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• when i get home in 5 hours... :-) : -TKF-
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  yeah i do... there were 190 or so posts... I'll grab his initial post... want some of the well written ... : Torias
  • What did he do? : -TKF-
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    I want the original post.. no need for the opposing views, I'm sure there will be quite enough here.. :) : Steve Gibson
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      05/22/01 3:16 pm Yes its true, they claim I annoy them. If you like me, stand up and fight this absur... : Torias
      • is there any proof he's gonna be banned? : Jonathan
      • anything from Dynamix? Official announcements, company posts? : the archvile
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        Oh they are just banning him from the messageboard or banning him from playing tribes2 online? : Steve Gibson
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          I don't know from what he said and their reaction, it looks like the whole game. but there has been : Torias
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            making fun of moms should not be banned : lacker
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              making fun of a guy's mum who just had a stroke is kinda tactless / harsh.. : Torias
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                yeah but so is making fun of a mom being a crackwhore/dicksucker, etc...any of these could be true and t... : lacker
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                  U think anyone would post a: "I'm so sad my mom i a crackwhore.." : -TKF-
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                    "See? Your mom is on the cover!" : the archvile
                    • sonofabitch! : lacker
            • sure, for a little playful "Yo Mama!", but this was different. : the archvile
      • oh yeah, his subject line was "Friends, Dynamix is gonna ban me." : Torias
      • ehmmmm? BAN THIS MOFO! : -TKF-
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  I don't see anything on that at TribalWar; is this an exclusive? : the archvile
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    hardly it's just a forum post... it's something i wouldnt really expect to see at a tribes2 fan site tho... : Steve Gibson
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      I haven't seen anyone official comment on it, so it may be this guy making it up to be an ass... and ... : Torias
      • he was described as a juvenile troll who constantly tk'd on servers... The way to solve this should b... : -TKF-
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        I can understand individual servers banning someone who teamkills, but Dynamix themselves are banning hi... : the archvile
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          On the other hand some people have been known to join CS servers, fake nicking and tk/td for hours... I ... : -TKF-
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            yeah, for the dumbasses who just won't learn; I agree on that. One of his points (and a good one at tha... : the archvile
            • Hmmm lets say he bought a Waterpistol... Should he be alowed to Spray water everywhere and on everyone b... : -TKF-
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        cool, thanks for looking into it... i guess the patches have slowed down enough that i can install the g... : Steve Gibson
        • When you do you are in for a treat :-) (No more random Headshots!) Oh and it takes time getting used to... : -TKF-
        • if you play the game for fun, and try not to win at first... just learn some of the new skills... it's q... : Torias
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  i am all for asshole TK'ers getting banned foreevah fromt he game....cheaters too... : lacker
  • I don't think they should be banned for life... but they should be banned. : Cosmicfool
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    I don't think they should be banned for life... but they should be banned. : Cosmicfool
    • you should be banned for double-posting :0 : lacker
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      whoopsie. I agree though; a permanent ban is pretty steep for a retail game. One month should be the... : the archvile
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        that or the users should take it into their hands a little more. There's a reason that there is the abil... : klerck
        • yeah, the inbuilt player voting is pretty good... a lot of things in tribes are quite elegantly done...... : Torias
        • Players.. they don't have time for that unless it's about themselves... : -TKF-
    • softy... They can buy a new key... : -TKF-
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      Bans for doubleposters :) : Jonathan
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        Banned for being slow : -TKF-
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          little harsh for mere seconds don't you think? : Jonathan
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            I'm a Nazi Admin :-) : -TKF-
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              Ha - banned for being a Nazi : Jonathan
              • Thats ok.. i ban myself all the time : -TKF-
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    Where do you draw the line with 'cheater/not cheater' though? Eg, a lot of folks seem to think that t : Toraz Chryx
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      i thought the spray decoys were cool and funny... I was ashamed when i reacted to one... of a fucking... : Torias
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        <Nelson Muntz>HAA HAA</Nelson Muntz> I've never fallen for one TBH, Whenever I run into a group I usu... : Toraz Chryx
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          I only feel for it once... the first time i saw one... it's a very clever idea to be honest... : Torias
          • Yup, that's partially why I consider it a valid tactic rather than a cheat.. It's something that requ... : Toraz Chryx
      • hmm i think i will disable decals :-= : -TKF-
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      all you have to do to combat that exploit is to set cl_allowdownloads to 0. That way, you won't downloa... : the archvile
