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ATI Unveils New Radeon
by Maarten Goldstein, Aug 14, 2001 6:52am PDTATI today announced their new family of Radeon cards, based on newer technology. The one we as gamers should all look at is the Radeon 8500. Here's what that puppy will have
The Ultimate Gaming Graphics Card The RADEON 8500 is powered by the most advanced graphics technology in the world, and features 64MB of DDR (double data rate) memory, digital flat panel (DVI) support as well as dual monitor and video output, and DVD (digital versatile disc) video playback. The first gaming card with complete hardware support for DirectX 8.1, the RADEON 8500 will be available in late September and has an MSRP of (US) $399.There's some previews on Gamespot, AnandTech and Inside Mac Games. Besides the Radeon 8500 there's also a 7500 ("It delivers up to a 60 percent improvement in performance compared to the previous generation of RADEON high-performance processors") and the FireGL 8800 card. Even The Carmack has stated that this next gen Radeon processor has the potential to be great. Also Voodoo Extreme has a quote from Tim Sweeney. Lets hope ATI does a good job on the drivers and offer some real competition to the GeForce 3. Because we all love price wars, right?
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Yes ATI has been known to release some real shit, I for one have realized this has been resolved.
I have a Radeon 32meg DDR (retail) and have no problems what so ever.
Yes when ever a product is released the drivers are not on par. This goes for nVidia and the late 3dFX.
I like getting a new card thats fast only to find out how much better it performs with optimized drivers.
Yes there will always be those whiney driver bitches who have nothing better to do then complain when drivers are or are not released.
"They Never Update Their Drivers" or "They just leaked drivers 2 days ago why do I need to install these"
These trolls will never be happy.
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While NVidia is good and all, this seriously sucks, and I hope that ATi can give 'em a good beating.
Also as Anand shows, those new NV drivers actually decrease performance in some games (Giants for example) and it's just funny how it improves in the typical benchmark arenas. That is so FUCKING weak.
booyaka
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Personally I think I might get this after the price drops to around 300 or less, because this card will last till Doom3. Around then I can get a graphics card that does those new Doom engine games well. If I wait for a GF4 there's no real point because this 8500 will do games up until then just as well (I.E. not chugging). Lets just hope their drivers will improve, which I think they will. They increased the performance in win2k almost 40 percent, so who's to say they can't do even better? I don't think they'll do great, but with a unified driver team they could potentially do MORE than before.
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Their Hype machine is borked >:(
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http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2001/08/14/futureshop140801
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Games that would seriously use such processing power (Wolf, Doom3, Quake4, games that MATTER ;) will be out next Fall at the earliest (totally, completely, 100% my speculation). These cards will debut September.
NVIDIA will have their next generation cards by then (like they did with the TNT2 for Quake2, Geforce for Quake3 IIRC). And like before, ATI will be rehashing its boards with speed improvements and SHITTY DRIVERS.
Hey, here's to hoping I'm wrong (and history's wrong). Cause my friends work at ATI and I'd like to have a hefty discount for my next-gen Doom card :)
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Too little too late, and for too much money. If ATI would stop dicking around with new connectors and MPAA-compliant 2D features, then maybe they'd see that their 3D team desperately needs work. Looks like they've pretty much shelved the FireGL tech that they purchased, much like Creative did with A3D.
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"The Radeon 8500 and 7500 won't be going up against the GeForce3 and GeForce2 Pro when they launch, instead NVIDIA will have a new set of cards to compete with so ATI had better work on that pricing a bit<<
Too little too late ATI.
" ATI had better aggressively price the offering otherwise they're going to be getting some pretty tough competition from NVIDIA."
GF3 Ultra and GF3 MX?!?!
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A couple of interesting quotes... from the anandtech preview:
"The Radeon 8500 and 7500 won't be going up against the GeForce3 and GeForce2 Pro when they launch, instead NVIDIA will have a new set of cards to compete with so ATI had better work on that pricing a bit"
And from http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=1434 :
"While the graphics chip was not officially announced when Burke talked to HomeLAN at QuakeCon, he almost seemed to be talking about the new ATI product when it came to NVIDIA’s own GeForce 3. “We get a lot of our competitors saying, ‘This is going to be the GeForce 3 killer’ and if you are aiming for the GeForce 3, you are aiming at the wrong target. The best thing that could happen to NVIDIA is for all of our competitors to aim for the GeForce 3.” "
Nvidias next high end offering is right around the corner (which nvidia has alluded is not just a a higher speed binned version of the same GF3 chip - but likely has an extra vertex unit a la the xbox gpu). God, it seems like the gf3 was just released yesterday...
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Remember folks, just because you have problems or don't have any problem doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. This is all too true when it comes to PC's and the near infinite possible configurations one may have.
Welcome to the real world, where you are statistically insignificant.
--Loco3KGT
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Where is the 128meg DDR version
64meg is old news
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