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Q3A Big Bang

by Steve Gibson, Sep 08, 1999 3:01am PDT
Related Topics – Quake 3 Arena

Nifty new Quake3 article of the day for you guys to read is this Salon bit on the Q3A "Big Bang" which goes into the impressive explosion of gamers on the internet which seems to have come just at the right time for Quake3's release. Thanks [5]Lecterz. What I found interesting was this quote from Graeme Devine:

"We will return to plot-based games in the future," explains Id developer Graeme Devine. "But this time we wanted to make the ultimate death-match game available, and we expect it will remain that for a long while."
As well as some of this criticism of the game:
For some old-time Doom and Quake fanatics, the new game seems like a lot of overhyped eye candy; Id has dulled its edge, they charge, to create wider appeal.




Comments

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  • I\'ll play quake3 because it\'s new... I\'m fucking sick of quake1 and quake2, I can\'t even go back to them after the quake3 test.

    the gameplay is well refined... you guys are only going to not buy it because everybody else IS, so you hang onto your old games like old people still listen to the music you grew up with...they always look stupid. your scared of change, it\'s kind of pathetic. You want to be DIFFERENT then everybody else, but think the same. Go ahead and think your special, but you looks pretty stupid to everybody else, you 1337 hax0r. (not even from a pop-culture perspective) quake1 seems so good because thats the way it\'s always been, change is SCARY.

    nothing (in any game) is more satisfying as good as a good LAN game of quake3. Playing on the internet gets kind of boring, full of dumb-fucks and llammas, and gets laggy, even on a cable modem.... but I can\'t get sick of playing on a LAN. LAN is the way to go.

    I\'ve spent hundreds of hours playing just 3 levels since it originally came out, and every day is more fun then the last. I don\'t know what it is if you don\'t like it, but your missing out.

    It seems like you guys are always whining. BOO-fucking-HOO, the footsteps are too loud, BOO-fucking-HOO the ammo boxes don\'t look real, BOO-fucking-HOO quake2 players are llammas.

    the purpose of a game is to have fun playing it... if you don\'t have fun stop whining... it can\'t even be FUN to whine. hell, if all the hardcore PONG players got their way we\'d still be playing PONG, with un-modified gameplay. Same graphics.

    \"No man, you can play PONG 2 at 320x240, thats too good looking, the game designers must have been focusing on the graphics too much so the gameplay probably sucks... but we havn\'t played it yet, our computers can\'t handle it, so we\'ll just spread it around that the game sucks and our shitty systems are still hardcore.\"

    if you want quake3 to be so much like quake1 and 2, why don\'t you just play quake1?! stop fucking WHINING!

    Maybe you just have a shitty computer and want to feel part of the the crowd still, but everybody is getting TNT2s, and you can\'t afford that so you try to bring everybody down... pathetic. STOP whining already, play the fucking game.

    I\'ve had more fun in quake3 in the last few hundred hours of play than in the thousands of hours playing quake1 and quake2, I love it.

    I should stop whining, before I sound hypocrytical... hehe, whining about the whiners.

    Quake 3 is a great game, possibly the best multi-player game ever.



  • #18, yet another freak of nature who reads what he wants to into other peoples comments...bravo, bravo, twas a jolly fine display of deficient wit
    who said anything about Q3Aers being newbie asshole llamas? you did.
    every arrogant i-own-the-internet newbie from q1&2 will go to q3a(provided they have the hardware) simply because its the hip thing to do, not because they like the gameplay...just because its hip
    you seem to take offense at my words very easily, and then try to support yourself with the \"i\'m old-school..lookit me!\" excuse...who cares, i played on DWANGO too, just like half the other folks here...oooo
    i played q3test like a fiend when it was first released...internet & lan...the graphics are, of course, lovely, but the gameplay, IMNSHO, isnt as FUN...
    for me, q3a\'s greatest feature is the power to clean q1/q2 out of a good deal of those newbies who have nothing better to do than join a server only to bitch about the quad






  • dink was on the right track, john carmack himself has said that Q3A is nowhere near its potential. he is not trying to build a good ctf or team game. he is building the engine to be the best deathmatch game. the reason Q3A will OWN is because of carmacks planning. he has made it so that it will be very easy for modmakers to take full advantage of the advanced engine he has created. Q3A itself doesnt take full advantage, but it is the building block that many kick ass mods will be developed for. personnaly, i cant wait for Q3A Weaponsfactory. that was one of thee best Q2 mods, and probably the best Quake teamplay mod ive seen. that is the reason Q3A will own....because of its versatility and all the mods that will coem from it.


  • I\'m a hitscan player...I don\'t get much of a charge outta missing ppl entirely and still killing them. I guess, it\'s just one of those things. Don\'t get me wrong, I still use the RL on occasions...like if I run outta slugs or bullets, or if I need that 200-Health in Q2DM1 really quick. Also, whenever I play CTF...you\'ll always see me pick up an RL...that\'s 5 extra Rox you can pass off to your teammates who enjoy that weapon. To each his/her own, right? I do like grenades though. There is nothing like banking a grenade off a wall and hearing your opponent DIE!!



  • Of all games to put down, I don\'t get you guys that bitch about everything wrong with Q3 before it comes out. You ever hear of anything called a \"track record?\"

    But anyway, whether you like Q3A\'s style of gameplay or not, just remember that the MODS for Q3 are going to be fricking awesome. The way it\'s set up with client and server code, mod authors can screw with client side prediction (which means flying planes and driving vehicles smoothly) as well as make all kinds of funky new interfaces. I can\'t wait to see what kinds of things certain teams put out.

  • #1: It\'s funny how people like insert_name_here think that Quake3 is only played by newbies. FYI, I played Wolf, Spear of Destiny, I\'ve been a multiplayer addict playing Doom constatly, then Doom2, Quake, QuakeWorld, Quake2. I\'ve played every game until the next came out and I liked the next game better than the one before. Not just because the graphics were better, but also because of the gameplay.

    Some of us aren\'t stuck in the past. Some of us have some hard-earned money to spend on upgrades. Some of us appreciate better graphics and tweaked gameplay.

    Calling Q3 players \"newbie asshole llama population from 1 & 2\" doesn\'t make you any more skilled/smarter, it just shows what an asshole you are. If you don\'t like the next Quake, just go fucking play Unreal ok? Or if you can\'t accept a change in gameplay just stick with Doom, it\'s perfectly fine if you just do that.

    What a moron.






  • \"Id has dulled its edge to create wider appeal.\"

    I think that is somewhat true about Quake 3. Personally, I\'d
    like to see the following (wishful thinking):

    - Quake 1 Rocket Launcher.
    - Quake 2 Rail gun.
    - Quake 1 player travel speed.
    - Quake 2 strafe jumping (with a 3 jump handicap).
    - Quake 1 packs after you frag someone.
    - QuakeWorld style physics
    - Armor that doesn\'t tick down.
    - More places in the maps that players can rocket jump up to
    for camping. (Yes, killing campers is entertaining).
    - More maps that look like Gothic Dungeons/Castles and
    a few with the space-age, warehouse Q2 look.








  • wont be a problem when q3a comes out :P
    the bots who have the hardware to play q3a will(they\'re most likely newbie graphics whores, explains thier inability to play), and the ones who\'re stuck in software mode are cannon fodder anyways

    a good deal, i\'d say roughly half, of the whiners and crybabies will flock to q3a because its newer...it happened before, it\'ll happen again
    also, dont think for a minute that q3a will be free of bots for long...obscurity isnt security

    call me crazy, but you just strike me as the kind of person who calls me a bot every single FUCKING morning..