WindowsXP Launch Day

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  I wouldnt say more stable than win2k, Ive had a few system lockups after quitting quake3 arena games. bu... : tension
  • Just because q3, or any other 3rd party app dies on you doesn't mean the OS is unstable. I ran 2k and XP... : TikiGawd
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  faster than 2k my ass. : Sludgehead
  • F you haven't used 2000 and XP on the same pc then you can't argue against me or You don't know how to Tw... : EvilAsh
• amen evilash... btw im goodash. "good, bad...im the man with the gun" : RiNgMaStEr
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  XP sucks my balls on my computer (dual p2-450, 512 megs ram). Win2k runs like a charm. XP is defin... : The_FrO
  • our pc has issues my friend. : EvilAsh

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  standard response from someone who has done zero research on WPA : redfive
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    Yup. It's not so bad, and it's only in there because so many "wareZ-pirates" think they're cool because ... : V0lk
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      No it isn't. They knew that the warez kiddies would find a way around it. They did it to try to stop c... : pyrotek
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        yes - the businesses are the ones that will be fux0red by this, not the warez kiddies like me who downlo : Raziel
        • but they say the authorization takes only a second. And most businesses are on a fast connection so it ... : ZeBFFd00d
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          Businesses are given a "corporate" edition that does not require registration... : Lynn Minmei
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            you mean OEM's, right? : Raziel
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              no, businesses can buy the Corporate Edition which doesn't have activation. It's different from the OEM... : afty
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                It's the one people warez, also, which suggests (to me) they didn't do this for piracy reasons at all : fcuk
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                  Yeah, it doesn't really stop "warez", just casual piracy. : Stormrider
                  • Yeah like putting your one copy you bought on a room full of machines. They must really hate that : fcuk
    • Anyone who will warez'd it already has, using corp edition, a month or so ago, so this never effected th : indeego
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  Slower=no Memory Hog=yes But with memory being so cheap, what's the big deal? I got 512MB of ... : LOD-Glock
  • true. Hell, compared to Win 3.1, Win 95 is considered a "memory hog". : V0lk
  • im using winxp with 128mb of ram. its a good os overall, but i have to reboot once every 2 days. i need m... : cubed
• so tell me, whats the weather like up your own ass? : ZeBFFd00d
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  Get your head outta yer ass... you won't have to re-authorize unless you change more than 6 pieces of ha... : Lynn Minmei
  • if you change your nic you have to reauthorize right after you reboot i beleive. : tension
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  "WinXP is pure concentrated evil." Thats pure concentrated stupidity. If you get any stupider you will c... : Grigory
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    Wake me up when I can have symbolic links in Windows, wake me up when I can have multiple virtual instan... : Zoesch
    • what about all your hate and jealousy? Are you a linus fanboy, comrade? : Grigory

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• my xp looks prudy and its faster that 2k thanks. : tension
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  1. The == is a boolean QUESTION in C, not a statement. 2. Sure, Linux looks much better than XP. Here, y... : Grigory
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    Woah, so you base your machine performance on how the GUI looks? sad : Zoesch
    • no, I don't. The sucker I answered to does. I base my opinion about an OS on how easy it is to handle. N... : Grigory

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• Look-and-Feel Lawsuit, Round Two! FIGHT!! : the archvile
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  doesnt look like a mac to me... http://www.ushells.net/~tension/background.jpg : tension
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    where'd you get that start button changer? Quake 3 good game : Adrenaline
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      go to tgtsoft.com, they have a program that hacks the ms themes dll so that it can use visual styles not... : stiki figgaz
      • yep it was through that tgtsoftware + reshacking. and i changed the start button text by hacking explore... : tension
• Note... MacOS 9 to be specific and the icons are straight of MacOS 8.1 : Zoesch

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• Then your first born's first born will be sent to Mars to work in the Microsoft mineral mines for 10 yea... : frosty

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• xylophone puntang xenophobe poppieseeds : TheTick
• eXPierience : ~mongoloid~
• eXPloitation. Was there any doubt? : the archvile
• XP looks like the greak letters chi - ro. Which sounds like Cairo which was the codename for NT 4. : stiki figgaz
• eXPensive : booyaka

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  villager has it : cubed
  • How do you know the difference between corporate and professional? Is there a difference other than no ... : horizon

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• duh... my sblive5.1 platinum works fine. worked fine straght off. : corey
• use the default XP ones, I think... just today there was a Windows Update, er, update for the 2601 WDM d... : Postal
• run windows update : ariakaz

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• I do not feel the excitement. : Cheesedog_3:16

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• XP does allow you to create MS-DOS Boot Floppies. That is about it's limits : Cless
• There was Windows 2000/XP drivers for Voodoo line a week ago. : MarksmanX
• I had this thing working with W2k... But I upgraded to G3. : vertigo235

