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  haha http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001q3/pentium4-2ghz/index.x?pg=6 a P4 _600MHZ_ faster onl... : Toraz Chryx
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    That review made me laugh... Intel has definitely lost it forever... it's pushing so hard for megahertz ... : Zoesch
    • what's REALLY sad, is that a 1.4Ghz Althon4/MP would have beaten the 2.0Ghz part outright in everything ... : Toraz Chryx
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  I read the whole review, let me sum it up: The 2Ghz Pentium 4 overtakes the Athlon- only slightly- fo... : maalox
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    Yep, what's sadder than that is that pointy-haired bosses and computer-wannabe's will flock and buy that... : Zoesch
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      The 1.9 and the 2 ghz versions are like 200 dollars difference... You could buy another 1.4 athlon+A ... : maalox
      • werd : ease_one
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        about a week ago I priced up (and posted on the shack) price comparison between a :- 1.8Ghz P4 Mothe... : Toraz Chryx
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          the Tyan Thunder k7 wont take regualr tbird chips they take this guy.. http://www.pricewatch.com/1... : ease_one
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            so at the moment you cant get dual 1.4ghz athlonMP chips they only come in flavors of 1.ghz and 1.2gh... : ease_one
            • http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=1865020 : Toraz Chryx
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            um, it WILL, I've seen Tbirds running on one :), they just aren't officially 'supported' (meaning that i... : Toraz Chryx
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              oh really? interesting because i was reading an article in mag saying it didnt work with tbirds, but i g... : ease_one
              • hell, I've seen dual 900Mhz Spitfires running on a Thunder K7 (was a tad unstable, probably because the ... : Toraz Chryx
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    Well, I do find it interesting that a P4 2Ghz is slightly faster than the Athlon 1.4Ghz in most tests, a... : Vantage
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      the current thinking is that Q3 is faster because of the hardware prefetch + dual memory channels (basic... : Toraz Chryx
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        Is that a common thing, or is Q3 the only game in which that takes place? ie: would the P4 have a simil... : Vantage
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          Only Q3, and it's tied to the engine and the way the carmack did things... basically Q3 prefetches every... : Zoesch
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            Wow. That was a very intelligent post! : maalox
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              you don't need to be an EE to understand processor design and architectural tradeoffs :] : Zoesch
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                An EE? What's that stand for? : maalox
                • Electronics Engineer or Electrical Engineer depending on the College/University : Zoesch
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            I wonder why the carmack did it the way he did... : Torias
            • IIRC he mentioned that he had RDRAM in mind as it seemed to be poised for a takeover in the computer mar... : Zoesch
    • quake sells video cards... does quake sell cpus? maybe intel thinks so :) or maybe it was a qui... : Torias
    • I hate to agree with rambus, but it does allow for much better bandwidth... however, as fast as it is, i... : maalox
    • yea due to the RDRAM thats why the memory bandwidth is higher : -=kodiak=-
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      the athlon used isn't a Palomino so tests with SSE optimizations show a big lead for the P4 ie Q3A, whic... : Old_Fart
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        Yup... PC3200 (I think that's the nomer for DDR @ 333 MHz) is really close to RDRAM and with 1/4 of the ... : Zoesch
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          PC3200 = 200Mhz DDR PC2700 = 166/333DDR : Toraz Chryx
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            Thank you sir... I always put them on the wrong order! : Zoesch
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              heh Nforce + dual PC3200 Might be the outright Rambus Inc killer :) : Toraz Chryx
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                ssshhhhhh!!!!!!!!! any positive statement about the Nforce willbring out the AbRASION monster from under... : .spanky.
