AMD Goes Dual

by Maarten Goldstein, Jun 05, 2001 7:33am PDT

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Anands review does not have q3 benchmarks! For shame.

Jun 05, 2001 7:53am PDT

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Anands review does not have q3 benchmarks! For shame. : notext
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  Anands review does not have q3 benchmarks! if the os and the application are not written to part... : emacs
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    Q3 has smp support though doesnt it? (dont know if thats what the problem is heh) : hohoh0
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      Correct, and even if the performance boost is small, it would still be nice to see a direct comparison o... : |nEo|Blackhawk
      
      Tom's review has Q3 benchmarks. Dual Xeon wins on (I assume) Demo001, but Dual AthlonMP wins on NV15Dem... : drazz
  - r_smp : Turd Ferguson
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  2 x 1.2 TB (MP) w/GF3 = ~170fps in Win2K with /r_smp 1. : koneill
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    what res? I get 174 fps now in 1024x768x32 with an athlon1.1 and GF3, win98se. : .spanky.
    - yeah... oc'd like hell you do, and don't even THINK of telling me otherwise. i test machines much faste... : koneill

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I'm only just beginning to understand computer hardware and how to compare them to their counterparts.

I don't know how to tell apart CPU's of couse I know that MHz is how much instructions the processor can carry out per second. So how is AMD's top chip so much more powerful than Intel's that it tops it in performance when Intel is around 0.4 Ghz ahead of AMD?

Up to this point I have just taken the word of the insiders and thought of AMD as the superior.

Jun 05, 2001 6:34pm PDT

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I'm only just beginning to understand computer hardware and how to compare them to their counterparts.... : KingNothin32
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- no MHz is how many clock cycles the processor goes through in a second. 1 cycle does not necessarily eq... : timmie

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from Anand: If you can't tell by now, we're very impressed with the AMD 760MP chipset. In fact, one of the reasons we spent so long on this comparison is because the outcome of our results would influence what platform we used in our next database server for the AnandTech Forums. The choice is simple; the AMD 760MP is the DP workstation and server platform to have. It's reliable, it's high performing and it's very flexible; everything you'd expect from an Intel based server solution, except that it's from AMD instead.

Three years ago we wouldn't be caught dead recommending an AMD based server solution. Today, we'd be crazy not to do so.

Jun 05, 2001 5:48pm PDT

from Anand: If you can't tell by now, we're very impressed with the AMD 760MP chipset. In fact, one of : .spanky.

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hmm no one has made the ole "duron-duron" joke.... strange

Jun 05, 2001 3:23pm PDT

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hmm no one has made the ole "duron-duron" joke.... strange : mirage
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- I'm waiting for a tri-Athlon board myself. ATTACK OF THE WRETCHED PUNS!!! : drazz

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AMD looks to be dominating all the market sectors very soon with a speedy system like this. The Duron for the budget desktop, the Thunderbird for performance desktops and Athlon4 for the portable market. Now they got the server market in their hands very soon too, with great prices and top performance. It's sort of scary how great a company like AMD can get.

Intel is falling way behind now, but I hope they will catch up soon. I bet AMD's strategy is to get out as cheap processors as possible to get as many as possible in all the computers around the world, just to get THE title of the CPU market. When they do have it, they'll probably go for higher prices when they know even newbies got other words than Intel on their lips.

Jun 05, 2001 7:56am PDT

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AMD looks to be dominating all the market sectors very soon with a speedy system like this. The Duron for... : dadda2000
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How do you pronounce Xeon ?? Like Zeeon?

Jun 05, 2001 11:17am PDT

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How do you pronounce Xeon ?? Like Zeeon? : jjlaw
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- Yes, like "Zee-on." : Odoyle

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Less than a month ago Intel announced their new Xeon processor and today AMD takes away any reason to purchase that very platform. Intel can continue this game of pretending that AMD isn't a threat, but the truth of the matter is that they are and they happen to be a very big one.

hell yes

Jun 05, 2001 7:12am PDT

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Less than a month ago Intel announced their new Xeon processor and today AMD takes away any reason to pur : Turd Ferguson
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  what's even funnier is how the Athlons beat out Intel's chips on FPU performance. The P4 introduced SSE... : the archvile
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    No, the Athlon does NOT have SSE2, it has SSE (it's not double precision SIMD) : Toraz Chryx
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      Aye, but it will.... From Anandtech: The Athlon MP is the first non-mobile AMD processor to bring : Odoyle
      
      Odoyle RULES !! : Turd Ferguson
      
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      SSE != SSE2 They aren't the same thing, the Althon4/MP supports SSE (like the P3), NOT SSE2 (like the... : Toraz Chryx
      
      Err.. disregard that.. I missed the 'but they will in the hammer line of cpu's' part.. DOH I need ... : Toraz Chryx
      
      Eventually as in late next year. : Hmmm
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  Yup, yup. Having researched AMD and Intel extensively (before I dumped lots of money into AMD stock), In... : Diabolic
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    I dont know if they are the best in the industry, cuz their new chips is not totally new architecture, w... : 88mm
    - what is wrong with improving upon current architecture, i mean really if the 1.2GHz athlon can beat a 1.... : Turd Ferguson

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The only real threat I can see AMD facing is their shift to .13u fabs. Intel is ramping clock speed FAST. They're expected to hit 2ghz-2.2ghz on their current .18 process this year (3rd-4th Q). If intel gets a 4-6 month window where they're at .13u and amd is not then they'll be able to open up a decisive performance advantage for the first time in almost 2 years.