      • As I just said, I don't consider it an exploit. : Toraz Chryx

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  Jo-papa not like >:( : jo-papa
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    Does jo-pappa like anything except booze? : Sander Pilon
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      is the forum going right now? I was getting an error message about an hour ago... : Torias
      • What kind of message? : Sander Pilon
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  Who are all the CRAZY FOLKS posting on that board that I've never seen here before :( : klerck
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    I think those are your long-lost brethren from the MessageBoard. :P : Manwë Súlimo
    • did I post on the message board long ago?? I can hardly remember anymore! : klerck
• rox0r. : moz
• How do I post - can I use my shacklogin? : Jonathan
• Ug. No thanks. -Rat : RatBastard
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  What is this? I do not like it. It is not FRESH and IN MY FACE. It's all cutesy and hard on the eyes. : lbsn
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    I've got your fresh (just washed it this morning) and in your face (open up!) right here, pal! -Pants : FilthyPantsBulge
    • And I've got something for your bulge! (UT Announcer): Crotchshot! : Captain Crotchshot
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  somewhere along the line a whole bunch of people asked for ubb layout (I'm guessing the random guys who ... : Jonathan
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    That's the magic... flat mode http://shackforums.bord.net/~K882c300/A1/F1/t2_index?forum.sort=flat ... : Steve Gibson
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      Sander is a god - I may bow down and worship you all : Jonathan
      • and the sweet part is it shows nuked for the funk.y style but deleted on the ubb style :) : Jonathan
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      You don't want to know how badly that flat mode is broken in Netscape. It looks like you guys just po... : RatBastard
      • Yeah it'll be cleaned up for Netscape before it's announced as done. Still deep in development. : Steve Gibson
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        You should use a W3C supported browser. Not some random collection of bugs and bloat pretending to b... : Sander Pilon
        • somebody is put in the smackdown on the comments : Jonathan
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      steve, been talking at sander about this, and he said he'd look into it... I love what sander has don... : Torias
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        Heh a little wordy tonight? Yeah I've talked to him about it too. He isnt sure if his system can really ... : Steve Gibson
        • shit, didn't realise I wrote that much :) it's a minor thing, but yeah... he said that technically... : Torias
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          What I'm writing now is to replace a FORUM. Not something for the chatty bitches in ER/Werd. : Sander Pilon
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            :( but aren't us chatty bitches being shipped off to the forum? : Torias
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              Not THAT forum. : Sander Pilon
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                does steve know this? :) : Jonathan
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                  THIS - (except its broken now, page numbers are fucked) http://shackforums.bord.net/ShackNews/Depot... : Sander Pilon
                  • is it too late to get notifications to go with that first order? and perhaps a little of those subject t... : Jonathan
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                    ok. do they work off the same backend? will you be selling them as a matched set? or are they differen... : Torias
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                      www.bord.net as for the post number, bother me again when I work on that particular forum. Someti... : Sander Pilon
                      • ok cool... get steve to post something on the front page saying "now is your chance to hassle sander int... : Torias
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                      while we're talking about small is the font smaller than the shack or is it just me? : Jonathan
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                        increase your resolution lately? : Sniper21
                        • nope stayed the same for ages - just the board seems to use a smaller font than the shack : Jonathan
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                oh. i'm confused. that's what i was talking about... I thought there was only going to be one... : Torias
                • http://www.shacknews.com/funk.y?id=1307750 : Sander Pilon
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      steve pointed me to: flat mode http://shackforums.bord.net/~K882c300/A1/F1/t2_index?forum.sort=flat : Torias
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        I think it's turned off right now, I can't post either : klerck
        • okies : Torias
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        Oh. That has been fixed a few minutes ago I think. You should use this, It's the only url that pr... : Sander Pilon
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          is there a flat mode? is that the same forum that has the nice flat mode? do you have 2 forum techno... : Torias
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            Just a bunch of templates. The engine is the same for all of them. : Sander Pilon
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              could you do a "template" to simulate a new forum to go along with each werd / fp / er post? : Torias
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                The problem with that is not the template, but the interation with the newsengine and the number of ... : Sander Pilon
                • well, we are talking about 2 virtual forum templates a day... maybe if you stored a a month of them at a... : Torias
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                  also... bord costs you NOTHING We host your Bord on our servers for free! All we ask for allowing : Torias
