Got An X-Box? Looking For One?
by Jack Mathews, Nov 15, 2001 8:43am PSTNo comments from me on the X Box stuff really, since my bias seems to rile people up. I'm just mostly starting this story for two reasons... One - To gauge peoples' impressions of the X Box and the games from the people who have bought it and... Two - To gauge the availablity. After all of those rumors of X Box shortages, are they panning out to be true? Impossible to find? Are people getting their preorders. Then click the comments and let everyone know. Other launch chatting can still be done here.
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#397, Dead or Alive 3 has much more fluid animation than Tekken 3. The proof is in the coordination between characters on throws, counterthrows, and holds. The balance, weight distribution, center of gravity, and points of contact all feel right. The Tekken series feels ludicrous and sloppy by comparison. Tekken hides sloppy contacts with speed of fighting. The only thing that even comes remotely close was the Japanese import of Tobal No. 2 (never released stateside). The animation in DOA3 is much more complex than anything I've seen in any other 3D fighting game. Lots of interlocking animations either between two characters or between a character and the environment. DOA3 also has some of the most gorgeous environments I've seen on any system.
Halo, is a great FPS. I'm sure it isn't the best looking FPS. That's okay. It looks good. More importantly it plays really well. Very good Team AI for both friends and foes and the warthog (jeep) is a great addition. It pulls you into the story in just the right ways. Felt like Goldeneye and Half-life all over again. More fun than most PC shooters I've played recently. And I love the 2 player coop adveture mode. More games need this!
I can heartily recommmend that anyone who plays on an XBox controller either buy a MadCatz controller or import a Japanese XBox controller when they're released. The Interact controller is a piece of crap. It's even bigger than the MS XBox controller, and the joystick isn't as sensitive. The Mad Catz controller is just a bit smaller than the standard controller and has better button placement. The japanesee MS controller feels like the American XBox controller crossed with the gamecube controller. It has easier to raech buttons that are in a better configuration and the overall size is much smaller. Been using one at work with Halo and it feels sooo much better.
Games I'm looking forward to on the XBox: Wreckless (aka Double Steal), Have a Mice Day, Jet Set Radio Future, Shenmue 2&3.
And yes I'm platform agnostic. I've been playing a lot of GTA3, Ico, and Devil May Cry on the PS2. I'm looking forward to Rogue Leader, Pikmin, and Super Mionkey Ball on the Cube. And I'll probably pick up AvP2 on the PC.
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GEEZUS.
Halo is....
... breathtaking.
Bye!
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The pad sucks.
Halo is great.
The pad sucks. The pad sucks. The pad sucks.
I will say one thing: I downloaded the video clips of DOA3 and I must say the fighting moves in Tekken3 for the PlayStation were much smoother and more flowing in execution than the pathetic, unnatural ones executed in the video clips shown in that article. The space of time between moves and the, IMHO, fairly-lousy collision detection between characters was disturbing. Even more-so that they would put in a slow-motion camera effect so you could CLEARLY see one character not quite touching the other character as he body slammed them. That seems kinda self-defeating - (if your characters are blockier than their textured skins, or they have poor collision detection between them, you probably want the game as fast-paced as possible so it's harder to notice.)
Now before you make excuses for the game, let me finish what I'm saying:
The characters themselves when they are just standing around are all flowing and their hair moves and all that other happy bullshit, yeah that's great but you know what; none of that matters worth a damn when the point of the game - the fighting styles, moves, etc - looks lame as hell.
Out of the three consoles that matter these days (X-Box, GameCube, and PS2), I think I will end up buying a PS2 after all because it has (and apparently is going to have) a BUNCH of kickass looking games (and ones that are out already that are KNOWN to be good), instead of either of the new systems.
Why: Nintendo has never piqued my interest. They always have lame-ass looking games, with a very few that interest me. Could be why I've never owned a Nintendo console (I had an original GameBoy way-back-when.) And now the X-Box has some pretty sorry-looking games at its release.
Consoles I've owned in the past: Sega Genesis, 32X, and a Sony PlayStation. Consoles I own right now: NONE.
It appears the PS2 is finally getting some interesting games, and heck, at least there are a bunch of good fighting games available for it (right? I hope so?) compared to what-looks-to-be a lame-ass DOA3.
I remember the DreamCast had a couple badass fighting games. What's wrong with MS? Maybe they worry too much about eye-candy and not enough on some originality and stylish fighting styles and moves.
Now maybe some of you buy fighting games to stare at the scenery and flowing character hair, but I tend to buy fighting games to FIGHT. I must say I still look back fondly on Tekken3. The drunked boxer dude in that game (whose name I can't remember right now) was MUCH more stylish in his moves than the Brad Wong character they showed in two of the video clips at FiringSquad.
All in all, I'm QUITE underwhelmed at the games released with the console (having viewed clips of Project Gotham, the NFL game, DOA3, and some CoolBoarders-type game). The HALO videos weren't bad, but I have AvP2, Q3A, and will probably get RTCW and GhostRecon for my PC so why do I need to spend $300 for one decent-looking FPS game on a console? Not only that but FPS games are almost-always done better on the PC, they are much easier to play, what with more buttons and a mouse/trackball available for smoother, easier navigation and fighting.
Ah well, at least I won't have to spend $300 right now on an X-Box. Maybe in a year from now when the games have matured and there is a reason to buy it (kinda like what I'm contemplating doing for the PS2). Right now the only reason to buy one appears to be to resell it for a nice profit. Or to stare at scenery and wavy hair.
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-J
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From my understanding, the PS2 sold out, not only because people wanted them...but because they were short....
