UT Demo Details

Well #35, I feel the same as you about a lot of this stuff, except CTF. 1/2 the time I played Quake was CTF, and the other half DM. For Quake2, it was about 70% CTF. I can\'t wait to see Q3CTF, because I feel that you can still have a quality time playing with a team of strangers, most of whom might be twits. The rules are simple unlike TF2, so a moron on your team won\'t ruin the game.

From what I see Q3Test is a great success on-line, I expect more people to keep playing it than UT. Then when Quake3 comes out I think (and hope) it will be #1, so that I can still find lots of servers and opponents.

Damn dude(#35), what a long-winded brainfart that was!

Don\'t worry, there will be plenty of guys playing Q3 and \"owning\" yo stank ass.

I can\'t believe so many people complain about Q3. I love it. I played every id game continuously since it came out (since Wolf) and I\'ve switched to the next thing as soon as it came out, and played that one continuously. I think they outdo themselves every time.

A lot of people complain because Quake3 is not original and is too much like the other games. Others complain that it\'s not like QW or not like Quake2, or whatever. Who\'s going to buy the game then? If nobody likes it, why are so many people playing it? The players I see on servers aren\'t newbies for the most part, they\'ve obviously played other games before, and since they downloaded Q3Test they obviously went to to the trouble of getting it and are fairly well informed.

So I think what you read here is not representative of the real \"market\". I think there\'s lots of talented players out there who love Q3Test and who will make Quake3 a great success, not just played by id-hating llamas like Unreal is.

well well well..
it will be a miracal if the demo is out b4 the 18th..
on the 18th doesnt count...
b4 the 18th...
the quake weapons are tried and true weapons..
since DooM
SSG has proven to be effective..
and the Rocket Launcher
And the PlasmaGun/hyperblaster
UT might suck..
and it might not..
if the netcode is as solid as quake3\'s then q3 and Ut are gona be bought at the same time..
if its netcode blows..
then there is no hope for it..

I gotta say doom 1 was by far the best dming (and coop) for me and my friend over the *cough cough* 9600 baud modems. Then again i can remember how cool it was when I got my 14.4 hehehe. sooooo long ago...
but q3 is just an engine that im sick of. Mods however will make the weapons and everything else cool. does that make sense? you never know how tired you are till you start typing your thoughts :)

the impact hammer sounds like the \"air fist\" from painkeep(q1 mod)...that was a sweet weapon...it shot air that could deflect rockets, hurt people, or allow you to painlessly \"rocket jump\"...

#8 youre oversimplyfing the UT weapons many of the wapons alternate modes are completly different.

Rocketlauncher=same as unreals 8-ball gun just renamed to rocketlauncher
Shockrifle=railgun.. sortof but its alternate is a slow firing slower moving projectile
Pulse gun=plasmagun and lightning gun with alternate
Impact hammer=melee weapon plus you can \'impact jump\' with it.
Translocator=like a grapple but not really

Also the weapons in the demo are only just over half the weapons that UT has.

#22: Prey? Heheh...

Who else here remembers when Prey shots were released at about the same time as Unreal shots and--get this--Quake 1 shots... Yes, that\'s right, Prey was slated to compete with Quake... Back in the days before 3d cards, and before URLs were everywhere... Before the internet was big... Back in 1995!!!

You all need to open your minds a bit more..The games I\'m most looking forward to are TF2, and Prey if it ever comes out..I\'m sorry, but DN4 just doesn\'t sound that good..DN3 single player was kinda fun, but that was back when I was still playing with only the keyboard. and the deathmatch just plain sucked.

#9, \"Q3 is the same damn thing as Doom1 but with better graphics\"

Some would argue DooM/2 was the best multiplayer experiance they\'ve had...

seriously....duke aint scared of no quake marine...and definetly not of no faggot ass ut greenmarine....
duke would stick a pipe bomb up their asses, then go bang some strippers.

\"shake it baby\"

Actually I\'m thinking Duke\'s gonna roll over anything that comes out... If I still had DN3D I\'d still play it! That game was just so much fun!
And I\'m not even gonna get in on the whole UT vs. Q3 flamewar this time =P

-SatansFist

I have played ALOT of q3test on the LAN, though mostly because my freinds like to play it. I am not condeming the game or even insuinuated there is something wrong with playing it.
It is just that the game does not appeal to me in anyway, is it just because there is too much pick in the game? or is it because I just do not like oversimplify gameplay? I do not know.

Will I like UT? I don\'t know. I just hope it takes full advantage of Q3\'s weeknesses.

#4 I DO NOT LIKE QUAKE3TEST!!!

And to all you hard core wanabies (attn:#4), playing a \"quake\" game does NOT make you hardcore.

oh yeah, wtf is a translocator minigun? i thought there was a minigun and then something else called a translocator. did they merge the two into one weapon or something?

#9, I disagree with you on the duke4 part. Personally, I think WoT is gonna rule it\'s ass.

is UT the game Jon Romero is working on? Or was it Tribes2? i forget...

#6, railgun

the \"rocket launcher\" sticks out like a sore thumb in that list...im just pissed they dropped the \"hypoacclerated ion demagnitizing mass exploding wakatuki\"...

#6: I\'m not saying that UT can\'t use Quake-style weapons, I\'m saying that they are using Quake-style weapons. After all the bashing that the Q3 weapons have taken for lack of originality, it turns out that Epic is going to use basically the same weapons as Q3 is. The weapons that id came up with in Wolf3d/Doom in the first place.

Rocket Launcher = Um...Rocket Launcher, maybe?
Pulse Gun = Plasma Gun, I\'m guessing...
Shock Rifle = Railgun
Enforcer/Dual Enforcers = Pistols, renamed
Impact Hammer = Gauntlet
Translocator Minigun = Minigun.

So, basically, nobody can bash Q3\'s lack of originality anymore, can they? Well, I suppose not including \"Dominance\" matches makes them unoriginal, right? :P

And let me say: I\'m not knocking UT, I\'m just defending Q3.

Damn, that shot of the MG sucked! The muzzle flash was way too large. If that bitch cranked the gun up, I\'d be able tosee her clear on the other side of the map. Way too exagerated. Damn, losing faith in UT

#4: Quite a lot of \'hardcore\' gamers actually. And a whole bunch of other people.

#3 & #2: I guess that id are the only ones eligble to use a rocket launcher since they \'invented\' it, right? It\'s not like it\'s been in every damn Quake version so far? Actually, although the tried and true method is somewhat of an id trademark (yes even the arena approach is more or less tried and true because DM is what id truly excels in) I must say that id has so far been the least imaginative of all the developers. Shotguns, RL\'s and machineguns in one way or another throughout the series (and even in Wolfenstein and Doom). I agree that pretty much all the weapons in Unreal sucks but Epic at least tried to change them. Just look at id\'s try with the Hyperblaster and how miserably it worked upon release. How many \'hardcore gamers\' use it today? In the end it really doesn\'t matter if a game still use the same old weapons as long as they\'re well done and fun to play with. I love the Q3 shotgun but loathe the shaft for instance.

And for what it\'s worth, the translocator is a teleporting device and the minigun is just that, a minigun ( lookie here for a shot of it in action: http://www.unrealtournament.net/gallery/a3_large.htm ).

-- Martin

#4

then visit real harcore sits like www.challenge-eu.com or challeneg-au.com

they all talk about UT being much more interesting for them than q3a

//BTW , i\'m a q3 addict

So much for unique weapons, eh, guys? Or do unique names count?