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• I've had XP since October 2000... : StuMan8424

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  http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=448287 : [andromeda]
  • it isn't his, so why should he care? : the archvile
• Atari 2600 Build'd! : Wolfanoz

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• If I were them I'd want to pretend it never existed either. : Stormrider
• ME should have never existed. : firebone
• the bastard child of the Win9X family. : the archvile
• i still get better fps (+30-40%more) in win98se, and im switching back to it soon. : aptus

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• Still a little bit more. Explorer for example usually hogs up 20 megs on me instead of 10 : fcuk
• Fuck me with a stick, 57 megs? I know that memory is cheap nowdays, but there is no excuse for that. ... : parker

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  Uh. Dude. XP IS their next consumer release. Also, read my post below for reasons to upgrade if you have... : Foozmelon
  • maybe he meant the one after xp. : cubed
• If you upgrade to XP you get a prettier interface and some bundled apps. It's pretty nice actually! That... : belzebutt
• I had the itch and I made the jump.. DON'T F'ING DO IT. I reinstalled win2k after three weeks of XP usa... : robmiller
• better interface, better media support, amazing hardware support of course, if you are hardcore into ... : aptus

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  do you miss cleartype? :\ : dodob
  • With a 21" CRT from SOny, I couldn't notice a damn difference. : indeego
  • fuck cleartype : robmiller

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  for the sake of the country and the planet, get rid of win98. please. do it for the children. :) pa... : mattleexbox
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    But why is it good? What compelling reason, once again? "For the children" isn't good enough because I... : dognose
    • cleartype. If you dont care about that, don't worry. But it has made a world of difference for me. ... : Raziel
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      boot time is significantly improved (near instant on some new machines), cleartype rocks, windows media ... : mattleexbox
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        boot time isn't any faster, you get to see the desktop faster but still can't do anything any faster tha... : .spanky.
        • The integrated digital photo manipulation and cd burning software sucks. I don't know. I've burned ab : 0Wingfan
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        I think we have pretty much come to a majority consensus on the Shack that the new Media player is ass i... : jidar
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          Yeah, it's still ass but an improvement over 7 at least. : Stormrider
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            Can you on the fly drag and adjust the size of the video display? : jidar
            • You have to select "fit to window". : Stormrider
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  Hmm, I've got 2 Win98 boxes on 24/7 and I only need to reboot every week or so...although my linux box r... : Ttocs
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    It is a bit of an exageration if you're talking about a well run system. If you take reasonably good car... : jidar
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      A week doesnt push it if you have not installed anything new in that week. I find I do require a reb... : Morgin
      • I tried installing 98 and, when that failed, ME on a machine. I simply could not get very far (in one : 0Wingfan
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  just build your own machine.. put whatever OS you want on it : LightningBoy
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    Yeah that's probably what I'll have to wind up doing to avoid an XP purchase, but why is that the only a... : dognose
    • Why wouldn't you want XP? *cheesy microsoft smile with sweaty balmer-esque armpits* : firebone
    • Switch "PC" with "Machine" in that... or I'll get suggestions to buy a Mac or a Sun box. : dognose
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      you can theoretically order a new pc without windows on it, dunno how hard it is to actually get one tha... : .spanky.
      • Dell, for a while at least, would install Linux on new PCs, but you still had to have Windows on it as w... : dognose
• I use Win2k for development reasons, but I'm very happy with it. I see no compelling reason to upgrade t... : x-eyd|mary

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• something tells me that it'll be updated soon. : the archvile
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  that page is so full of shit, just have hidden files enabled and you see them all...oooooh so evil.... : ghost in my shell
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    if you read the article, there are files that don't appear after you enable "show hidden files" : .spanky.
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      Yeah, those you need to uncheck "hide protected operationg system files" : Stormrider
      • ...operating... : Stormrider
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        but even then, you can't browse into the IE caches of other users in NT4 and Win2K; you'll just see the : the archvile
        • well under XP when your the administrator it takes a dump when you try to use non-certified drivers ;-) : ghost in my shell
• That is funny shit. I can't wait until some poor loser believes it. : Trilinear

