Q3A Big Bang
by Steve Gibson, Sep 08, 1999 3:01am PDTNifty new Quake3 article of the day for you guys to read is this Salon bit on the Q3A "Big Bang" which goes into the impressive explosion of gamers on the internet which seems to have come just at the right time for Quake3's release. Thanks [5]Lecterz. What I found interesting was this quote from Graeme Devine:
"We will return to plot-based games in the future," explains Id developer Graeme Devine. "But this time we wanted to make the ultimate death-match game available, and we expect it will remain that for a long while."As well as some of this criticism of the game:
For some old-time Doom and Quake fanatics, the new game seems like a lot of overhyped eye candy; Id has dulled its edge, they charge, to create wider appeal.
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Comments
But Id still knows what it\'s doing ;)~
G.
Gareth
the gameplay is well refined... you guys are only going to not buy it because everybody else IS, so you hang onto your old games like old people still listen to the music you grew up with...they always look stupid. your scared of change, it\'s kind of pathetic. You want to be DIFFERENT then everybody else, but think the same. Go ahead and think your special, but you looks pretty stupid to everybody else, you 1337 hax0r. (not even from a pop-culture perspective) quake1 seems so good because thats the way it\'s always been, change is SCARY.
nothing (in any game) is more satisfying as good as a good LAN game of quake3. Playing on the internet gets kind of boring, full of dumb-fucks and llammas, and gets laggy, even on a cable modem.... but I can\'t get sick of playing on a LAN. LAN is the way to go.
I\'ve spent hundreds of hours playing just 3 levels since it originally came out, and every day is more fun then the last. I don\'t know what it is if you don\'t like it, but your missing out.
It seems like you guys are always whining. BOO-fucking-HOO, the footsteps are too loud, BOO-fucking-HOO the ammo boxes don\'t look real, BOO-fucking-HOO quake2 players are llammas.
the purpose of a game is to have fun playing it... if you don\'t have fun stop whining... it can\'t even be FUN to whine. hell, if all the hardcore PONG players got their way we\'d still be playing PONG, with un-modified gameplay. Same graphics.
\"No man, you can play PONG 2 at 320x240, thats too good looking, the game designers must have been focusing on the graphics too much so the gameplay probably sucks... but we havn\'t played it yet, our computers can\'t handle it, so we\'ll just spread it around that the game sucks and our shitty systems are still hardcore.\"
if you want quake3 to be so much like quake1 and 2, why don\'t you just play quake1?! stop fucking WHINING!
Maybe you just have a shitty computer and want to feel part of the the crowd still, but everybody is getting TNT2s, and you can\'t afford that so you try to bring everybody down... pathetic. STOP whining already, play the fucking game.
I\'ve had more fun in quake3 in the last few hundred hours of play than in the thousands of hours playing quake1 and quake2, I love it.
I should stop whining, before I sound hypocrytical... hehe, whining about the whiners.
Quake 3 is a great game, possibly the best multi-player game ever.
who said anything about Q3Aers being newbie asshole llamas? you did.
every arrogant i-own-the-internet newbie from q1&2 will go to q3a(provided they have the hardware) simply because its the hip thing to do, not because they like the gameplay...just because its hip
you seem to take offense at my words very easily, and then try to support yourself with the \"i\'m old-school..lookit me!\" excuse...who cares, i played on DWANGO too, just like half the other folks here...oooo
i played q3test like a fiend when it was first released...internet & lan...the graphics are, of course, lovely, but the gameplay, IMNSHO, isnt as FUN...
for me, q3a\'s greatest feature is the power to clean q1/q2 out of a good deal of those newbies who have nothing better to do than join a server only to bitch about the quad
Oh yeah, does anyone remember an interview a while back where they were saying that there would be server options, where you could make it \"quake 1 style\" or \"quake 2 style\" or \"classic\" or something like that? I don\'t remember exactly..but that\'d be neato too.
What would make you say such foolish things #17?
But anyway, whether you like Q3A\'s style of gameplay or not, just remember that the MODS for Q3 are going to be fricking awesome. The way it\'s set up with client and server code, mod authors can screw with client side prediction (which means flying planes and driving vehicles smoothly) as well as make all kinds of funky new interfaces. I can\'t wait to see what kinds of things certain teams put out.
Some of us aren\'t stuck in the past. Some of us have some hard-earned money to spend on upgrades. Some of us appreciate better graphics and tweaked gameplay.
Calling Q3 players \"newbie asshole llama population from 1 & 2\" doesn\'t make you any more skilled/smarter, it just shows what an asshole you are. If you don\'t like the next Quake, just go fucking play Unreal ok? Or if you can\'t accept a change in gameplay just stick with Doom, it\'s perfectly fine if you just do that.
What a moron.
1) NO Rocket Launcher, HyperBlaster or BFG
2) Rail Gun!! I want the old Rail with the swirl BACK!(100 damage)
3) The Almighty Axe and/or the ChainSaw as a default weapon...
4) ChainGun, baby!
5) Plasma Gun
6) Grenades and Grenade Launcher
7) 120 Health at Spawn
8) Either Shaft is Nice! =)
9) Quake2 Super Shotgun
10) If they are gonna call it \'the Quad\'...it might as well do Quad Damage!!
So, how about that for SHITTY weapons balance? =P
-KH
As long as it comes with a level editor so I can design a DM Map based on my workplace, I\'ll be happy.
I think that is somewhat true about Quake 3. Personally, I\'d
like to see the following (wishful thinking):
- Quake 1 Rocket Launcher.
- Quake 2 Rail gun.
- Quake 1 player travel speed.
- Quake 2 strafe jumping (with a 3 jump handicap).
- Quake 1 packs after you frag someone.
- QuakeWorld style physics
- Armor that doesn\'t tick down.
- More places in the maps that players can rocket jump up to
for camping. (Yes, killing campers is entertaining).
- More maps that look like Gothic Dungeons/Castles and
a few with the space-age, warehouse Q2 look.
Some idiots dont realize that the test is a version where id software isnt worried about.. they got Q3A the full game to work with. The engine looks hella good... once they add better team play and ctf ect.... we\'ll have hella fun. you guys are thinking the game will be exactally like the test with a few more player models and maps.... jeeze.. think about it your fools
read #1 and #2 to get some background on the post...
got coffee?
i dont bitch when i lose, i dont say \'fuck you man\' if i die and lose a rune/tech/quad
i play quake1/2 online for the gameplay...the GAMEPLAY...not to win, not to see pretty graphics
i have nothing against newbies, provided they arent asshole llamas...
perhaps i hit a nerve? \\:-|
the bots who have the hardware to play q3a will(they\'re most likely newbie graphics whores, explains thier inability to play), and the ones who\'re stuck in software mode are cannon fodder anyways
a good deal, i\'d say roughly half, of the whiners and crybabies will flock to q3a because its newer...it happened before, it\'ll happen again
also, dont think for a minute that q3a will be free of bots for long...obscurity isnt security
call me crazy, but you just strike me as the kind of person who calls me a bot every single FUCKING morning..
that squishy white filling. uhh, o god, bleh.. bleh.. bleh....
bleh... blehh...