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                    that's old :) it will cost you something later on. : Sander Pilon
                    • it's still on the front page... update the front page maybe? : Torias
    • Uh. Actually - those 'F1' urls (A1/F1) are broken right now. They "look" allright, but they're not. ... : Sander Pilon
• Me no like :( : Zoesch
• its alright. I assume there will be multiple thread-starting posts under each news article? Ie, th... : Raziel
• Uhm.... You're not going to use these for the comments file, are you? If so, I hate it. If not, I ... : 0Wingfan
• that layout sux, someone post only one phrase and it fills out half of my screen (1024*768 on 17")!!!!N... : rookieone
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  One Word... ASS : Hizzow
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    I suppose this is not insulting to Steve? He put a lot of work into this and your idea of postive fee... : Rocco
    • of course steve didn't work on it : Jonathan
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  It's ugly, but practical : drucifer
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    That's one way of describing the shack :) God knows I'm a louzy painter and designer. I'm a progr... : Sander Pilon
    • I think it'll work out ok : drucifer
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      My first programming class at uni I was told programming is an art and is one of the strongest creative ... : Jonathan
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        I always disagreed with that. Programming is straightforward stuff. You have a goal (what you want t... : Sander Pilon
        • well he made a pretty good case but I forget it now. But the point was that even tho its fairly straight... : Jonathan
        • I disagree both ways.. Coding IS an art.. but not in the way that music and painting are.. It's more... : Toraz Chryx
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          na i have to agree with Sander because in order to be a good artist u need talent whereas in progrmming ... : rookieone
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            tell me John Carmack isn't talented then ;) : Jonathan
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              He isn't. He's a brilliant mathematician, he knows his computer optimization codes, but that's as fa... : Sander Pilon
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                noooo he's the carmack... i view him like the uber geek... I dunno, say what you will about "T... : Torias
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                  Because he was the first to bring well documented, ages-old 3d technology from the server and mainfr... : Sander Pilon
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                    I'm not saying he's a gifted artist. commander keen wolf 3d doom quake and quakeworld... I se... : Torias
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                      That's not the point. The point was - "Is Carmack an ARTIST?". I dont think he is, as programmin... : Sander Pilon
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                        "as programming isn't an artform" This is YOUR definition.. Is it an art to shit on paper and pin it ... : -TKF-
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                          the "I don't know what art is but I know what I don't like" argument doesn't apply when making the choic... : Jonathan
                          • the line between art and science is becomming more and more blured isn't it? Some demos from the Amiga ... : -TKF-
                      • oh, sorry. I don't see programming as an art. code design / architecture might be... dunno.... ... : Torias
                      • oh btw, I was replying to this sequence of posts, where initially #1974 X By: Jonathan [@May 25t : Torias
            • oh he is 4 sure, but that aint the point.Talent is what makes u different from ll the othes, but u can s... : rookieone
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            yeah, you can learn to be a good painter. Why do you think there are so many art schools around? Even th... : Sniper21
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              i don't agree with that.U can leran how to paint but this doesn't get u anywhere without talent becasue ... : rookieone
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                Perhaps the most important thing about a programmer is (ironically) not his programming skills, but ... : Sander Pilon
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                  i guess Sander wants to upset the Carmack-worshipers!!! : rookieone
                  • he's trolling!!! i don't see how anyone can argue the carmack isn't talented at coding... : Torias
                • you seem to be talking about what programmers need to move beyond being a simple coder which really is m... : Jonathan
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                talent doesn't mean inspiration and genius. And plenty of painters have made it without being geniuses. ... : Sniper21
                • maybe you're right, comparing programming and art is like comparing apples and oranges. Yet i don't kno... : rookieone
          • there are some people who are naturally more adept at programming than others... people who intuitively ... : Torias
• text is a bit small....... : abrasion

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• what did he do to get banned? : fatbeaner
• they can kick you out of disneyland for shouting at everyone and throwing the icecream at micky : filthysock
• what did he do? : kenmis
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  People get kicked out of sporting events all the time. Pay or no pay if you're a fuckwit you get the boo... : Steve Gibson
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  • yeah, this is no different than getting banned in EQ or UO or whatever. : kenmis
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    they prolly DO have somethin like that in the disclaimer they put up. but people really dont read that s... : fatbeaner
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      Yeah probably so. : Steve Gibson
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        nope, they don't. I just read the EULA from the CD.. nothing in there about reserving any right to ban o... : klerck
