I'll still probably get this game since I have virtually every fps ever made but from this demo I can say that RTCW owns it.

Ok, I've noticed that running with 16 bit textures (even if your overall bit depth is set to 32 bit) helps immensely on my 32 meg GF2. People having performance issues may want to try that. Apparently there's a pile of textures in the game, so much so that storing them all in 32 bits on a 32 meg card may be a little much.

Anyway, the MOHAA:SP demo laughs and points at the retarded MP demo...tapes signs to it's back, and kicks it when it's not looking....

It's really a different game from RTCW...no zombies, ferinstance...MOH feels more realistic than RTCW...plus, I like being able to stagger the Nazis in MOH...
As far as the weapons and combat go, it's like the difference between CS and HL...MOH being CS...
The enemy AI seemed smarter when fighting in MOH, but the Wolf dudes were smarter about awareness
<BANG> RTCW:"Hey, is that someone shooting up all my buddies? Maybe I should run to the alarm?"
<BANG>MOH:"Hey, the MG guy got sniped...it took 3 shots, because he was partially covered by the MG42 and sandbags...Let me run over there to the gun..."
<BANG>MOH2:"Hey, that guy who ran over to the MG42 because the gunner got sniped, got sniped too...Lemme run over there to the gun..."
I really did like the house to house stuff, and the little mini-trenches next to the rocket launchers...

The SP demo may have changed my mind about MOH...After checking out the MP demo, I had decided almost certainly not to buy it...But now...I might...

AxeMan808
(Oh! *LOVED* the trees!)

I think one big difference, for me, between this game and RTCW is the feel and the sound of the weapons. The weapons just feel "beefier" than RTCW, and the sound fx helps to create weapons that just feels badass when you fire it.

This game really gives that WWII feeling to the player, everything at max and it looks awesome, i am gonna buy this game so PLEASE release it in europe and the us at the SAME time.

Could have been the best FPS of 2001 :-)

Impressive. Very impressive.

All of the scripted sequences felt solid, and kept the game moving. Watching the enemy AI hid behind walls and such was fantastic. Actually, I wish my teammates would have been a bit smarter at times ;) They would take cover and such sometimes, but by the time I got to the church I was by myself. War is hell though, eh?

Gunfire sounds, and weapon feel was very good also. A German grunt would truck across the screen, and I would pop him with the Springfield, switch to the Thompson, and jump into a building for cover with more enemy fire buzzing past me. Very immersive. 2015 has my money on release day.

Over a really fun game. Running at 32bit color really slowed things down but once you switch to 16 you can crank all details up and the game won't chug a bit. Personally I can't tell the difference but I'm kind of colorblind.

Your squad's AI is decent and get's the job done most of the time until they repeatly cap you in your head while you try to snipe or stand infront of you when you are desperately trying to destroy the halftrack with the panzer frost. It was nice to see that when they're smart enough to find cover most of the time. Hiding in buildings, craters, behind rubble etc.

Some of the parts of the game that really got me was how simple it played and how dynamic the action felt. I played the demo many times and it always turns out different. It's cool to see peoples help get shot of if you cap them in the head (but they don't die which is a bit distracting) or the enemies fire wildly around when you stun them with your thompson and small details like that I haven't picked out yet.

Somethings that distracted me are the smoking car rubbles and the trees. You can see enemies standing behind a car through the broken windshield but you can't kill them and they seem to have xray vision when hiding behind bushes. Oh yeah your team is made out of ironmen on crack, they have insane amount of healthy to compensate for their stupidity at times.

On respawning it seems like there is limited respawning if you don't rush inside buildings to clear them. For example if you rush that house in the town where an insane amount of nazis come out from right away all you fight is a soidler and sniper upstairs but if you capture the gun post across from it tons of guys will suddenly spawn before your eyes ready to be slaughtered.

Overal a great game... oh yeah the AI doesn't throw grenades much.

