DSL Turmoil

Just a price check, out of curiosity...

Provider: Aliant (the telco)
Speed: 768K down, 680K up
Cost: $85/month

What are fees like for the rest of you with DSL?

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is DSL what I use to get on the NetWeb? I thought AOL and Microsoft connected me to a digital lifestyle?

I'm using ToadNet DSL (Maryland/DC area company) and it is sweet. 1.5mbps/384kbps, which is much cooler than @home (as they cap your upload at 128kbps, and since it's an artificial cap, when you hit 128kbps you can't send outbound packets which basically makes the interweb EXTREMELY slow.) I hope ToadNet doesn't go bankrupt anytime soon, though @Home is still (unknowningly) giving us a free IP address, so we could use the cable service for free, heh heh...

sTeve, I have been using Garland @Home since it's been out, and it's doing really well right now. A few months ago, my roommate and I thought getting Verizon DSL would be an improvement because of @Home's crappy 15k a sec upload, so we got the 1.5/1.5 package. When the modem was delivered and we were activated I eagerly set up my connect and refreshed my q3 and cs gamespy server list, not a single q3 server on all servers option had below a 90 ping, with most being between 150-200. Whereas @Home I had tons of servers 10 pings on up. Now our DSL modem sits in a corner collecting dust for another 10 months. Just a friendly word of caution.

CPL|Chris

My cable modem (using Roadrunner in Bethany, Oklahoma) only lets me upload at 40 kilobytes per second.

Is that good or bad?

Independent DSL will die without regulation. We said it before the DSL game got started but everybody swore that wasn't true. Well look who was right assholes, IT WAS ME!

Now we have just a few Telcos selling DSL and most of the US gets this package from SBC:
128kbit up 768kbit/down
1 ip address
must sign contract and buy a modem for $99
$49/month

Now we all take it in the ass, thanks!

Independant DSL companies were screwed from the beginning because they have to rely on phone companies to get anything done.. and why would the phone company care at all when they'd much rather provide DSL to you themselves..

I had flashcom/northpoint 384k SDSL (for $40 a month) up until they both went outta buisness, it was great after the 2-3 month wait getting it set up and working. Now i've got cablespeed which has a wonderful 128k upload cap plus pings 60+ to my gateway, AND is down at the moment. Thinking about switching to comcast@home, but with my luck they're probably worse.

I have 1.5 DL 256K uploiad and more then 1 ip for 39.99 a month/

128k upstream is facking pathetic. I don't see why ATT@home doesn't offer a bigger upload package. They'll sell you 6 IPs, but 6 people can't do shit with 128k upstream. We can't even flick boogers at each other.

T.T

Has any 3rd party DSL provider ever been cheaper to get DSL from rather then the phone company? Around here, it's $50 a month to get it from the phone company and $10 - $20 more then that a month to get it through someone else.

Yeh Flashpoint died, threw me off to Northpoint they died and i ws out cold. Ordered Earthlink and they still have not set the shit up. Verizon keaps moving the setup date back. It was supposed to be august 2, now 16th prolly delayed again once i hit the 16th.

DIAL UP IS TORTURE>

You know what is strange, I just got this bill for Directlink DSL which would be ok if I had it. I have @home.

Bill 8/1/01
From: billing@DirectLink.Net
To: <xxxx@home.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:23:38 -0500


ARC DSL


xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bank of America
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxx, TX xxxxx
United States


CUSTOMER ID 0003588

ACCOUNT STATUS

Previous Balance $0.00
Payments $66.52 CR
Adjustments $0.00
Current Charges $0.00

CURRENT BALANCE $66.52 CR

BILL NUMBER 145939
BILL DATE Aug 1, 2001
DUE DATE Aug 16, 2001

Your account is current. Do not send payment.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you for your business!

For customer assistance please call 214-855-0055.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


PAYMENTS

Date Description Amount
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jul 12 Check Payment - Check #5531915 $66.52 CR
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL PAYMENTS $66.52 CR

All of you guys out with with AT&T@home like me...