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          can you point me to a link thats about this ban? : fatbeaner
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            It's in the T2 in-game forums. As soon as you go into the forums, sort by the number of posts and you sh... : klerck
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              I still can't get into Tribes 2 :( my ISP sucks major ass : hawkeye
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                nothing else available in your area? : moz
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                  nope, just shitty, half assed, one-way cable but no, they aren't a monopoly, nope, no sir! DSL is 2-4 : hawkeye
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                    ah shit that sucks :< we cannot benefit from your large collection of umm stuff. : moz
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                      if I ever become rich I'll buy a T1 and bless you fine gents with the best in sorted high quality pr0n : hawkeye
                      • If I ever get a hold of a t3 and a server comp, I already know what the name of the server is going to b... : Poor Yurik
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              Seeing as there are some of us here who don't have a copy of T2, how about some more information? -Ra... : RatBastard
              • this is what the guy posted: Yes its true, they claim I annoy them. If you like me, stand up and figh : Torias
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    yeah I'm trying to find the EULA. If they're going to do this, too, they should make you agree to it eve... : klerck
    • I saw something once about peoples behaviour in the inbuilt forum / email system, how you can banned fro... : Torias
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      I'm very sure the EULA covers that and that they are well within their legal rights. Some people are ... : RatBastard
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        No, it's not in the EULA. I read through it completely and saw nothing about reserving the right to ban. : klerck
        • It doesn't have to be in the EULA. It could be anywhere. I'm still sure they are withing their legal... : RatBastard
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    why do you always assume the worst? You are as bad as one of those people who says if a person gets a... : Rocco
    • Shouldn't you be filming some pr0n : Zoesch
    • insulting the webmaster is never a good idea :P : klerck
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      "I'll talk about people being called 'Fuckwits' and then insult the intellegence of the webmaster of the... : Hizzow
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        hey less than halfwit, I never said anything about Steve's intelligence, only that he is not the most op... : Rocco
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          Ok.. So he's a Less open minded person for stating a general fact. And i'm "less than a halfwit" for ma... : Hizzow
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            does it hurt to be so painfully stupid? Your allegiance to steVe is duly noted... : Rocco
            • I don't know, Does it hurt to be stupid? You really should Stop and re-read the entire thread befor... : Hizzow
    • he was talking in general, not really commenting on this specific case. fucktard : Torias
• I have issues with that too... if someone is too much of a fucktard to be in the community, instead of a... : Torias
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  Good. It's about FUCKING TIME that companies started banning the malicious motherfuckers that ruin the : Poor Yurik
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    not to mention THEIR time and money as they have to devote so much of it to defeating cheats. : kenmis
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      No shit. I am totally for perma-bans for ANYONE who cheats. Fuck them all, they've plagued online gami... : Poor Yurik
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        Sad thing is they're not going away, they never will. :( : kenmis
        • They will if you put the fear of banning into the majority of them. Most cheaters aren't hardcore cheat... : Poor Yurik
        • Funny thing, I can get on any online game I want, no matter how much of an asshole I am without ever g... : RatBastard
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    I wouldn't have any problem with it if they'd give the money back when they do it, and since there's not... : klerck
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      They give the power of banning to all server admins, and in essense, they are the admins of the master s... : Poor Yurik
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        yes, but there's a difference there. When they ban you from the entire game, they're taking away what yo... : klerck
        • 5150 rules, that sounds fuckin' sweet : hawkeye
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          No, there's no difference. If they feel compelled to ban him (effectuvley closing his account) for ab... : RatBastard
          • I think tho if you were to be banned from all cinemas after having paid to watch films for the rest of y... : Jonathan
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            well, I think the reason that most people see getting kicked out of a theater and not getting their mone... : klerck
            • also cinemas tell you watch they expect from you at the begining of the film, you know the little film a... : Jonathan
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          I don't like their rules. people should be allowed to hide with the the enemy flag wherever the hell... : Torias
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            heh, I've played on pub server like theirs for years with some of the best of the best, so I guess I'm u... : klerck
            • I don't dispute their right to have house rules. they pay the bandwidth bill, they supply the server har... : Torias
          • They have a rule that designates where you can and cannot snipe in a game filled with open terrain? Rem... : Poor Yurik
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      They don't have to refund money on accounts closed because of end user abuse, and very few companies b... : RatBastard
