Eh?

This is kind of ironic, but I am on 128k ISDN and I seem to be the only one on here that is happy with my service. I\'m using Southwestern Bell and a local ISP, and my connection is very reliable. I get good pings to quake servers, download at 15k/s, and that\'s all I need. Maybe it\'s just because I\'m patient, but I don\'t have complaints.

\"I think everyone here is ignoring the real issue, which is that *ANY* internet access blows at this point\"

-#58

Mine doesn\'t.

Well, I think you guys have it good for the simple fact I have cable modem and just my damn luck it goes through an ISP called Merit. If anyone is familiar with them, to gamers, they suck ass. I called the company whom I go through and said why should I go through their system? I am a resident and they supply the university. I got back a pretty nasty letter saying Merit doesn\'t like us gamers either. I wrote back saying then they should get out of the business cause it\'s our money that is making them wealthy. Face it @Home really does suck and response #9, we know you work for @Home so take your puny bandwidth and go play some card games with the AOL\'ers

Do any lpb\'s really give a flying frag what dialup customer\'s problems are? Do modem users feel sorry for someone who may have to suffer a ping in excess of 60 occasionally? I think everyone here is ignoring the real issue, which is that *ANY* internet access blows at this point. Why? Because the providers are only concerned with their bottom line. This is particularly true of the larger providers, and the phone companies in general. When you can only connect at 26400 that is usually not the ISPs fault BTW, that is the phone lines in your area. It may even cause you to not be eligible for DSL when it\'s available, as it requires decent copper to operate.

Instead of bitching at LPB\'s modem users with connection speed issues need to contact their bell companies with letters faxes (the poorer quality the better in this case) and phone calls until they are able to connect to the full potential of your modem. Cable users and DSL subscribers need to pester their service providers before every foo on the block gets online and drains your bandwidth to the point you consider digging the old 9600 outta the shed. Arm yourself with traceroutes, ping times and modem logs, set up web-pages, use your online provider\'s message boards to spread the gospel and quit being such bitches to one another, already!

McRANdello

BTW nice ascii you got there Marcus, but um if it don\'t look like this-> (_!_) then you might wanna get some topical ointment for it :)

everyone hates LPB\'s except LPB\'s. THat is the bottom line. I hate \'em, but once I get cable or xDSL or something, I\'ll love LPBs. Who cares anyway? my2cents

Let\'s set the record straight. No matter how you slice it, dial-up blows. How can not being able to connect to a service for a few days be as horrible as it sounds? Maybe you find it annoying, but think about what modem users go though. We always get disconnected, we download slow as shit, it\'s a real pain in the ass to play games online, too. I\'ve played action quake on some servers with my fellow modem users, and I do pretty well. A good deal of the time I\'m one of the top three on the server. But what happens as soon as an lpb joins with his 50 ping? He owns the game, that\'s what happens. I usually just quit right away as soon as one joins. It\'s frustrating. I\'m most certainly not saying all lpb\'s are only good because of their ping, but don\'t you think it helps quite a bit? And don\'t get me started on downloads. Does it really matter that you can\'t connect to your service five days a month when you finish downloads in less than an hour that would take me five hours or more on my 28.8? While I\'m struggling to download a forty meg game demo for that amount of time, you could download it, install it, and play most of the way through it. The phone lines in my area are pieces of shit, I never ever connect at 28.8. I\'ll be lucky if we\'re ever able to get cable over here.

I\'d just like to say that #29 can suck my hairy cha-klunk, and furthermore, if you ever do that again, I will track you down and beat you over the head with my 28.8 piece of shite. I connect at roughly 26.4 if I\'m lucky, usually just 24. So you can bite me.

I *am* really jealous of ppl with high speed connections. Maybe it\'s b/c I have to provide phone support to a number of them and go home to my X-2, non upgradeable modem every night due to there being no options that aren\'t cost prohibitive...

That said, I can understand why the lpb\'s out there are bitching about cable. I agree with whoever said that @home==aol. Does anyone remember what it took to get AOL to even provide enough dialups for their customers...and sure, they\'re whining, but unless something miraculous happens guess how shitty cable and DSL access is going to be by the time it comes to *YOUR* neighborhood. It\'s just the same old overselling story but at higher speeds.

