Make Ads Not Suck

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• too bad you have no idea how it all works eh? : davecrazy

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  problem with revealing that info would be my competitors slanting any demographics polls they ever do to... : Steve Gibson
  • Understood. No biggie. Hope this works for you!! : Quagmire
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    so I assume that in order for you to get the best advertising we would all have to say that we're retire... : Magitek
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      hehe no, people like to target starving college students and other stuff as well... i'd prefer accura... : Steve Gibson
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        there needs to be an option in the "How much a month would you pay for a fast connection?" of $0. : Old_Fart
        • NetZero is for yuo!! : king_darius

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• why, so steves competitors can adjust their numbers to become more attractive to advertisers and take aw... : davecrazy

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  Not really... male/female split is not going to be anywhere near 50/50. Income level and amt. spent on h... : futtbucker
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    Maybe income will swing wildly, but I think amount spent in games and hardware will remain constant or p... : Zoesch
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      You could be right about the HW/SW money, but I'm inclined to think that it varies fairly closely with t... : futtbucker
      • Exactly... : Zoesch
      • who cares if the 14 year old is spending mommies money or his own? the point is he's spending it. : davecrazy

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• good idea. That'd be very interesting... how 'bout it Steve? : futtbucker

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  I don't like that first option, because that starts going into being tracked. of course they would proba... : judge
  • well yeah, it'd have to be optional... and also it wouldn't be storing your answers... just a number ... : Torias
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  that really worth the investment though? i dont know how many users are here but considering the cost/re... : davecrazy
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    well, what they learn there could be applied to other areas... we watch tv, read magazines and listen... : Torias
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      generation x and generation y are very difficult to market too because the douchebags in madison avenue ... : davecrazy
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        heh... we're the complete opposite in the company i'm at... using whatever new methods we can come up wi... : Torias
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          all the quantitative scientific methods in the world dont mean shit if you have an idiot buyer and an id... : davecrazy
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            heheh yeah.. well, for content, we do have a method to fix that for direct marketing... but I'm betti... : Torias
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              he couldent afford me. :) : davecrazy
              • they don't make bills that small? : TheTick
              • I was talking about free help capitalist pig :P : Torias
• they could sift through it and count the number of mentions of "bal-sagoth" : paper chase guy
• anyone with half a brain wouldn't sift through our comments seriously though, this is a tough demogra... : Piotyr

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  to you maybe. ppl do this stuff for a living, they know what works. : davecrazy
  • no doubt...i could put code in front of most people or a circuit and they couldn't make heads or tails o... : TheTick
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    "Hmm, a majority of shackers are under 18.. that means they watch a lot of mtv!" *TRL ads appear on s... : The Kool-Aid Man
    • heh, quite the contrary actually. under 18 is a minority. : Steve Gibson
    • thats not quite how it works. try again. : davecrazy

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  please do answer it truthfully. it's much more useful in the long term for the page. : Steve Gibson
  • It was poor joke. Please nuke it. : Badm0nkey

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• Only the bestest ones. #112, : CerealSam

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• thats way too specific for a site like us. : Maarten Goldstein
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  because the advertisint aint that specific. It costs way to much money to make it that specific. it requ... : davecrazy
  • Some banners already did track the sites you visit by checking your ip and where you went :/. Ok that's : FunkyBass

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• my connection would fit in "other"... I just put the maximum DLS speed... : andromeda

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• It got me in the door....good enough : phil_mckraken
• Typically, no. By "college degree" they mean a four-year baccalaureate degree from a college or univers... : Dechter

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• 116 - MAXIMUM BANNED : Boogieman
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  Dude, you know he's capturing ip's & discarding multiple votes. Don't be such an ass. : Quagmire
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    you assume he is he might just have to go back and deltet some manually.. : Ratalon
    • He's had that very method working in shack polls (until he deleted the shackpoll database, d'oh!!) for w... : Quagmire
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    if their is an anomaly you just ingore thoes results. : davecrazy
    • exactly, like his 20 or 30 bogas entries will make a differance in the thousand + entries. : Twitched
• Actually I like my ADs to be aimed twards the people who spend copious ammounts of money twards there sy... : Ratalon
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  Actually, you are probably right. I will do it twice... no joke. Just get two computers. : yes4me
  • 128 - You can have multiple "users" on a Windows box and vote under each user. : Boogieman

