Duke It Out in Quake

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  I see your point. I loved playing D3D back in the day, but now its just too old. The maps were great... : dra.
  • they already said coop was not going to be possible. : -Panther-
• God knows I wouldn't be caught dead working on a mod that was sticking its neck out like this and these ... : ease_one
• #738 Oh lord... the gaming scene *really* needs a new face. A new company with a new platform. Would be ... : butch_toenail
• I can't agree with you there, George. I understood when id asked the Generations guys to stop on thier p... : x-eyd|mary
• {If there are a few typos in your post does that mean the game will have bugs?}g : indeego
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  The only thing that shocks me is how mean you guys are sounding. I mean, I can understand it is your copy... : firebone
  • it's very simple, and George has said it time and again, this would set a precedent for letting p... : -Panther-
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  #738 By: anon@3drealms.com [Feb 8th 2001, 02:24:53 am] "I just find it very amusing that developers a... : rOninDLuX
  • i find it amusing that bloody DNF hasn't been released. It was annouced before daikatana!!!! WTF?!?!? : firebone

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• George - I wonder long it will be until theres a post up on Planetcrap about this? :) : seemlar
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  These is not a big stink about "Duke saying "Yippee Kiya - mother fucker" in the Plutonium Pak? Or "Book : ease one
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    Do you have equally as much problem with id shutting down Generations? Just curious. : seemlar
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      I actually didnt follow that and I dont know what they were trying to recreate so i guess i am no commen... : ease_one
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        The only thing that pissed me off is a dude I know made a RA2 map that had all of the q1 dm maps as are... : dra.
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          people use q2 textures in q3 and and q3 textures in q2 ect.. i know id lets that slide : ease one
          • these maps had all the original q1 textures, it was a really kick ass arena... but it was axed. : dra.
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        The Staw Wars Q1 mod didn't get foxed, they just switched to Q2. http://swtc.telefragged.com/ In fact it... : Ogre[SBD]
        • check out Troops, the star wars based Cops parady. funny shit. see what *really* happened to lukes aun... : adnans
• GeorgeB... king of all assholes : myLeftTesticleofFury
• agreed george, - them cameo's from movie people - cool locations we will remember - luke, indiana, th... : abrasion
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  The missing line is "come get some". George does make some good points about the lines being "pulp cultu... : Ogre[SBD]
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    He's saying that nobody "owned" those lines at the time, so there was no trademark/copyright violation. : Vantage
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      Right. I'm saying if he's saying no one owns the lines then no one owns the maps. They're both "pop cult... : Ogre[SBD]
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        What? that's stupid. The maps are owned, copyrighted IP. The phrases were NOT because they had been us... : Vantage
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          Yeah right, and I'm a Chinese jet pilot. Its more than just the lines, the tone of voice, the context. I... : Ogre[SBD]
          • Pffffft. : seemlar

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• How did you find that? : Grey Loki

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  i'll be taking that! : ermac
  • so you think : MrShmoo

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• does that mean that this is allowed? http://www.shugashack.com/funk.y?id=800068 I think I see what... : hawkeye
• what about the original quake maps for q3? and then there was this really fun doom map I played that was... : MrShmoo
• From the Maps readme.. You may distribute this map(e1l8.pk3), provided you include this text file (e1... : kjeldsen
• surely the can "copy" the maps as well as possible in Q3, the maps will be 100% completely different ... : abrasion
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  I'm currently uploading the maps to http://www.klerck.org/duke3dmaps Send all cease and desist orders... : klerck
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    Big big thanx! Thanks to you I got `m! :P p.s.Damn 3D Realms, they`re so full of it they never have real... : rOninDLuX
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      Uh, you think they can watch for every nobody who puts out a map? These ones got major attention by b... : seemlar
      • Yep I figured that already cuz these maps aren`t the first Duke QIIIA maps I got...since I got Alleyq3 (... : rOninDLuX
• http://www.shugashack.com/funk.y?id=805399 : Ogre[SBD]

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  Whoa! : kjeldsen
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    where's keanu when you need him :) : MrShmoo
    • in the Matrix 2 : kjeldsen
• id != asswads : cygnus
• http://www.shugashack.com/funk.y?id=800068 : hawkeye
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  its ok to release a converter, the problem is they are redistributing copyrighted materials. : Hustlah
  • not for $$$ though....and it's probably better publicity than anything 3drealms does.. : MrShmoo
• The thing about that is, you had to have the original id wads to convert the maps, and it didn't include... : pyrotek
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  Am I the only one that thinks it`s odd Mr Broussard didn`t give an `reaction` on *this* tidbit? ;) : rOninDLuX
  • He's probably "working"! Hahaha... Actually his legal advisors probably told him to shut up to prevent a... : Ogre[SBD]

