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Max Payne @ Shack

by Steve Gibson, Jul 14, 2001 12:19am PDT

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Is it just me, or was anyone else expecting more from this game? I mean, besides the camera, what else new does this game have to offer. I suppose the plot apparently is good, but from the basice premise we already know not the most original thing in the world. I dunno, after waiting all these years and all the hype generated and to have to game only be about 20-25 hours I feel a bit let down. I mean, I'm sure it'll be a very good game, just it doesn't look like a great one.

Jul 13, 2001 10:32pm PDT

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Great write-up Steve! Too bad i really can't get this game till i buy a new pooter. :-(

Jul 16, 2001 7:34am PDT

Great write-up Steve! Too bad i really can't get this game till i buy a new pooter. :-( : jvox

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Worth reposting for those 3DR fanboys out there who were swayed by this article into purchasing this game in spite of the 3rd person thing:

3DR gets more money from the sale if you preorder directly from them than they would if you bought it at a store. They FedEx and you get a free mousepad www.3drealms.com

Jul 13, 2001 7:41pm PDT

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Steve, going to sound like a total suck-up, brown noser, but that was a very well written preview article. Covered what I am interested in and didn't feel like a total fluff piece. I hope to see more of these, thank you!

Game sounds amazing. I can't wait for the demo to try it out.

Jul 14, 2001 7:44am PDT

Steve, going to sound like a total suck-up, brown noser, but that was a very well written preview article... : TargetBoy

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Thoes screenshots dont look like new york. :/

new york aint that grimy dirty and dismal people....its actually a nice place.

bleh.

Jul 13, 2001 8:34pm PDT

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"Bullet-time" sounds exactly like the matrix mini-game from Conker's Bad Fur day to me.. It was EXTREMELY fun in that game.. I loved that mini-game.

Jul 14, 2001 6:00am PDT

"Bullet-time" sounds exactly like the matrix mini-game from Conker's Bad Fur day to me.. It was EXTREMEL... : myLeftTesticleofFury

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I think I'm gonna buy this. I just bought a new 1.2 GHz 'puter w/ a GF2 GTS Pro card, and would like to try it out on a somewhat demanding game... Also, Max Payne does look fun to play.

Jul 14, 2001 5:28am PDT

I think I'm gonna buy this. I just bought a new 1.2 GHz 'puter w/ a GF2 GTS Pro card, and would like to t... : dances with 1337

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Is anyone here getting sick of the FPS genre? I've played 'em all, from Doom 1 to Postal to Quake to UT to Kingpin to Half-Life, etc. and anon. And yet after all those years I'm not at all excited about Max Payne (Maximum Pain). As a fatter of mact, it even somewhat disgusts me. The same point, shoot, blow heads off, body parts, guns blazing style has run its course right into the ground! Maybe it all started when I played Thief series, Deus Ex, SS 2, and other games that only allow you to resort to guns and bloodshed when other thinking-based options look impossible. Even Hitman had the stealth and think element, and although graphic, it has more sophistication of perspective to offer gamers for their money. Undying was bloody, but had a large, mystical plot behind it with text-based narratives building plots to provide a spiritualism that instigated thought. But the "shooter" games seem to have cramped their own style. Does anyone else feel this way? If not, I'm perfectly content to be the minority.

Jul 13, 2001 9:08pm PDT

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I ain't Max Payne'in for any game that doesn't have multiplayer.. To those that think that's gay or whatever, I do NOT have to like the fact that there is no multiplayer just because you don't mind.. Just like I don't have to like cheeseburgers because you do..

SO KISS MY PIMPLY ASS!

Jul 14, 2001 4:57am PDT

I ain't Max Payne'in for any game that doesn't have multiplayer.. To those that think that's gay or what... : dn__

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its pretty cool but i think andone is gay

Jul 14, 2001 2:13am PDT

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- Why, because my opinion is different from yours? WTF these forums blow. : AMDZone

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2 things, the locked 3rd person camera was in MDK2 and highly praised. Second MDK2 also had useful slo mo with the black hole grenade.

Jul 14, 2001 12:33am PDT

2 things, the locked 3rd person camera was in MDK2 and highly praised. Second MDK2 also had useful slo mo... : Fred Garvin

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First off, the review was a decent read.

Competent as it was, though, the review didn't motivate me to buy Max Payne. The game's visuals just aren't that eye-catching -- the grand daddy of this genre, Kingpin, looked richer, more varied, and more menacing, and I would expect Payne to have gone far beyond Kingpin, which it hasn't. So far the game media looks fairly bland, only jazzed by gimmicks like "bullet time." Might try a demo, maybe, but Payne seems like a non-event being hyped much more than it deserves.

Playing through Undying right now, ton of fun. One of the amazing differences between Undying and most PC games is the contribution of a first rate author. Unlike the stupid "story" that usually goes with PC games, this one is engrossing and mood-heightening. I couldn't give two farts about what a game company thinks passes for a narrative. Hire more people of the calibre of Clive Barker!

Jul 13, 2001 11:32pm PDT

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I'll be getting it, should be entertaining for awhile at least.

why did they make Max look like a retard though? he needs to take that stick out of his ass

Jul 13, 2001 5:56pm PDT

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Looks like I'll be picking me up a copy of this. It'd be funny if this game outshines DNF, heh

(don't bite me dognose)

Jul 13, 2001 10:35pm PDT

Looks like I'll be picking me up a copy of this. It'd be funny if this game outshines DNF, heh (don't... : Boogieman

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if i preorder this game from them, will it arrive before, after, or the same time than eb?

