TF2 A Year Away?

BTW, still no word from JC on exactly what \'trinity\' is.

There we go. :)

#87, did anyone ever say an engine had to be a 3D engine?

This makes me a lot happier.

From the article at Avault:

Note: Although we were originally told Team Fortress 2 was \'\'a year off\'\' from release, Sierra has amended this statement to say the game is \'\'due out next year.\'\'

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

nuff\' said

I\'m just waiting for someone to flame me for my spelling mistakes. And a reply from JC. :)

Well, I haven\'t bothered reading most of this. I know its mostly fighting over the same things. I\'ve decided to take it up in an email and ask JC exactly what \'trintiy\' is.

BTW, no one else noticed #64 said \"Quake 3 is a modified version of the Quake 2 engine, which is in turn a modified version of the original Quake engine, which was the first FPS engine ever?\" Well, I think Mr. Wolfenstein and Mr. DooM would have to disagree on that last part. :)

\"WTF? The test came out in may\"

They were originally expecting the test out in March, remember. The full version was meant to follow about two months later.


re: Trinity -
\"its baseline system is a Pentium Pro 200-plus with MMX, 32 MB, and an accelerator capable of at least 50 megapixels and 300 K triangles per second with alpha blending and z-buffering\"

Heh, funny how times change... A P200MMX is virtually obsolete today, 32Mb RAM is the absolute minimum you\'ll find in even an entry level machine, any half decent 3D accelerator manages fill rates 5 or 10 times that high, and the GeForce 256 is supposed to handle 15 MILLION triangles per second. :) Isn\'t progress a wonderful thing?

It\'s true the middleware process could make some nasty code. However, it could be smooth code, or Sony might not care, since DVD is the format of choice for their next system and code bloat really won\'t be a problem. Heh.

Dammit!

I\'m getting really bad about the it\'s and its thing. I know the difference, I\'m just not acting like it.

It\'s - contraction meaning \"it is\"
Its - possesive form of it

Man, I look dumb in some of those posts because of that... grr...

#64

I thought Q3 was it\'s own engine... I\'m not meaning to say you\'re dumb, or anything like that, and I\'m not saying you\'re wrong, I\'m just wondering where you read that info... Thanks in advance for the link. ;)

Since it was asked:

Xatrix is currently working on a new Q3A version of Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

Wow, two referrals to me in one post. I feel honored. :p

#49:
I think TF2 will play slower than hl or tfc. it is more of a tactical game than a pure shooter. And as to you comment about hl playing slow, you obviously havent had a good deathmatch in it lately :)

Try playing counterstrike on the cs_assault map with 16 ppl. now THAT\'s action.

I have followed TF2 from the begining.. I got started on the whole FPS genre with TF for quake. I remeber how Half-life was supposed to come out in the summer of \'98 and how TF2 was supposed to come out a bit later for Quake 2. Well Half-life DIDN\'T come out that summer, and TF2 switched to the Half-life engine. I seem to recall interviews with TF software about how TF2 was almost complete with the Half-life engine and everything was nearly done. Then they implemented the intel technology, which was sure to add even more time. Valve software merged with Team Fortress software, and then just to please Half-life users TFC was pushed out. I\'m pretty sure all work on TF2 was halted during the development of Team Fortress Classic (which was pushed past its expected release date numerous times). So given Valve/Team Fortress Software\'s history, it is almost expected that TF2 will not be put out until next year. And just to be sure, I\'d even add a few months on top of whatever date they set.

I just hope its not anything close to the way TFC plays. -Call me strange but Half-life and TFC are the two slowest \"feeling\" games of all time.

I was just trying to set some things strait by giving you the info directly from the horse\'s mouth. It appears some still don\'t get it. Trinity was just a test of some certain things. Trinity was a research project. Carmack was trying to see where he would go with his next game engine. I\'m sure trinity involved making at least a very simple engine. From what Carmack said(readable in post #51), it is not a project to be made into any game. Notice how he said \"At the end of Quake1...\" That would imply that this is just his code name for test stuff, since he\'s done 2 engine\'s and 1 1/2 games since then.