                • You don't keep trying do you? Oh and I have nothing against the nforce it sounds wonderful, so you ar... : abrasion
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          SOI? Explain? : maalox
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            SOI = Silicon On Insulator : Toraz Chryx
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              Basically it reduces gate capacitancies on the lower substrates to the point where you can increase cloc... : Zoesch
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                increase clock frequencies threefold Doesn't seem to do that for the PowerPC 7450 :) : Toraz Chryx
                • It's not SOI ;] the only SOI chips on the market are the POWER 3's from IBM and good luck trying to find... : Zoesch
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  Nice review. Yours? : Vantage
  • Nope, I've retired. : Toraz Chryx
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  That is funny, they talk about the fastest intel chip finally beating the fastest athlon chip at the win... : Mousey
  • they never mention price till the end either, i'd edit it and every time intel beat the athlon id put in... : radula

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  Stephen King :( : cot
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    gee, that wasn't set up. : Silentlobotomy
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      Like a clean freak at an orgy, I figured I'd at least try to get it in before anyone else. </Frank ... : cot
      • Aaliyah...she was too young to die. All these people died of suicide, drugs, diseases, age, and murder..A... : shiz
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    did i miss something? stephen king's dead? : sparhawk
    • i heard that on talk radio : redfive
  • A true American icon. : Anti_dentite
• excellent choice! OHH YEAHH!!! : Randy Savage
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  Chris farley : maalox
  • I don't feel as bad about him as about hartman i mean, it sucks that farley died, but he burned out ... : cot
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    ditto : Nemo_NX
    • Scratch that choice, I came up with a better one. http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=1864508 : Nemo_NX
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  John Wayne Gacy. : Poor Yurik
  • Clowns are funny! : cot
• quake 3 : raunchy
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  Cobain and Hartman. : futtbucker
  • cobain was a close second for me : gegtik
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    you cant pick two you bastard. Reviving two people would be impossible, try to be a bit realistic. Jee... : Randy Savage
    • No, with my one wish I just wished for a million others, so I could revive two.... Hell, I'll revive Jim : futtbucker
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    I wouldn't say Kobain, cause he killed himself. If you prevent it he probably would do it sometime. Hart... : Glop
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      TOO BAD COURTNEY LOVE HAD HIM MURDERED. :p : Poor Yurik
      • THE SMURFS : Silentlobotomy
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  David Caruso : Chrono Trigga
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    get it? cuz he's not dead but his career is kinda sorta...ah fuck it : Chrono Trigga
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      hah no one got it but me! : silversurfer
      • mission accomplished! : Chrono Trigga
  • Ike do your impersonation of david caruso's career : Ratalon
• Phil Hartman or Chris Farley, definitely Phil Hartman : AllYourBase
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  definetly kobain : silversurfer
  • KURT COBAIN. NOT CURT KOBAIN. NOT KURT KOBAIN. NOT CURT COBAIN. : Poor Yurik
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  Stanley Kubrick. Though untimely is kind of arguable, he was getting up there in years. Other than th... : Vis Inack
  • A second on Kubrick. I would've liked to have seen A.I. come to completion. : Lone Swordsman
• bill hicks or chris farley : emocore
• Stevie Ray : PsYk0
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  Jeff Buckley. Easily. That was a huge and profound loss. : haiku
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    forgive me but who is that? : gegtik
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      Phenomenal musician. : haiku
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        song/album suggestion? : gegtik
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          his first and only album "Grace". It's great. One of my top 10 favorites. If you could only get a few so... : haiku
          • FYI - Grace was his only official album. After his death his family released a bunch of stuff on a 2 dis... : haiku
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  SPOILER................................... spike from cowboy bebop :( :( :( :( :( :( :( : maalox
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    argh, i knew i shouldn't of read that. i hope you're kidding cause i just got the 6th DVD : ariakaz
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      Blah, sorry, I wasn't thinking very clearly there... although it's arguable if spike dies or not ;) : maalox
      • but they're making a Bebop movie!!! could of course be prior to the series timeline : ariakaz
  • ^------ For cowboy bebop btw : maalox
  • but theyre making a movie!! : sexninja!!!!