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  really depends. Steve would be paid to say those things about a game. Imagine the scenario... H... : disembodied potato
  • babbers = banners but i prefer my initial spelling :) : disembodied potato
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    Well, that's not how I would want it described. More like this. Well we all know that Duke Nuke ain' : Nemo_NX
    • heh...why stop there? bilboard the news stories. Todays first Post brought to you by Best Buy For all yo... : davecrazy
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      91 - Duke3D didn't have a rocket launcher. It had a rocket-propelled grenade launcher. :-P : Boogieman
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        "It doesn't have to be ALL truthful" I covered my ass on this part. :) : Nemo_NX
        • 96 - You just wait until dognose hears of this... this blasphemy. : Boogieman
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      Maybe a better idea would be to have a "buy it here" link for every new game thats reported on. Or if it... : disembodied potato
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        95 - Now THAT'S a good idea. isn't that something like a best buy slogan? : Boogieman
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          Now that's a great idea! yeah, one of thier old ones. : Nemo_NX
          • 106 - The subliminal messages are already working. I want to go to Best Buy. but that's because my key : Boogieman
      • yeah : headache
    • dosent bother me, its just like a live read in radio. heh. but the purists will be up in armss. remeber ... : davecrazy
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      #91 - The people advertising (in this case, Best Buy) wouldn't get enough results out of it, and they pro... : Boogieman
      • #105 - Forgot to mention, again, that he'd have to completely sellout like Jay Stile did in order for the... : Boogieman
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  #70 - They could get to a degree like the crap on stileproject.com. I didn't mind the quake 3 thing, that... : Boogieman
  • http://adserver.matchcraft.com/adserver/click/19411 Is this worth it? no : Nemo_NX
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  that is a TERIBBLE idea : headache
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    Why? : Nemo_NX
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      I don't want to have to differentiate between when steve is being said to pay something and when hes act... : headache
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        Um, forgot to mention the ad news posts would be flagged "Advertisement!". Make more sense? : Nemo_NX
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          yeah thats kind of an important detail : headache
          • So still a terrible idea? : Nemo_NX

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  ARGH! I SUCK your = you're college dropout INDEED : Kaiser
  • {* S E L F S P E L L I N G N A T Z I ' D * : Ratalon

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• i don't think they have ad's that are suited to that level of targeting... I think they have a big po... : Torias
• we really arent large enough and have a poll large enough to target that specifically. maybe in a couple... : Steve Gibson

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• . What's your primary connection type Where is that DualT3 action at? Dammit Maarten!! : Ratalon

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• If we are young, rich, and don't spend much on computer hardware, expect to see Porche ads flooding the : 0Wingfan
• you goto a an agency and say I have x # of users age 18-35, they make on average 35k a year, they are mo... : davecrazy

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• ARE YOU TEH SWORD MASTUR? : disembodied potato
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  monkey island? such a great game. was it a reference to another lucasarts game? : king_darius
  • I still say monkey island 1/2 were the pinacle of computer games. Everything since has been down hill. T... : disembodied potato
  • #77 - Monkey Island = first game I ever played on a PC Then LOOM. I bored of them though, I was 8 heh.... : Boogieman

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• unemployed : judge
• i'd say craftsman :) : Torias
• homemaker or other. :) : Nemo_NX

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  heh.. yeah I wondered if maybe they were 10 questions just to be nice but he really could have used more... : jidar
  • Yes, selling my soul for demographics RAWKS! : joejoe55

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  just put the max...its anonymous so does it matter if you dont want to tell? : mohmar
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    no, he could estimate. : Boogieman
    • Well, seeing as I don't actually make any money (although I spend tons of it), and I don't know how much... : 0Wingfan
  • I guess I'm living it up then. I guess I'll just kick High School under my Education even though I'm : 0Wingfan

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  me neither!! =) : andromeda
  • D'oh!! >:D : Quagmire
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  you might be surprised. I would expect that you may not fit the Comments posters, but you may not be as... : jasonepowell
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    aye... the comment posters are quite a bit different than the lurkers from what i've been able to tell. : Steve Gibson
    • yeah... comment posters are insane. : acheron
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      the person who introduced me to the Shack, and I am in no way kidding, was a 45 year old multimillionair... : jasonepowell
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        so that's who jokemon is... : andromeda
        • AHAHAHAHA!! I stopped working at that company shortly thereafter, and I'd LOVE to find out who he pos : jasonepowell
    • Posters are active board participants (like the people who live here all day long), and Lurkers are peop... : laxman