McRAndello

#46 \"I think it\'s pretty funny when LPBs join a server full of HPBs and then think that they are good. Chances are you aren\'t very good, \"

That just doesn\'t make sense. Just because someone can afford a better connection, they aren\'t a good player? LOL

I live in Missoula Montana, we have NO DSL, NO CABLE, and the phonelines are bad in quite a few places, I am currently using Bigsky.net and don\'t have to dial out for a connection so its not to bad. But, i have tried for the last year to get any other connection than a dialup, i connect at 42000 because of the downloads (ok..). And get about 4.5 k/sec usually.. its ok for my connect but its nothing compared to even 20 k/sec... I would easily pay 40 bucks a month for 20 k/sec (lets say u/d). Damnit reliabilty can be important but I would STILL rather have 20 k/sec and a connection that sometimes goes out, than this. Not to mention the pings, I would love to get a 130 ping!, and that would be bad for a cable......

oh my god you cable modem users are _lame_
\"these 30k/sec download speeds suck a nut, I\'m so lagged with my 140 ping. These 80 meg demos take sooo long, it takes me 10 minutes to finish them.\"
Shut the hell up, why are you complaining??!! The only thing I understand why you guys are complaining about is the unreliability, but complaining at those fast speeds... for that you guys can just suck it.

I had @Home in Seattle, WA for about 10 months. The service was OK with the speed for web browsing/ downloading being pretty damn impressive most of the time. My biggest complaint was, however, that if you tried to play a game of quake outside the \"cable circle of love\" (24.xxx.xxx.xxx) you got plagued by much higher pings with 10-25% packet loss.

I just moved to a new place, and snagged a 256 DSL line (this has been my first month with it)... much more reliable, same web browsing speeds, with slightly lower download speeds (20-30 Kbytes/sec). Guess what though? I can finally play on a ton more servers with minimal PL.

It\'s just a matter of what you want I guess... they both blow away dial-up hands down.

-p13

I had @Home in Seattle, WA for about 10 months. The service was OK with the speed for web browsing/ downloading being pretty damn impressive most of the time. My biggest complaint was, however, that if you tried to play a game of quake outside the \"cable circle of love\" (24.xxx.xxx.xxx) you got plagued by much higher pings with 10-25% packet loss.

I just moved to a new place, and snagged a 256 DSL line (this has been my first month with it)... much more reliable, same web browsing speeds, with slightly lower download speeds (20-30 Kbytes/sec). Guess what though? I can finally play on a ton more servers with minimal PL.

It\'s just a matter of what you want I guess... they both blow away dial-up hands down.

-p13

that is suposed to be BionicRectum inthe message bellow... so suck it..

You just all can suck my hairy bee-hind @home is the geatest service on this planet. Before @home we would have had to pay 10 times as much for what they deliver and maybe not get that great customer service that they offer.S, you just better lay off of them,
I love @Home ... sincerely BinicRectum

I think it\'s pretty funny when LPBs join a server full of HPBs and then think that they are good. Chances are you aren\'t very good, and if you were a HPB like the rest of us you\'d get your ass kicked.

#43 blams LPB\'s for his sucky gameplay. Yet if he was in an all HPB game he would still suck. Nobody cares about your slow connection, get over it.

Sounds like you\'re complaining right now, #43.

The only reason you play EQ and not Quake is because those old lines you WHINE about can\'t handle it.

I\'m gonna go back to downloading pr0n at 500k/s now.

OMG STFU you fucking lpbs i have the worst fucking phone lines and i dont complain-im complaining now cause you damn lpbs get so pissed when your ping spikes to 100. I connect at no faster than 14.4 on my 56k modem. Try downloading your pr0n on that. You complain at 10k/s and i rarly get more than 2. its ok tho cause i play everquest which in my opinion kicks quake in so many ways buy it its more addictive than quake.

No, you don\'t get it. We complain when our ping goes from 40 to 45.

Modem users are whiners.

Don\'t you people know that cable modems work in blocks and thats why you might be getting shitty service. When i say \"blocks\" i mean that everyone in your neighborhood that uses cable uses the same cable that you access. So the more users there are the more it hogs the bandwith. Then again, your shitty service might be due to @home being the shittiest service. And, does anyone know if roaadrunner is any good? I live in cenral florida and time warner is being a lazyass and not installing it til september and i want to see if it\'s worth the wait.
P.S. To All you lpb\'s out there who complain when your ping goes from 90 to 130:Fuck off!!! No one needs to hear your bitching!!! Modem users have it bad enough....

I have @Home and I am happy with the speeds. I get around 200k/sec from my ISP\'s test site and I average around 30-50kb/sec from most servers. Don\'t expect to get 100kb/sec on ever server you download off of. And I\'ll never ever go back to Dial Up (Slow Speeds, Busy Signals, constant disconnections)

#38 can kiss my ass and my obscene amount of bandwidth.

You asswipes need to quit complaining. At least you have an alternative to a dialup. Geez...stfu you fucked up lpbs...you get the world and then you want more....go suck a dick.

@home was real fucked up two years ago, and I had a two month long fight with them. The finally found out it was a bad modulator card in the router. I also started a web page, that happened to be listed in the consumer opinion section. They gave me a few months free service to remove it. All networks are screwed up one way or another. LANS tend to break no matter what, but my beef with @home is their shitty service. Its been this way for a couple of years now. BTW, I was one of the first to get a cable modem.

