Duke4 & Software Rendering

"It looks like DukeNukem4Ever is in fact still in development."

LAWL

Huh... Maybe they decided to put software back in... Thus the delays n' all *coughs*

\"Q3 blows for single player\"

Do you have a secret for us? Has Q3A gone on sale already? It\'ll probably be bog-standard for single player yes, but don\'t talk shit before you eat a burrito.

Don\'t forget Unreal was written for 3dfx and we are now in the post-Glide era. How well will Unreal engine games run on non-3dfx hardware? That will be interesting to see.

oop, btw, I think the Unreal engine is the perfect choice for DNF, as well as some RPGs that are using it.

Hopefully we\'ll see some really nice Q3 engine stuff.

12: High poly counts and large open areas are not the same thing. Unreal is a beautiful engine, but it\'s poly counts ARE kinda low.

Comparing Q2 and Unreal engines doesn\'t really make sense. Both of the guys who programed them will tell you that they were designed to do different things. The Q2 engine was designed for, well, Q2. It was a big deal what with OpenGL and everything, and it\'s fast. The Unreal engine is such a hog because they had to make some design decisions, and they wanted big open areas and stuff like that. You can compare it to Descent3 having and indoor and outdoor engine I *guess*.

#11 low poly counts when compared to what? Q2 could not handle large areas like unreal. And that is one of the main reasons DNF switch to the Unreal engine I believe. The quake engine is for making \"rat in a maze\" type games.
And if you ever tried your hand at Q2 Halflife map making (or any Q2 based game) you will know that bsp\'ing a map is a bitch. This is CPU intensive procces takes hours and hours to vis and bsp a medium sized map; a map as large as some of the Unreal maps we\'ve seen would take days to render. (I have a p2400 BTW)

Unreal maps do not use this proccess. Unreal maps only take a few seconds to go from the map editor -> playing your map in the actual game. I have never heard of his unreal \"low-poly\" count thing before, and have never personaly run into that problem.
And the best part is the Unreal textures and lighting STILL look better than any Q2 based game.
And Unreals Fractal Textures....ummm soo sweet.

No doubt DNF will use all the features of the Unreal engine + push it even futhur, and we will get a kick ass game.

Don\'t get me wrong, I still love playing all the quake games. But since you brought up map limitations, I thought I should say something.

Sorry if you still don\'t understand my point, but I guess you may need some mapping experiance to understand what I\'m trying to explain.

#9: The Unreal engine has to use low-poly counts or else it chokes. That\'s why Unreal levels are so blocky and there are so few monsters in them. They try to make up for that by using nice textures.

If somebody converted a Quake3 level at a high tesselation level to Unreal, it would probably run at like 5fps.

#7: It will more likely come out in the next millenium :)


By the way, where the hell is that guy who writes * N U K E D *?? This is the thread man, this is your chance to post something on topic!

Duke would frag 3drealms if he knew how incompetant they are. then hed say something cool like \"eat shit and die\".

Go Steve! You impress yourself! Perhaps you should take pictures of yourself in fancy clothes.... oh, you already did that...

;)

first post!

hah!

er.. hrm. I must be tired.