Brian Hook's New Thing

by Maarten Goldstein, Jul 12, 2001 1:52pm PDT

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By: PengUn x Show Full Post

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Ah the poodles are restless tonight ... arguing over their toy OSs ... NT/W2K/XP mWhahaha 0S X ... stop ... I will die laughing.

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Jul 13, 2001 3:31am PDT

Ah the poodles are restless tonight ... arguing over their toy OSs ... NT/W2K/XP mWhahaha 0S X ... stop : PengUn

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"Think of old, fun games like M.U.L.E., Lemmings, StarFlight/Elite, LHX/Comanche, and even X-Com."

I never liked those games and they were not fun. Lemmings and Comanche were novelties. Fun for a few minutes, but not fun for months and years like the games I play.

"These are genres that are just waiting to be resurrected again."

I'm going to have to disagree with you there Brian. Your headed for the $20 bargain bin if you think so.

Everytime I go to Best Buy, they have stacks of games on tables and shelfs overflowing with games that they couldn't even give away, let alone sell them. If they were like, "Here, you want this free copy of SWAT2?". I'd be like "No", and keep walking. They must have had 30 copies of that game spilling out onto the floor last time I was there.

I'd really like to see Apple just go away. They fragment the market and waste time and resources. Just let them go out of business so we can "focus" on the x86 PC platform.

It's bad enough already with the win/linux split. Which one do I want to use? Oh I don't know, I think I'll install both and duel boot.. Not!

Jul 12, 2001 2:23pm PDT

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If I got a job at id (which would never happen unless there was a sudden need for snow blowers and ice skates in Hell) I would probably never leave until they drug me out of there kicking and screaming (i.e. about two days after I got there and they realized that I suck, and don't really have any talents that would be useful at id). Seriously though, are there any folks other than the big three (John Carmack, Adrian Carmack, and Kevin Cloud) who were there from the beginning (or at least DOOM)? I hope BHook makes lots of good games (Hell, I also hope The Romero learned from Daikatana and makes something noteworthy for more than unfulfilled "bitch-making" claims).

Jul 12, 2001 9:38pm PDT

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If I got a job at id (which would never happen unless there was a sudden need for snow blowers and ice sk... : Vorlonesque
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- Willits was there since Doom2, but I think other than that its just 'The Big Three'. : johnny rotten
- Nope. The DOOM / DOOM2 crew list can be found here: http://www.trilobite.org/doom/who.html -Rat : RatBastard

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Hmmm, what exactly has Hook done to make him famous other than shooting off his mouth? He worked for id, big deal.

Jul 12, 2001 2:02pm PDT

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  - dorker for 3 itssss......GOOD! : Cygnus X-1
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  Didn't he write the first version of GLIDE for 3dfx way back when? : piser
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    - Actually he did. :) Or at least the overwhelming majority. : johnny rotten

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* HEHE'D *

Jul 12, 2001 7:58pm PDT

* HEHE'D * : Goat Whore

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"original games development targeting the untapped or overlooked segments of the game market."

i.e. games for the elderly.

Jul 12, 2001 2:11pm PDT

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i always thought this guy was in carmack's shadow when he was at id, i remember him demonstrating the quake3 engine at the gamedeveloper conference back when quake3 engine was bleeding edge state of the art, he seemed real smart.

Jul 12, 2001 2:43pm PDT

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i always thought this guy was in carmack's shadow when he was at id, i remember him demonstrating the qua... : facility
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  I think that's why he left in the first place, because he was in carmack's shadow and with carmack being... : paper chase guy
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    - in the best of cases, dealing with someone else's code is tough. Carmack is not known for nicely maintai... : xvdl
    - I wonder if he read Fight Club before writing that second one. : yoggoth

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I wish him the best. Hopefully he can make this work.

Jul 12, 2001 4:33pm PDT

I wish him the best. Hopefully he can make this work. : Quagmire

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Betcha the first game is a "groundbreaking" first person shooter :)

Jul 12, 2001 4:02pm PDT

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- I bet that Hook doesn't even ship a game! : hangingChad

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I've always had immense respect for BH. He's obviously really smart and knows his shit, but at the same time he can be humble. I remember reading one of his articles on VE that he wrote when he made the move to Verant and he gave massive props to Carmack. He said part of the reason he was leaving Id was to get out of Carmacks shadow and also so he would quit using Carmack as a crutch.
I'm paraphrasing here but I recall him having said "This way I can do more work myself too. Not that I'm lazy but it's kind of hard to spend an hour working on something myself when I can just as easily walk over to Carmacks office and ask him for a solution that he comes up with in 5 minutes. Yes folks he really is that good."