Jul 13, 2001 6:11pm PDT

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New gameplay video:

http://pcmedia.ign.com/media/news/video/max_12_IGNpc.mov

Jul 13, 2001 9:41pm PDT

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Wow, Steve's review of MP is an enigma. The tone of the run-down didn't fit the overall 9.1 rating, so I'm left a bit more confused than when I began, except for some general gameplay descriptions I was wondering about. I didn't know whether to take the 9.1 seriously on that scale, either. Is this a tongue-in-cheek review, or the sincere scoop?

Jul 13, 2001 8:09pm PDT

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looks excellent. third person will be good...fakk2, heretic 2, and alice all did it very well

Jul 13, 2001 10:02pm PDT

looks excellent. third person will be good...fakk2, heretic 2, and alice all did it very well : hunterkiller

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It only got 9.1? Pfff..... I was expecting 9.2 at least. That does it. I am NOT buying this game!! :)

Jul 13, 2001 6:07pm PDT

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Someone need to poofread these article.

Jul 13, 2001 8:55pm PDT

Someone need to poofread these article. : fatboy

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Well Steve, you can tell 3D Realms that you sold me and they owe you a Christmas ham or something... (hear that George? ;))

Nice review, I'm not pre-ordering but I will pick it up when it hits the store.

I think that I'd prefer to have naked chicks showing up at my door telling me I won 10million dollars holding a copy of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire but I will settle for a new action game. :)

Jul 13, 2001 8:20pm PDT

Well Steve, you can tell 3D Realms that you sold me and they owe you a Christmas ham or something... (he : pimpstick

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I will purchase this game without hesitation.

Jul 13, 2001 8:20pm PDT

I will purchase this game without hesitation. : x-eyd|mary

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A bit late for this question, but given that the weapons are familiar to FPS players, I can probably assume that shit blows up in this game... when it does, what are the explosions like? Satisfying, bass-thumping, monitor shaking fireballs a la Duke3D/Quake, or good-enough-I-get-the-idea flashpuffs a la NOLF, or is it more about being bullet-soaked than anything?

Jul 13, 2001 8:02pm PDT

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* I WILL NOT BUY THIS GAME'D *

Jul 13, 2001 5:48pm PDT

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sounds like fun ill get the demo or something else

Jul 13, 2001 7:52pm PDT

sounds like fun ill get the demo or something else : ease_one

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I wonder if the guys at remedy have played Crisis Zone.

Jul 13, 2001 5:49pm PDT

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I was hoping for some comments on the music.

Jul 13, 2001 6:52pm PDT

I was hoping for some comments on the music. : pipboy

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I don't think I'm going to be getting it, it sounds neat, and looks pretty, but the fact that it's 3rd person (I know you said it's good and I believe you, but I just hate that kind of perspective for shooters) and the more important thing, it has no multiplayer (which is cheap and gay IMO), they ruined my desire. If the game came out a year or two ago, I might be impressed by the graphics (After all, it's just a picture on his face, and that's and ugly face with him squinting and stuff the whole time...) and might also not expect multiplayer, but since I do go through single player games (even the "hard" ones) in a matter of usually 3 days with minimal hours of play time each day, I don't see much be different. Unless they got true AI in there, it's not going to be good past the first time you beat it (no matter what they say), as once you've figured out how the AI reacts to things, you remember, and they don't, so you win.

I just think it's crappy that they'd not include multiplayer, that's mostly what killed it for me. I don't know, maybe the demo will change my mind (I doubt it though).

Jul 13, 2001 5:45pm PDT

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http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/max_payne/Max%20Payne/3/thumbs/Storage01.jpg

CRATES!!!! this is a good sign.

Jul 13, 2001 5:23pm PDT

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sounds like fun!

too bad i am broke :(

3rdpp aint that bad people.. well, i can handle it anyway, played through mdk1&2

Jul 13, 2001 6:33pm PDT

sounds like fun! too bad i am broke :( 3rdpp aint that bad people.. well, i can handle it anyway, p... : pyide

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Review sounds good... But sounds to me like Steve is sad for some reason.

Jul 13, 2001 5:56pm PDT

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sTeve, are there any hot chix0rs in the gaem? We've come to expect hot chix0rs from anything with 3D-Realms platered all over it. And we want our hot chix0rs, damnit! So, are there any?
-Rat

Jul 13, 2001 6:16pm PDT

sTeve, are there any hot chix0rs in the gaem? We've come to expect hot chix0rs from anything with 3D-Rea... : RatBastard

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Max Payne is played from a 3rd person perspective with a locked camera most of the time. The pivot point of the camera appears to be a point between the camera and the player instead of the way most 3rd person style games are. (Pivot at the player point) The subtle difference makes a FPS player feel a little bit more at home as the movements are a little less disorienting.

>:(

Jul 13, 2001 5:23pm PDT

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nicley written steve.
your descriptions is pretty much how I pictured it to be, good to have the reassurance, Ill definitley be buying this baby. :D

Jul 13, 2001 5:46pm PDT

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Cool.

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Jul 13, 2001 5:20pm PDT

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good preview steve. based on your info, i'll wait and check out the demo before buying. :P

Jul 13, 2001 5:45pm PDT

good preview steve. based on your info, i'll wait and check out the demo before buying. :P : Orthox

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I think I'll wait for OMM's review.

Jul 13, 2001 5:43pm PDT

I think I'll wait for OMM's review. : JudgeDredd

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no monster trucks? well, there goes my money. I can't believe developers have the audacity in this day and age to simply forget something like monster trucks. >:(

Jul 13, 2001 5:40pm PDT

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As long as you have current drivers, I predict very, very, very few graphics card compatibility issues. This should be one of the moist stable cutting-edge games released ever.

Moist is good!

Jul 13, 2001 5:36pm PDT

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