Warcraft 3 Goes 2002

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  its not westwood who wants to release games as soon as possible, its EA.. EA has pretty much screwed ov... : TwiLyght
  • True, but Westwood has one very big flaw in all of it's RTS games. Super Weapons they suck and it just ... : Crimsonbeak

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  just like Starcraft was Orcs in Space right?</sarcasm> : Do_Or_Die
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    no, like Diablo 2 was upgraded Diablo. And Warcraft: BNE was just Warcraft :) Sequels from Blizzard ... : Raziel
    • but then again, isn't that the idea of a sequel? more of the same with some extra? : enigmatic
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      I actually think Diablo2 was worse than the 1st one. I mean the 1st one had all that atmosphere, while ... : Crimsonbeak
      • i agree. But they had to, because who really wanted to walk around a dark dungeon all over again. that... : jedi_27
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        Hey, I like Diablo2. :( Don't mess with computer crack. : -dm7
        • hey its cool. we like D2 as well. Just making some justified comments : jedi_27
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          Yeah it was like crack till I beat Diablo. Then I started the game on Nightmare got to the Den of Evil,... : Crimsonbeak
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            Well, um, then you should look for all the awesome items like the Stone of Jordan and.....oh hell, I'm j... : -dm7
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              Yeah I know that is the reason, tons of people play D2. But I guess I am just not attracted to these ty... : Crimsonbeak
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                plus EVER CRACK as a $9.99 monthly fee. BNET is free : jedi_27
                • Yeah that is true seeing as I am just a poor college kid who already spends to much money on games. : Crimsonbeak
                • I would gladly pay for a service that ties my account to my cdkey, or provides some other sort of securi... : haccess
    • War2 BNE was not a sequel to War2. Considering after 5 years there was still a huge following for th... : mirage
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  Actually is going to be very different then W2 (i am falling for the hype), but the style of play is goi... : jedi_27
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    two resources. Gold and Mana. Its War 2 with the hero thing - kinda like a merging of Diablo and Warcr... : Raziel
    • Heros don't carry over from game to game on Battle.net. They are more of a Single player thing. : Crimsonbeak
• except it will have a true 3D engine. : the archvile
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  Look at Dune emporer, the 3d interface made dune worse, it just does not fit RTS games :( it slows down ... : abrasion
  • Emperor looks pretty nice for a 3D RTS. But I agree with you, it tends to make them look like crap. Plus... : SatansFist
  • I think one of the big problems with dune is that the developers forgot they were using a 3d engine. In... : BLulight
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  First, both Diablos were developed by Blizzard North. The team that is working on War3 made War2 and... : mirage
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    You gotta admit starcraft didn't deviate much from the WC 2 formula. It was a good formula though so wh... : Bob Jones
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      From a "hardcore" persons perspective: they are completely different games. You have to gather resou... : mirage
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        The similarities don't end there. Starcraft is the natural evolution of Warcraft2. All the races in Starc... : Avatar
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          I sort of agree. Terran do borrow lots of things from the standard rts race. Zerg are pretty diff... : mirage
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            starcraft remains to this day one of the finest RTS games ever created. rehash or not, i enjoyed the ga... : oneangrydwarf
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              I think it "is" the finest, not one of. : Crimsonbeak
              • I was just going to say the same thing. : yoggoth
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  Uh yeah.. except 3d.. and uh only 20 units at a time.. and uh.. yeah I guess it's not anything like WC... : jidar
  • don't worry it won't take you away from your AOK world. you are safe : jedi_27

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  we all did, i just lived denied it would ever happen until today. : jedi_27
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    uh....wha? : BLulight
    • damn - bad grammer will get me everytime : jedi_27

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  DOOM 3 and W3 are also two different types of games. we expect more visuals out of of FPS games, and mo... : jedi_27
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    But...this looks worse than Starcraft :P : FunkyBass
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      Looks like Blizzard removed it from thier website, but there used to be pictures from the Play tests, an... : Crimsonbeak
      • yeah, I love looking at those old sc shots. At first they made sc using the war2 engine, just diffe... : Anti_dentite
• graphics aren't everything. : BLulight
• This shot is almost a year old. Steve should have got one of the E3 ones. Check this one...it is a t... : fookilla