• john candy, walter mathaw (cant spell) or farley : JeBuS
• Shit, nevermind. It's a toss between Bill Hicks, Jeff Buckley, or Douglas Adams. : haiku
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  Lorenzo Music. Voice of Garfield if you didn't know. :( : Nemo_NX
  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:( THAT WAS MY FAVORITE CARTOON... : maalox
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  Jimi Hendrix : ariakaz
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    he died in the past decade? : gegtik
    • Douglas Adams woops, read the WHOLE post next time. : ariakaz
  • * WASSICKTHATDAY'D * : PsYk0
• at first I say phil but I'd need to give it some though : headache
• Chris Farley, hands down no competition : judge
• esus : Badm0nkey
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  I'm a child at heart and I grew up watching PBS kiddie TV, so I'd have to say Shari Lewis. Unlike Mis... : 0Wingfan
  • "this is the song that never ends .. it just keeps going on and on ........" : emocore
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  Steve Guttenberg : ariakaz
  • he died?!?! no he didnt! : sexninja!!!!
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    No, just his career died. : futtbucker
    • Although this youthful-looking "everyman" has appeared in some of the 1980s' most successful films, his : ariakaz
• Jimi Hendrix : sexninja!!!!
• Lynn Strait - lead vocalist of Snot. a big buzz in their time, alot of people saw a good future for the... : RiNgMaStEr
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  Cliff Burton after thinking about this for a while im slapping myself for not thinking of Cliff real ... : -=kodiak=-
  • He died over ten years ago.. : TreMetal
• Dwayne Goettel from Skinny Puppy : Zoesch
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  Bill Hicks I'm amazed and disgusted that people have been suggesting people OTHER than Bill Hicks ;) : Toraz Chryx
  • Seconded!!! I hear he was a bigger hit over in Europe than the U.S. He was one of the funniest comedians... : ultramega
• chris farley : foof
• ^ : gegtik
• I'm surprised, I figured Princess Di would have shown up by now. : Dreagon
• Brandon Lee : Midshift
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  freddy mercury? : mad-d00d
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    Good one, but more than ten years now isn't it? : Do_Or_Die
    • november 11th, 91' i believe .. :/ : mad-d00d
• Frank Sinatra : jasonepowell
• Ian Curtis, Joy Division's singer : Terminus Est

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  Nirvana...Nevermind j/k : ultramega
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    no :) the album only got released today : disembodied potato
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      the new Slipknot album? : ultramega
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        hah, no : disembodied potato
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          just tell us already so we can start making fun of you : Bob Jones
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            the strokes - is this it : disembodied potato
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              another British band that sounds like the beatles? : Bob Jones
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                no there from NYC. There an italian funk / punk band. There probably the most hyped band in europe atm. ... : disembodied potato
                • http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=584133061/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/artistid=STROKES/ite... : ultramega
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                  That's cause America sends all the bands that suck to Europe then take them back once they hit it big wi... : Bob Jones
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                    They were unsigned before they came to the uk. The biggest gig they had played in NYC was 50-60 people.... : disembodied potato
                    • aka The Hendrix Effect : paper chase guy
                  • lol :) : FlyingButtPliers
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                    or the american music industry is to frightened of new things to sign any inspiring acts. Good music com... : disembodied potato
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                      you guys sure gobbled up David Hasselhoff and early Backstreet Boys Cds. heh We're too afraid of John T... : Bob Jones
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                        you're thinking of germany (for hasselhoff at least) : paper chase guy
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                          Is Aaron Carter really as big in england as I hear? : Bob Jones
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                            who's that? : paper chase guy
                            • Ma Bell I got the ill communication : FlyingButtPliers
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                              oh wait, i think i've heard of this kid http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aemf5zfo2eh7k ... : paper chase guy
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                                soon Europe will bounce him back and all of America will be sorry. See that's Europe's plan, they act a... : Bob Jones
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                                  who are these american bands you speak of ? : disembodied potato
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                                    I think he's talking about the backstreet boys and n'sync, who became huge in europe first before being ... : paper chase guy
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                                      they did ? Nsync have only just hit big over here. Atleast i only heard of their name a month or so ago. : disembodied potato
                                      • well, it may have just been in contintental europe... I'm not sure. (I try not to know too much about th... : paper chase guy
                          • isn't that the kid thats always on disney channel : nurall
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                        Psh. John Tesh is just a third rate knockoff of Yanni, who's European, born and bred ;) Yanni rules : Vantage
                        • OMG, BAN THIS MOFO : paper chase guy