Have a P4 2.2 NorthWood..1 gig rdram GF3 Ti 500, blah blah blah. Anyways, didnt see no slowdowns. I just did the 1280/1024 res all stufff on. I really like the surround sound though.

this could be the game that makes me upgrade my computer.

and that's quite an accomplishment.

nice work 2015.

it was pretty cool. the random spawning sucked though. but my medium-ish computer was sucking at 8x6 with almost everything on.. but 16 bit textures, and no shadows. mmm about 15 fps!

Nice AI, very impressive!

A teammate of mine rounded a corner, walked through a door, and there's a Nazi right in front of him. He didn't shoot, instead, he raised his rifle, and decked the Nazi on the head with his rifle butt!

I couldn't believe what I saw...

Geezus I love this. Just got past the tiger tank, and am now getting killed by an apparently endless tide of germans.

I like the idea of spawning enemies if you're just sitting in one spot (hello, its wartime, you're fighting dozens upon dozens if not hundreds of soldiers) . Hopefully the spawning triggers get 'turned off' as you pass checkpoints though. Because it would be annoying to having a stream of germans pour in behind you. Come to think of it, i wonder if they turn off the spawning after you've 'taken' a building ? ie killed the germans and walked through the building.

just found an amusing bug, when you shoot your squadmates they get knocked backwards, if you get behind them they still get knocked backwards so they fly toward you it looks really goofy.

eh, it's okay.

I wasn't blown away or all that impressed by anything.

I'm really interested in WWII history and I like both realistic and not-so realistic games and others in between.

I suppose it's possible I'm finally tiring a bit of FPS games after playing every decent one since the original Wolfenstein.

is there a way to turn off the beginning screens, especially for the multi demo?
10 seconds of waiting i don't want to wait thru. :(

Very fast server download for the demo, I was getting it at around 550kbs!


http://www.techimo.com/moh/single.html

Woah, this was pretty damn good. Played on medium, and it was pretty challenging, though I think some of that was the respawning enemies, which was kinda annoying.

The teammate stuff is great, good AI, they can take fairly good care of themselves, they follow you, hang back, duck into buildings or behind walls when under fire etc. The enemy AI also was good, you see them peering around corners, just sticking their gun around and firing off a few blind shots.

The changing environment stuff was done well. Graphics and sound were excellent, although the fog seemed very heavy, perhaps that was because I couldn't change that setting due to menu crashing problem I had.

That was the major problem I had, the menus crashing the game. I couldn't actually change any options in the game, I had to edit the config just to invert the mouse. Had a couple of in game crashes, seemed to be something to do with sound playback, not totally sure.

On the whole, well worth grabbing for those with fast connections. Modem people may want to wait until it is on the cover of the magazine or whatever. Think I'll be picking up the full game when it comes out.

40 minutes left. Well, I really *REALLY* hated the MP demo and from what I've seen the SP demo might actually be exciting. Gonna have to wait and see though. They made q3 look like shit in the mp which is sad. :( Best engine imho.

fuck awesome, awesome, awesome game. And for once the music totally owns me. Damn.

I fired this thing up, and hey it was pretty damn neat. Loved the weapons, great enviroment, the only downside was the lack of a HUD to tell you the status of your team, cuz its kinda annoying to think one of your team members is dead and then realize he is just slow, otherwise great game, can't wait to buy it. Also the textures could use a little work (had all settings maxed @ 1024x768).

OK, here we go...

I ran at 1280x1024, everything on max...

The game ran really smoothly. A few areas with texture problems, but not that bad. Nothing else to say...

The gameplay I liked: The weapons were quite reactive and produced the effect on your aim you would expect. This impressed me the most. I liked the 'team' style play also, it took me a few minutes to realize what was going on :) , but I adjusted quickly.


Things I didn't like: Explosions could be a little better, very lack-luster. The enemy seemed a little too predictable, I could easily figure out the areas they were hiding in and react accordingly (I know its a demo...). Also, after getting shot a few times, you should slow down, or fall down or something...I dunno, if they are going for realism, taking 5 or six bullets and still being able to move normally doesn't quite seem right.


All in all, I liked it. I will be buying this game.