Jun 05, 2001 10:12am PDT

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The only real threat I can see AMD facing is their shift to .13u fabs. Intel is ramping clock speed FAST : johnny rotten
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  yup, cause AMD doesn't go .13 until early 1Q of 01 : Turd Ferguson
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    uh, you mean q1 of 02 surely?.. (since we've already HAD Q1 of 01 :)) : Toraz Chryx
    - me smokum big rock : Turd Ferguson
  - Actually if their .13 ramp is only 2-4 months behind intel then they wont have anything to worry about. ... : johnny rotten

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Socket A is with us at least until some time in 2003; which is a LONG time away in chip-years.
just another reason why AMD pwns

Jun 05, 2001 9:21am PDT

Socket A is with us at least until some time in 2003; which is a LONG time away in chip-years. just anot... : Turd Ferguson

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SHEXSHY

though i'll definitely hold off for a while on this.

Jun 05, 2001 9:17am PDT

SHEXSHY though i'll definitely hold off for a while on this. : Naim

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Weird how Anand's review said that there would be no reason to not run an ATHLON as a server and the shack says wait wait....

Jun 05, 2001 9:02am PDT

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Weird how Anand's review said that there would be no reason to not run an ATHLON as a server and the shac... : indeego
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- because the cheaper, non-server (MPX) boards will be out in a few months. : drazz

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they are comparing the benchmarks to dual xeon 866s and 1 p4 vs dual 1.2 athlons, MMMM of course the athlons will win. Wait until intel releases the itanium during this month mmmm dual 1.7

Jun 05, 2001 8:15am PDT

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they are comparing the benchmarks to dual xeon 866s and 1 p4 vs dual 1.2 athlons, MMMM of course the athl... : 88mm
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- www.accelenation.com have benches between a 1.7Ghz dual Xeon rig and a 1.2Ghz Dual Palomino rig.. : Toraz Chryx
- look here, they ARE using the xeon 1.7GHz (he doesn't read does he) http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.htm... : Turd Ferguson

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The Dual 1.2ghzs on all reviews win HAND DOWN over ANYTHING else out there on this tyan board. Also - 2 years + work on this means THIS IS A DAMN STABLE SYSTEM DESIGNED FOR HARDCORE SERVING! You cant get anything x86 based more powerful then this and more stable then this!

Jun 05, 2001 8:33am PDT

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The Dual 1.2ghzs on all reviews win HAND DOWN over ANYTHING else out there on this tyan board. Also - 2 ... : rosewood
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- IT WINS ALL BENCHMARKS FOREVAR#*(%$# unless you're doing video. : avixe

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from AnandTech:

The Athlon MP (including all previous Athlon variants and the Duron) uses a five-state MOESI protocol instead. The MOESI protocol adds another state known as the Â“OwnedÂ” state.

h4w h4w h4w!!!!

Jun 05, 2001 7:47am PDT

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from AnandTech: The Athlon MP (including all previous Athlon variants and the Duron) uses a five-state : drazz
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- Ha! Word : avixe
- taht si teh coolesty quoet EVAR!!!1 : Odoyle

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I read the Anandtech article earlier this morning. Good stuff, but as I'm looking to create a killer gfx design and video capture station all that megaserver stuff went over my head.

I'm thinking a single proc Athlon machine may be sufficient, though a dual-athlon would really sooth my ego :P Not like it needs it anyways....

Jun 05, 2001 7:48am PDT

I read the Anandtech article earlier this morning. Good stuff, but as I'm looking to create a killer gfx... : Odoyle

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And to think the joke used to be

1.21 GIGAhertz!?!?!?!?!?!

Sigh....my pII 233 is sitting on the other desk...

Then there's the 486 in the basement....the computer that made me a geek...

**sniff**

Jun 05, 2001 7:46am PDT

And to think the joke used to be 1.21 GIGAhertz!?!?!?!?!?! Sigh....my pII 233 is sitting on the oth... : st0ck

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decided to make it a big one eh goldstein?

Jun 05, 2001 7:40am PDT

decided to make it a big one eh goldstein? : Sniper21

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man i wish this board was cheaper, $560 is alot of cash.

Jun 05, 2001 7:27am PDT

man i wish this board was cheaper, $560 is alot of cash. : Turd Ferguson

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Hmmm Dual 1 GHz AMD....ohh yea

Jun 05, 2001 7:07am PDT

Hmmm Dual 1 GHz AMD....ohh yea : Ominous

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First?@!?!?!?!?!?

Jun 05, 2001 7:06am PDT

First?@!?!?!?!?!? : butch_toenail

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