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  um, team fortress 2 has only had a standard long length dev cycle really.. it's just seemed like a long ... : Torias
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    Hahaha. You must be joking old man. : mc-fine
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      ??? TF2 has been in dev for 2.5 years. : Torias
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        TF2 seems like a really long time because they announced it before they started working on it, and the o... : Crimsonbeak
        • that is exactly right, precisely the line of reasoning I've used myself before... we've known about i... : Torias
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          they've just made too many moves: First, it was going to be a HL addon. Then it was going to be a ... : the archvile
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            yeah, when I talk about the tf2 game dev time, I'm talking only about the last two really... : Torias
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              I had never heard of Half-Life when I bought it I just went in to the store, and the salesman said that ... : Crimsonbeak
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                well that sucks for you, plans change i guess... if you were only buying it for the tf2 addon, why no : Torias
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                  cause it was supposed to be a free MOD for it which was replaced by TFC. :) And I had just got my new M... : Crimsonbeak
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                    well why not wait till the mod came out? tfc was abominably bad :( did you enjoy half life anywa... : Torias
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                      As I said I needed a new game for my new machine, and I loved HL I have played through it atleast 4 time... : Crimsonbeak
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                        heh, well as long as you aren't bitching about being tricked into buying half life... i've heard that "a : Torias
                        • Good god no I am not bitching. I mean I have tried most of the big games that have come out since then,... : Crimsonbeak
          • you forgot when it was going to be a quake2 mod. : jet-poop
          • no first is was a q2 mod : headache
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        and they've already said that there isn't much done on tf2 yet.. : TwiLyght
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          They could just be saying that, or TF2 could of basiclly been put on the back burner while the company w... : Crimsonbeak
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            I think they'd be working on a trilogy of games for their next gen.... tf2, hl2 and cs2... all using the... : Torias
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              if you look at their previously released screenshots of tf2 in say, pc gamer mag feb'2000, it looks like... : TwiLyght
              • well, if they have content made for tf2 which it turns out they can't use, why not port it to other proj... : Torias
            • Very similar to the Duke4 approach. I think Valve has adopted that strategy of not pimping out 100's of... : Crimsonbeak
            • they've probably found, hunted, and killed a bunch of bugs with the new engine by now. They're just not... : the archvile
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          I don't think they've said that all... you should stop making up stuff "they" have said... : Torias
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            actually they did, and their reason for it, like #48 said, is cos they've been working on other stuff.. : TwiLyght
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              nah, I know what quote you are talking about... and they didn't say "there isn't much done"... th... : Torias
              • i never quoted them as saying "there isn't much done", but at least you got the idea.. : TwiLyght
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  Blizzard has never released a game by the 1st release date they say. I mean even Brood Wars where they ... : Crimsonbeak
  • ready the dogs of CWAL! (or not, I have no idea what the rest of the guys are up to) : enigmatic
  • Hey, they make a pretty good product, just it takes forever(just like most good games). Makes me apprec... : Ace & Gary
• THey were working on TF2 even before HL was released in stores. I got the game on the first day and i ha... : Vladfrost

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  They cut out the Demons because they thought it would be too powerful. And SC took like 3-4 months of p... : Crimsonbeak
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    its been so long that i've forgotten what the 5th race was.. : TwiLyght
    • weren't there supposed to be 6 originally? : BLulight
  • That's just a poor excuse of theirs. If the race was going to be more powerful they can tone them down.... : Anti_dentite

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• and to 1 of 1 of my household : Crimsonbeak
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  Yep, and just like Starcraft they will dominate the world in talent. : jedi_27
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    when most of a country plays a certain game hardcore, a lot of "talent" would show up pretty fast : insta
    • agreed, heh. : BLulight

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  how about SIGMA ? should be out about then : jedi_27
  • Maybe Duke4Eva : Crimsonbeak

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  it really bugs me when developers never take advantage of the full power of PC games. No wonder the PS2... : jedi_27
  • It is because computer game makers, can't just make games for highend systems. They need to make it for... : Crimsonbeak

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• it more looks like myth2/3 actually.. : TwiLyght
• my god j00 are right! : Torias
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  i was going to say you guys are on crack. but yeah it does have that BW element to it. Thank gosh the ... : jedi_27
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    The concept sounds a bit similar too... Hero = Giant Creature... : futtbucker
    • yeah but this time we are not going to smack around our heros for eating poo : jedi_27

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• What exactly was originally promised for Diablo2 that didnt make it into the released game? Guilds. Ev... : johnny rotten

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  It's going to suck because they aren't rushing it out the door? Am I missing something? : x-eyd|mary
  • sheepr is making no sense : jedi_27

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• i was thinking the same, i let out a GASP when i saw it then i cried after reading it again, ah well i w... : JeBuS

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  yeah, remember Anarchy Online? http://www.somethingawful.com/games/anarchyonline/index.htm : the archvile
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    or WWIIOL ... : OverBurN
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      Well WWIIOL was pushed out by the publisher they wanted it out for the anniversary of D-Day. : Crimsonbeak
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        please stop! ohhhh the pain!!! I picked up that game and it still haunts my dreams! : jedi_27
        • yeah i bought it too... still waiting for the 1.20 patch.... : OverBurN
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        they should've waited for the 60th anniversary of Pearl Harbor. Sure, wrong side of the world, but th... : the archvile
        • no joke. and it might have looked a little better : jedi_27

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  Never had a problem with B.net till Diablo2 came out. : Crimsonbeak
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    that whole messed dorked with starcraft on BNET as well. that was a painful time. : jedi_27
    • yes, I had many a night where I would cry myself to sleep at night because I couldn't get in a game of S... : Crimsonbeak
• but you are right NOTEXT. With Starcraft each patch was designed to change the rules of the game to bal... : jedi_27

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  aka COMMUNIST HISTORY REWRITE! : enigmatic
  • Roofle. or like: WARNING! COMMUNISTS ARE TAKING OVER THE SHACK or however Maarten's movie w... : Odoyle

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  Ohh god forbid a Typo Nooooooooooo : Crimsonbeak
  • but it's fun to bust our boy Maarten's balls... :) : Former_HPB
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    well, we aren't being grammar nazi's... this is something on the front page of the site and it just read : Torias
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      Now if I brought up the dangling participle, that could be seen as nit picking! :) : Former_HPB
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        I learnt all the gramatical bullshit I needed to know in primary school... I never heard about anythi... : Torias
        • Honestly, I don't even know what a dangling participle is, but I heard the term somewhere and thought ... : Former_HPB

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  .... my post took 18 seconds longer because I put more love and care into my shacktag formatting.... : Torias
  • <nelson>HAHA</nelson> : the violator