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        yeah if they refund the money they'll go bankrupt. why should they lose money because some idiot doesn't... : kenmis
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          They'll lose a few dollars by refunding it at most because you keep the box, the cd, and the jewel case. : klerck
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            And twit boy might learn a valuable lesson if he's out the money. You screw uo and get kicked out you... : RatBastard
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              you know, we STILL don't know what the guy did. unless i missed it. : kenmis
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                apparently he was really quite mouthy on the forums. : klerck
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                  there's gotta be more - mouthy on the forums - what next? banned for shooting your own teammates? or may... : Jonathan
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                    Apparently he was harassing and threatening people or some shit. : Poor Yurik
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                      If this is true, they should have just banned him from the forums. Only cheating should be punished by ... : Poor Yurik
                      • I can tell you pretty securely that there was no cheating in T1 at all, and there hasn't been any in T2 ... : klerck
                    • eh? well ban him from the forums and tell people who runs servers to look out for that person - he could... : Jonathan
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              with things like UO, they're pretty clear in the EULA that all you paid for at the store was the CD, and... : klerck
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                You keep mentioning the EULA, because that's all you've checked for Tribes 2, right? Apparently there's... : Poor Yurik
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                  hm. I don't recall getting a dialog box when I signed up. I just put in all the information they needed ... : klerck
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                    When you hit "ok" on a EULA, whether you read it or not, you must abide by its rules. By breaking those... : Poor Yurik
                    • I didn't say that people shouldn't be held to it if they didn't read it. What I said was that I can't ev... : klerck
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                      EULA's aren't worth the paper they aren't written on. click through contracts are a load of crap. ... : Torias
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                        Most stores in the US have excellent return policies. (even with open box, 30 day return, zero reshelfi... : Poor Yurik
                        • yeah, i'm not disputing that, i was just pointing out that local laws override eulas and store return po... : Torias
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                          heh no, most major us software retailers are 10 days, and EB is the only one I know that will take it ba... : klerck
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                            I returned FAKK 2 to Software Etc a week later, and the reason I told them was that the game was too god... : Poor Yurik
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                              heh, then those guys probably broke the rules for you :) Do you go in there a lot? If you get to know... : klerck
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                                well, maintaining a positive customer relationship will make them more money in the long run... if so... : Torias
                                • I'm not entirely sure what happens when it's returned. I think you're right about the company getting a ... : klerck
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                                No. I've asked about the return policies at quite a few places around here, and they are all very liber... : Poor Yurik
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                                  hm, well then it sounds like it was mandated by law. Babbages/Software Etc.'s policy is to not take back... : klerck
                                  • Comp USA is very liberal as well. : Poor Yurik
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                            that's what i mean. Like, if someone looked at the system requirements for Ultima 9 (adventures in the l... : Torias
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                              if you stand your ground most retailers will bite the bullet and take it back. Its less hassle that way ... : Jonathan
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                                hehe, I'm just saying it should be a legal right... you american's, always going on about this right ... : Torias
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                                  heheh I'm english - have the right to return stuff built into my laws :) : Jonathan
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                                    hehe, cool, that's where we got ours from too :) : Torias
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                                      I now even have seven days to return anything I bought of the net - with absoutely no reason needed for ... : Jonathan
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                                        hehehe. some kind of "bill of rights" could be nice... a central document outlining all our basic fr... : Torias
                                        • makes it more fun - there's laws there that most people don't even know about which means that they can'... : Jonathan
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                            i worked at babbages, 7 days, open box or no, we'd take it back and give you back your money. that was a... : kenmis
                            • yeah, it's different now. The Babbages guys from my mall buy stuff from my store if they aren't entirely... : klerck
    • well, you still get LAN and single player play, so maybe they can get around it that way. i dunno, chea... : kenmis