<twiddles with Modem> SCREW ALL YOU LPBs out there... I get 5kbytes/s if I\'m lucky... And mindspring seems to have the most consistent ping at a steady 170ms. It\'s not great, but it never changes. I guess that\'s all I can ask for since I\'m a dial up user.

Excuse me as I cry while waiting for this download though.

Since so many people seem to be bitter
about other people being able to get high speed
connections, I just thought I would let
you know that in the metro DC area you
can get 7.1 Mbps DSL for $200/month.

I have a couple friend who have @HOME, and to them i say: BWAAAAAAAAAhAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAH!!..... well in all seriousness, i feel sorry for them cuz i get faster downloads, better pings, and something called CONSISTENCY, with my frosty brew of ADSL :)

I used to have @home, but the unreliability and extremely slow service (I haven\'t even gotten 56K speeds for the last month!) forced me to go back to using a 56k.. that\'s how shitty @home is. One time I called their tech support just to see how long I would be put on hold. I put down the receiver, came back an hour and 20 minutes later, and I was _still_ on hold. That is bad. Unfortunately,eventually all cable modem services will become like this because of the shared bandwidth =[
Road Runner, although, I heard is a very very fast and reliable service at the moment, so if it\'s available in your area, get it.

Did I mention that here in Halifax on the east Coast of Canada we have two cable and a DSL provider, charging no more than $30/US per month? My download speeds average 200k/s, maxing at around 700k/s. I can never see any network slowdown because of the time of day. Just thought you\'d all like to know what it\'s like to live in a country with decent lines (definitely not usa).

#29 is full of shit. I have cable (NOT @home) and 500KB/sec is bullshit. I can download from my ISP\'s TUCOWS mirror at 220KB/sec, but most other sites average 50KB/sec.

500KB/sec would be 4000Kb/sec, and that is simply not possible over cable, ergo #29 is replete with caca.

To all the people in Africa complaining that they have to sell a cattle for each second of 1kbps service...

Just because your net service is at the extreme low end of the shitty spectrum doesn\'t mean 3kbps or 20kbps for $40/month is suddenly a luxury. In relative terms yes, just like stepping in a 1/2 pound of dogshit rather than a pound. It still sucks.

And before you proceed to bitch about my post, I\'m on a 33.6.

Hehehehe, I\'ve got Road Runner by our fine friends at Time Warner Cable. I get sub-100 pings on over 500 different Q2 servers. The fastest download speed I\'ve seen is just over half a meg a second. (Average is about 125k/sec.) I do feel sorry for all you poor bastards. Oh, did I mention that it\'s just $37. per month?

An normal phone bill in germany is around 300$ a month ( isdn - fastest you can get here ) so PLEASE stop complaining .. wo needs fast speed if you dont pay per use ? Flatrate is a wonderful thing .. be habby that you guys got it :(

you\'re all pansy sooks. i\'m in australia, we only have cable for $60 a month and 100 mb download limit, now tell me this why are you complaining??!?!

....and you people actually bought into @Home\'s marketing department.
ROTFL
Anyone who believes what\'s printed on the box at face value deserves what they get.
Consider @Home a quick lesson in corporate economics...and don\'t expect other cable, or even DSL companies, to NOT make similar outrageous claims.

There seems to be a great deal of bitterness caused by high speed connections. The reason we @HOME customers are so angry is that they have yet to live up the the standards THEY THEMSELVES have set. Their technical support is useless. If you e-mail them you usually get a reply stating all the FAQs. If you call them you are always put on hold for at least 30 minutes. If you pay for a high speed connection you would expect faster speeds than 5 kilobytes/sec. And my max speed since March is 13 kilobytes/sec. For those of you too lazy to do the math...that\'s about 4.33 times the speed of a dial-up connection. That\'s from the advertised \"up to 100 times faster.\"

Exactly, some people have the right idea. I could care less about all you modem people who say we take it for granted. We probably do in some sense. But when I pay $40/Month for a service that advertises fast speed, and reliability. Quite simply, I expect to get it. Whether I pay $10, $20, or $40 I want to get what I pay for. Being on a regular modem doesn\'t give you any right to bash us because we find the service unsatisfactory either. Why don\'t you try it and see for yourself all the problems the service has? And if you can\'t then don\'t speak. The @Home service is untested, very buggy, and I have far too many problems. The tech support doesn\'t give a crap and I haven\'t heard anyone admit to it\'s problems or any plans to fix them, quite simply it\'s a new service that wasn\'t tested well enough and wasn\'t ready to be introduced commercialy and now they have to deal with the problems. You shouldn\'t be afraid to stand up for what you think is unacceptable, and sometimes the @home service is unacceptable. Not to say that it\'s entirely a bad service. I\'m still sticking with it for now because I belive it may be improved in the long run, and DSL isn\'t available here yet. But at times I use my regular modem connection for web surfing, because it\'s a lot better.

Hmm..@Home..the cable version of AOL?