Of course I guess I'm a Carmack worshiper so I guess I would be drawn to that quote...

Jul 12, 2001 3:58pm PDT

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- i remember it too, doesn't mean that other BH can't program, just that John C solves problems fast. : -TKF-

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Is the the job change that makes Brian Hook fun?

Jul 12, 2001 2:18pm PDT

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- No sir, it's not. : project13

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Bedwetter B will always be fondly remembered for his crazy flame wars with Alex St. John (another loser) and with Tom Pabst (the most hated hardware reviewer on the planet). I hope the first thing he does when he opens his company is put out a .plan file where he talkes about everything that annoys him.

Jul 12, 2001 2:48pm PDT

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  - It's only slander if it's oral. Technically this is libel. : belzebutt

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hurrah, he's sure to succeed, brian hook has the best dictionary in the biz!

Jul 12, 2001 2:50pm PDT

hurrah, he's sure to succeed, brian hook has the best dictionary in the biz! : fatgraham

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Is this guy going to focus on games for the Mac platform.?...ummmmm.....I can see there is money in that.

Jul 12, 2001 2:18pm PDT

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- As a result of the above, games are too expensive to the consumer. $50 is an excessive amount of money to pay for something that, odds on, you may not even like. Coupled with fairly unyielding return policies, this turns off many buyers.

Gotta disagree with that. Compared to books, magazines, Cds, videos, movies, I think games offer excellent amount of money with both a lot playing for your cash, and often a pretty immersive experience too. That's not even taking into account multiplayer, user addons, internet communities, which usually come free and hugely extend the value for money.

As for games people might not even like, that's what demos and reviews are for (again, demos being a uniquely informative way to get a prior taste of a media product).

P.S. I really liked Lemmings....until I played Quake, that is :P.

Jul 12, 2001 2:42pm PDT

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So he's not going to work for Wild Tangent?

Jul 12, 2001 2:44pm PDT

So he's not going to work for Wild Tangent? : veggie

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Jul 12, 2001 1:53pm PDT

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this guy keeps getting fired...uh oh.

Jul 12, 2001 2:38pm PDT

this guy keeps getting fired...uh oh. : pimpbot

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"a Rev B iMac with 64 MB of RAM as their minimum spec machine, which means the vast bulk of the existing Mac market"

Go Apple, you rock!

Jul 12, 2001 2:24pm PDT

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- newsflash, the bulk of pcs out there aint too shit hot either dude. : johnny rotten

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When did that dillpickle leave Verant??

Last time I remember seeing him in his ask hook column on ve3d (probably over a year ago), he was saying he was working on a top secret project at Verant. I'm guessing it was planetside. I haven't really payed attention to what he was doing, nor should I...

Jul 12, 2001 2:07pm PDT

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- i never knew he left either, hmm. : cygnus

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Yet another one of id's egos.... *grumble*

The games were fun, back when it was about the games...

Jul 12, 2001 2:22pm PDT

Yet another one of id's egos.... *grumble* The games were fun, back when it was about the games... : drazz

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Why does everyone think they are a big man once they get a lick of industry experience. All of these little worthless guys running around starting their own company. Hey everyone, I'm going to start MY own company! I will focus on dynamically untapped scalable multiplayer gameplay innovation concepts. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jul 12, 2001 2:11pm PDT

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Why does ev... : JudgeDredd
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BRAN HOOK IS THE SMARTEST MAN EVAR!!!!!!!

Who the fuck would want to work for Mr. Ego?

Jul 12, 2001 2:13pm PDT

BRAN HOOK IS THE SMARTEST MAN EVAR!!!!!!! Who the fuck would want to work for Mr. Ego? : davecrazy

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Hey did Hook ever post here at the Shack?

Jul 12, 2001 1:56pm PDT

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- Cygnus X-1, you still like purple grass? :P : dadda2000

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But... but... it was 0 posts like 2 seconds ago!

Jul 12, 2001 1:54pm PDT

But... but... it was 0 posts like 2 seconds ago! : belzebutt

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first

Jul 12, 2001 1:53pm PDT

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