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**Make your own joke up about that :) **
The message also told me the DVD playback kit was not going to ship with the rest of it due to circumstances beyond their control. Ship later at no extra expense stuff....
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PS2 was sold out the day it came out.
MS has lost htis battle. Sony is teh winnar!
that is...until Nintendo unleashes nuttosity this weekend.
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One thing is for sure, I SHUDDER imagining this thing on on a athlon 1800XP + Ti500 calibre card or higher. Make no mistake you'll need one hell of a NINJA graphics card to get these kind of visuals at 1024x768. Bump mapping should be a REQUISITE for shooters from now on. Fabulous. Thinking about playing CTF or something on some of the actual SP levels makes me weep with excitement.
fuck xbox
fuck bungie
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OMG DOA3 IS sweet, Halo looks great so far, although i'd prefer a mouse / keyboard
the sound and voice acting are top notch. Oddly enough the game i spent the most time
in so far was oddworld it turned out to be pretty damm cool with really great sound
and voice acting as well. So far it looks damm sweet. Myself i'm sticking with my PC.
I can't wait until they realese the PC version of Halo, hopefully it should look and
run pretty good on my TI500.
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Great demo...of a not so good game :\
most of the mini-games require far too much skill for a party game, the colors seem hard to tell apart (you lose yourself), the mini-games just aren't "fun" as party games should be
nice try though, and it's pretty
I keep trying to tell her that since I don't have a PS2 either (I was a dreamcaster, until they sold me up the river), this situation needs to be remedied quickly.
ay! And get your bitch ass back in the kitchen and make me some Halo-shaped pie!
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Very fun, SIMPLE game. This is the kind of game you will enjoy while your high. Non-gamers will like this game (though they'll get bored with it kinda fast). Its very simple, very mindless. You cant play it for 8 hours straight, but I think it'll be a blast to whip out for 4 player action.
I probably should stop reading reviews. I went in thinking this game would be crap but it turns out to be a trip.
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Shit, I'm beginning to think renting this thing was a BIIIIIIG mistake. :/
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o DOA3, quite possibly one of the best fighting games, period. Graphics are stellar and it was liquid smooth, very fun multiplayer game.
o Halo - What can I say? Finally the game has lived to the hype (so far). The graphics are very good, especially the outdoor scenes, and once again the 5.1 sound is amazing (Love them subwoofers)
o Oddworld.. Well.. Odd. I need to really get more of this game in, I played it very little so far so no real comments other than the graphics look good and the sound was great.
The one little tidbit that I havent seen mentioned alot was the menu system on the Xbox, simply amazing. Intuitive, flashy. That said, I've gotta try DVD on it now.. More later.
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I actually have Cel Damage but havent played it yet. when my roomate gets back we'll DM a little.
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Halo rocks.
great storyline.
great outdoor graphics.
good controls.
DOA3:
models could look better but when I connected it to HDTV
oh my god. difference is just incredible.
xbox is finally a reason to buy an HDTV.
overrall I would rate the whole thing as SOLID.
no crashes. no bugs. no major annoyances I saw.
5.1 Dolby Surround is incredible definitly better sound than PS2.
PS2 looks like POS compared to xbox on HDTV. regular TV masks
PS2's low resolution while xbox really shines on HDTV.
overall I'd rate xbox and ps2 dead even.
PS2 has better reputation.
xbox has better features. surround sound and HDTV support make it
incredible.
if nothing really horrid happens with xbox I can see PS2 squeezed by next christmas.
xbox packs just too much punch graphic/sound wise.
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GREEN SCREEN OF DEATH'D
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Other than that im getting one of these. A co-worker who basically is a saving-money kinda guy. Had no intention in buying any consoles. Hes never owned a console since the NES. because he wants to just save his cash. Saw the Xbox got to play HALO. He walked out and is getting one right now. ha. Thats comedy.
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Halo co-op: Absolutely rules!!
DOA3: Basically a very pretty DOA2
Gotham (2 player split screen): Basically a kinda pretty MSR
NFL Fever: Graphics were awesome! More impressed w/ the players than the DOA3 characters. Didn't think it played as well as NFL2K2 or Madden 2K2. I think we completed 90% of our Hail Mary's.
So far a good amount of fun, but to be honest I'm still more excited about getting my Cube...
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It's no secret that to many of us, the only game worth getting would be Halo, and that'll be released soon anyway...
Besides, Wolfenstein will be out next week!
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In secret of course, can't let the kids see it. :)
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He's not a happy camper at the moment =( Bought an XBox and like 5 games, and the unit is flaking out on him =(
-Xian
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DOA3 IS UNBELIEVABLE TOO. the graphics in both games is very good. the vastness of the levels in halo is awesome
-Xian
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i still want a PS2... for MGS2 GT3 GTA3 etc... gimme a good reason to change my mind :D
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best buy didn't even get their shipment yet (sounds kinda fishy to me)
wal-mart didn't have shit and the electronics department was deserted
EB sold out their preorder XBOX's, and had GC's only for preorders
gamestop was all sold out / pre-ordered out
media play had a GC running a demo of luigi (the cube itself is really small!) but didn't have shit
oh well... i wasn't expecting to get anything anyways.. heh
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xbox with controller and wires!
http://pacific.photoisland.com/sessions/25011393400/7870603.jpg
and yes I know someone posted the ebay auction already...but the seller just updated with that pic...i think...
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pull a T and plug her in!
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I'm just thinking back to the PS2, where its games at first launch weren't super spectacular, but look at it now.. GTA2, MGS2, GT3 all make the first launch buy more or less worth it.. perhaps less if you're one of those tools who payed > $600 on ebay
Unless HALO is absolutely fantastic and I just haven't noticed yet...?
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