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  maybe it's because the original was so good? just a thought :) a Win32 port would be cool : hawkeye
  • Good thought...after all it`s just a beefed DooM clone. :P : rOninDLuX
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  Well the build source has been released. Port away! : Ogre[SBD]
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    Heh, does anyone want to make a port after this ruckus? :P George B, that`s the one to call if you want ... : rOninDLuX
    • Porting the engine to Win32 wouldn't be the issue. Ken still owns the rights to that and he released it.... : Ogre[SBD]

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• Damn bugger indeed! Shit to see all hard work melt away this fast by something that shouldn`t be :( : rOninDLuX

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• Can I make old duke3d maps for DNF? is that legal? or is it it only legal if you (3dr) say its ok? : ease_one
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  >>How have we abandoned the community? We take it and supporting it very seriously. Make mods for Duke, m... : Pontemonti
  • Well said Pontemonti...agree completely with you. If 3D Realms has shown anything it`s their warped sense... : rOninDLuX

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  not only that, but they got permission from id to make that. WOW, imagine that, asking permission fir... : ermac
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    I HAVE BEEN OWNED. You, sir, have clobbered me with your pure pwnage, deep insight, and dual exclamatio... : Fortyseven[BTEG]
    • * PWNED * : ermac
• fuck another sybex book, i just spend 300$ on some MCSE books from them : abrasion
• Technically, using or posessing a tool to convert a map isn't an IP violation unless you distribute the ... : Ogre[SBD]

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• sorry to be an ass, but if you could use the [reply] button over there      > , that'd be gre... : rekrul
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  That extra hour could be spent finishing the game. Don't like the bitching, cannot handle a little heat,... : Evangelion
  • in all seriousness, an hour of downtime and attention away from the project, will probably make it bette... : xvdl
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  Today I moved my entire office, listed heavy thingies, and crated a yet unnamed first person shootah. Be... : indeego
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    As a Duke fan, it is encouraging to me that he is up late and in front of a computer. : anon@netscape.com
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      #663, Uh, actually that can also be construed as a waste of time, as well... ;) : indeego
      • True... but "looking at the bright side" is all we've got! : anon@netscape.com
    • Unless he's like Carmack and gets up at 2PM and goes to sleep at 6AM :) : ZeBFFd00d
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  get back to work! : xvdl
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    Why don't YOU get back to work? eh? eh? : Vantage
    • NO, WHY DON'T YOU GET BACK TO WORK??!?!?!?! : xvdl
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  George, I`m afraid you need a looong hard look at the man in the mirror... That `superiority feeling` you... : rOninDLuX
  • I think you guys are the fucking whiners, by now George is probably printing your lame stupid coments... : abrasion

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• Those are some bigass ads right in the middle of the story. : nofxsux

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  So what does this mean for server ops? I'm gonna set up another server with these maps on it with autodo... : Ogre[SBD]
  • its also why people making these things should just keep their mouths closed about it until the entire p... : adnans

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• #808 I wonder if you could use different colored textures, or slightly different textures, if all woul : butch_toenail

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  it's time to kick ass, and chew bubble gum .... and i'm all outta gum is that pirated (i dont thin... : abrasion
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    actually that line is from the movie "They Live." Go check it out on IMDB. : null
    • hahah...now we get to laugh at him. : Ass Cobra
    • That movie rocks. : x-eyd|mary
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  I totally agree with you. Dukem Nukem 3d (which I liked) definitely used various lines from movies to e... : null
  • This sort of thing is right along the same lines of 'sampling', which got so much attention when a lot ... : Pointy

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  excellent point. i would uh.. mod this up or something if i could. :) : Steve Gibson
  • do it! do it now sTeve! STICK IT TO THE MAN! : alien
• As one of the mappers for YPOD, we did use some recreated levels, the original Doom textures were used a... : Cless

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• http://www.shugashack.com/funk.y?id=802154 : ease_one

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  I don't remember Bruce saying 3DR ripped everything out of ED. Most of the lines they stole were from ED... : Ogre[SBD]
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    Let me fill you in. they're rip-off artists. Let them get their own damn material. It's called hiring : seemlar
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      Right, thanks for finding the quotes, but I still fail to see how he's an idiot, a whiner and a fucking ... : Ogre[SBD]
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        Why he's an idiot: "Tachyon: The Fringe will kick little Duke's ass any day" Why he's a whiner: ... : seemlar
        • Yes - but recording artists can't 'sample' stuff, which is using little bits of other people's music in... : Pointy
• agreed bruce = WHINGER. : abrasion