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  I think that should be the retail price of it. I would buy it for that. $400 CDN, uh no : redfive
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    OMG. That much money is a mighty good reason to warez wait. Paying 400 dollars for an OS is just far too... : protoman
    • I think they would cut down on pirating a large amount if they lowered the price of it. In fact I think... : redfive
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    You can get the full version of WinXP Pro from mwave (must be purchased with hardware of some type) for ... : Quagmire
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      that's not full version though, I think MS should discontinue upgrade versions since upgrading overtop a... : redfive
      • Looked like the full version to me. It certainly didn't say "upgrade" in the title. At any rate, the ... : Quagmire
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  you're crazy if you upgrade.. ugprades dont work in my experience :( You're better off doing a clean : Raziel
  • They can work, but they tend to have more problems. Speaking from experience at ground zero (computer sa... : jidar
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    I can do a clean install with the upgrade disc. : protoman
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      With XP? I take it that you have to provide proof of an acceptable upgrade product like a Win9x cd ... : KinetiK
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        Exactly so. : Quagmire
        • [BURNS] Excellent. [/BURNS] : KinetiK
• FUCK FUCK MOTHER MOTHER FUCK FUCK! On-campus store now tells me that the shipment was delayed for som... : protoman

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• * B R U C E C A M P B E L L ' D * : jo-papa
• *ELLIPSIS IN THE WRONG PLACE'D* : johnny appleseid

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• gone forever. Now you must judge penis size by registered date! : indeego

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  XP comes with 6.4 (mplayer2.exe) : Stormrider
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    cool. Still gotta do the old rename the EXE huh? I still get the latest version for the codecs but 6.4... : Cygnus X-1
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      yup... 6.4 was great...the new one sucks a little bit of the old penis : TheTick
      • it's all that "security through obscurity" crap that they threw in, but it's cracked now, so it's meanin... : the archvile
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    yeah, just don't forget to disable mspmspsv.exe in the Services control panel. : the archvile
    • what the hell is that?? : Raziel

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  You can run DOS progs, but they could be a bit laggy. : zerologik
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    The Queen of Cool is right! : firebone
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      If she was so cool she wouldn't be using the term "laggy" to describe poor performance excepting in the ... : jidar
      • um how is it evolving in the wrong way? what she said is perfectly ok lag1 (lg) v. lagged, lag·gi... : TheTick
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  uhhh, I run DOS progs just fine.... Shit that 2k wouldn't run (progs that access hardware without going... : Trilinear
  • so like syndicate will run on it? : TheTick
• Actually, XP supposedly has good dos emulation built in, specifically ment to allow people to play old d... : Quagmire

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• :( shit... he's right. : jidar
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  You lost all credibility in a post when you use the term M$. -The SAMe : SERIOUSly the SAMe
  • For you perhaps, but others see it as interchangeable with MS. At any rate a crack would probably be ... : dognose
  • Ah well, credibility is thin around here anyway. -(insert trendy - sig) : jidar
  • well he wasn't using it to be "l33t" he was using it to prove a point. the ONLY thing driving microsoft... : ~mongoloid~
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  Nope. Which gaming company is going to risk releasing a game which requires a OS which not everyone... : GoofyBoy
  • The new DirectX will have "performance features" that aren't available in the old ones. Sure your game w... : jidar
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    Well they've already done it with IE6. IE6 will not install or run on 95. It's the same with MediaPlayer... : Topaz
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      I've also discovered at work that SQL Server 7 does not work on XP Pro Funny, I'm running SQL7 just f... : Stormrider
      • A little proof: http://members.home.com/aariens/sql.jpg : Stormrider
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        Really? I'll have to double check that. I was told by our tech guys that it didn't install. ehem. : Topaz
        • Did they try to install the Enterprise version or something? Because that won't even install on 2K Pro. : Stormrider
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      Programs out there aren't relying on the version of MediaPlayer and IE you have. : GoofyBoy
      • Just a matter of time. Lots of sites error out on any IE prior to 5.0 right now. : jidar
• Already happening. They already include features that would be very simple to add onto W2K, like video ... : indeego
• you can still get DX8.0a for Win95. Most of the things you can't do in Win95 that you can in Win98 and ... : the archvile

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  heh.... and when your personal data and 35 million others are stolen because they are stored in a single : indeego
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    Exactly which product here are you bashing? : 0Wingfan
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      .net. I imagine XP and it's successors will be more tied in directly with it in the future... : indeego
      • I haven't really paid much attention to .net, except for the constant mentions of it in Messanger. So wh... : 0Wingfan
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  AC SUCKS, DAoC OWNZ! I hear they both play on XP though. : jidar
  • YOU ARE INCORRECT SIR!]b I dislike DAoC. Not only because it's more like EQ than AC, and not only bec... : 0Wingfan

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  t's a new font render that makes text look clearer on LCD screens. It looks like crap on CRTs though. : dorker
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    Really? Hrm.. that's odd since it seems like everyone around here says Cleartype rocks, but I'm pretty s... : jidar
    • Cleartype is nice on non-lcd's too, until you've seen it its not apparent what exactly you are missing. ... : Raziel
  • WTF? It looks fantastic on my Viewsonic flatscreen CRT. : Stormrider
  • it looks like anti-aliased font, im guessing the higher your screen res, the better it looks. I used wi... : ~mongoloid~