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                      btw, it's not like we get the best of british music over here, either :( : paper chase guy
                      • err, music from UK + Ireland (don't want to piss anyone off!) : paper chase guy
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                        Yeah i know, pretty much any respectable band from europe doesnt want to go near the usa. They know its ... : disembodied potato
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                          well, generally what gets mass-exported between countries is the mainstream crap, anyways. America isn't... : paper chase guy
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                            hey dont get me wrong, i love music from everywhere. I just hate it when misinformed people have sad ste... : disembodied potato
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                              ok :) I'm a total UK rock whore, I think a good half of what I listen to is from the UK btw, liste... : paper chase guy
                              • WTF!!? the UK album cover is much better :( censored yet again : paper chase guy
                              • If you want any info on the strokes try here: http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Artists/Artist_Page/0,1226... : disembodied potato
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                                if u want it i'll scan the British cover art. Its pretty coo :) : disembodied potato
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                                  btw im not sure if i mentioned this track. But "Last night" is the best track on the album. I've crowd s... : disembodied potato
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                                    this totally sounds like a late 70s punk album, snare heads rattling with the guitars and everything :) : paper chase guy
                                    • Well, it's not the snare heads that are rattling... ;) : Vantage
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                                      yeah its fucking brilliant. Punk is coming back in a big way in the uk. I think we're all secretly prou... : disembodied potato
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                                        I thought I heard that early punk bands, like the sex pistols, weren't very popular in england until the... : Bob Jones
                                        • thats not what i remember. The british radio and media were very against the punk movement in the uk, an... : disembodied potato
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                                        Punk != Exciting. >_< : Vantage
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                                          *punches Vantage in the face* Don't you DARE say that in my presence.... : the violator
                                          • so how's work today? : plutonium245
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                        What're you talking about? Bal-Sagoth is available world-wide!! : Vantage
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                          yeah, only recently! : paper chase guy
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                            Oh, and I think Balance of Power is british too.. not sure.. At least one member is british (the songwr... : Vantage
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                              haven't heard them... what would you recommend? : paper chase guy
                              • Hmmm.. I'm listening to their brand brand brand new album (came out last week). Good stuff, but for ... : Vantage
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                    explain Menudo then and that bastard spin-off we all know and love as Ricky Martin!!!! : ultramega
                    • menudo is pretty good when your drunk oh wait you're not talking about food : nurall
                    • He hit it really big in spain, then europe sent him back to America to win over the hearts of 40 yr old ... : Bob Jones
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                not exactyl mainstream to me, but I will give them a listen : ultramega
                • there a really incredible blend of punk and good old fashioned rock and roll. When you listen to it you ... : disembodied potato
              • I think you should revise your history of music as only one unfortunate accident of a band called Oasis : Zoesch
• the spice girls? : Bob Jones
• btw, any group with a song named "Barely Legal" is bound to be popular at the shack h4w h4w : paper chase guy
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  Same goes for good bands over here. Well at least Europe isn't as bad as japan. Do people even know ab... : Bob Jones
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    Japanese people listen to two types of music. Sickly sweet cheesy j-pop and hardcore scandinavian de... : Vantage
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      Although Helsinki, Finland heavy metal band Stratovarius was formed in 1982 by drummer Tuomo Lassila, th : paper chase guy
      • Yep. Stratovarius is huge in Japan. Same with Sonata Arctica, Iced Earth, In Flames, CoB, Nightwish, R... : Vantage
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      Japanese people encompass all types, like every other society. :P : jidar
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        Of course. However, you cannot deny that there are more fans of scandinavian metal in Japan than ther... : Vantage
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          what would be ironic, is if j-pop became really popular in scandanavian countries (ala Venger) : paper chase guy
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            Indeed. :) Although, I believe Venger to be the exception, rather than the rule. : Vantage
            • What you ment to say is "I believe Venger to be a fucking freak." hahaha : jidar
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          ha! Yeah. They also have the most Japanese people. : jidar
          • Well then, I'm glad you agree. :) : Vantage
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      "Alternative" Rock and Punk are very popular in Japan too. Groups like The Pillows. : The_Janitor
      • hehe. don't forget garage rock... Guitar Wolf! : paper chase guy
• I bought a CD in 1999 : jidar