You guy's bill go up $10 too? Yep... this is why...
Now that the giants have squashed goliath, they can
jack their rates up as high as they want. I hate
America sometimes...

-SmArT1

Englewood hehehe...
Are we in Inglewood? Do I look like a nigger?

you will get shafted using verizon.. cuz they are a monopoly just like aol and m$.. sorry to say, but it's true

I have Speakeasy/Covad.
Sure, Covad may have had troubles.

Sure, Covad may still go down.

Fortunately, right now this setup is almost perfect. My ping doesn't change to a server by more than 2ms in about 20 ping attempts. Very stable, see how much I can get out of this :)

Btw, Pacbell DSL I get/got 400 ping half the day. I want Covad to live! :(

This is why Canada rocks. I signed up for @home 3 years ago and it cost me $50 and then $40/month since then (that's like $26 US). A tracert takes 5 hops to get to the local university server and my upload is capped at 32k/s (a lot higher than others).

But then I guess when you have 1/10th the population and several times the land mass of the USA it's a lot to get the network in place.

Hmm. So the Broadband Revoltion looks now to be mostly marketing hype?

What a bummer. >:(

Reply to my post and win 50 dollars!

and to think i thought it was bad when bell canada won the right in court to use dsl tech.
Now im sorta glad that small isp's in ontario didnt win... or else the same problem would be happening here.

atleast i KNOW bell canada wont go bankrupt anytime soon

Steves girl-friend is named Crystal, does that mean she can call steves balls "Cryistal's balls"?

My crystal ball tells me you are gonna get shafted, steve.

S.M.

There is always StarBand. HAHHAAHHAHAHAHAH Yeah right. I felt like making a joke.

I love my cable connection. Up here in canadia /shakes fist at Steve cable is fast, unsaturated, cheap, and readily available. Mmmmmmmmm......

*pets cable modem*

My DSL is routed through Washington and I live in California© My pings are pretty bad, but there's not much else I can really do since I've already complained a lot over the past 6 months©

this sucks, regional telcos always overcharge ridiculously for an upload speed that is even useable

I don't get it how come they can't be profitable I mean 100k biz clients sounds good to me

Verizon DSL = evil. If there is a problem in your installation, forget it. It will take months for the tech dep to solve your problem.

Here's a blast from the past; last June, from when Id Software moved into their new offices:

http://finger.planetquake.com/plan.asp?userid=xian&id=14472
(sorry Steve, but until the finger tracker has a date option, I have to do this)

That's Xian going nuts because SBC and Savvis were messing up with the move. "Through this experience, I've put ISP's and Phone Companies somewhere a few points higher than lawyers on my 'scum scale rating' (previously, lawyers held a commanding lead on this scale)"

Rhythms had the most gawd awful radio ads, so I am pretty glad they are dead.

Independent DSL providers are dropping dead left and right.

The telcos have their heads up their arses as far as network administration and routing go.

The cable companies are turning into AOL, shifting over to proprietary protocols and forbidding you to use VPN.

What the hell is left? Do I have to buy a T1 for myself just to get decent broadband? Where's this "broadband revolution" that we've been hearing about? I personally have had bad luck; Verizon's service eventually broke down entirely last October, and despite the $500 I gave Covad just to get my 608/128 service started, they told me that they were going through finanical issues and cut me off. For the last month I haven't even used e-mail.

It's a good thing I'm going to be living at college and using their network, but what will I do in three years? Dial-up isn't much of an option; slow as hell, and I haven't seen any monthly fees below $15 (you'd think they would take a nosedive with all the broadband). And now I have to interrogate ISPs and pretend I own a small business with a Linux box, all to make sure that there isn't any dicking around with nonstandard protocols or spyware connection clients. ISP searching sucks.

come on....;...

So close...yet.nevermind

got it........