Wheel of Time Update

I think there will be a good Unreal engine game someday and WOT might be it. Or might not - I\'m open minded enough to wait and see. Deus Ex might be the one. In the meantime I\'ll see you on a Q2Arena or Q2CTF server.

Tim Sweeney is a brilliant programmer who made the enormous mistake of trying to copy and surpass the accomplishments of John Carmack and idsoftware instead of creating something original with his technology. That\'s why fans of Quake-engine games show him and Unreal no mercy now that it has failed to replace or even challenge Quake as the king of 3d shooters.

#16 LOL, great post :)

#17, don\'t forget that at random intervals some tree-hugging hippies decide both sides need an \"intervention\" and say \"why can\'t we all just get along, brothers. Let\'s enjoy ALL games, not just id or Epic ones. Let\'s all smoke pot and make love down by the fire\". Those guys I hate the most, because they\'re trying to tone down the hilarious flame war.

My personal observation. A thread opens. One person says (and I quote) \"UNREAL SUCKS\" (in an assortment of colors, usually red, origional topic doesn\'t matter :). Then an Unreal fan says something to the jist of \"Id brainwashed fool, open your mind\" (like we are talking about race relations or something truly important). A series of godeing(sp?) replies from both camps ensues. Then some calm rational talk between the 2 groups then some more flaming :). all in all I enjoy it immensly, please keep it up ;)
p.s. UNREAL SUX, QUAKE (version number here) SUCKS, TRIBES is cool :) etc etc etc...
flame away

The Unreal theory:

There are 4 types of people in the 3d fps world.
1)Those who are too new to have gotten Unreal
2)Those who heard about how bad Unreal was and never got it
3)Those who got Unreal and bitched about how bad it was
4)Those who got Unreal and loved it because it reminded them of Geoff fucking them in prison (if you dont get it, go over to the messageboard and look around).

No one cares about group #1. They\'re all newbies and they suck. Groups #2 and #3 however, are accused of being \'brainwashed by id\' by group #4. Groups #2 and and #3 think group #4 might be a little off their rockers. Group #4 can\'t seem to handle that if it werent for id there wouldn\'t be an Unreal. Also, group #4 decides that in order to pay back groups #2 and #3 for being right, they are going to try and put them down at every opportunity. This is where we are at currently.

The way I see it, there are several ways we can go:
1)Groups #2, #3, and #4 can continue fighting because UT will suck and Q3 will not (not to mention OpFor is looking good, but wait, thats on an id game engine, sorry :).
2)Groups #2 and #3 can bribe group #4 to shut up by threatening to send pictures of them with Geoff to their respective local news papers.
3)Groups #2, #3, and #4 can team up and destroy group #1, thus ridding us of all those annoying newbies.
4)Group #4 will go silently join group #3
5)Group #4 will move to Half-Life and start saying how much better TFC is than any id game, and when its mentioned, say Valve almost completely rewrote the Q2 engine.

There is a test on Thursday, study well.

P.S. If you think I\'m serious, go smoke some more crack. :)

Milk SUCKS!! j/k i like milk :) I\'m kinda curious if any developers look at the board and think, \"oh man, all the negativity... we are gonna bomb....\" or more like \"one guys opinion. let em play and see we are da bomb :)\"

because we arent politicians and we dont need to make everyone happy...

i agree tho, that would be a more diplomatic way to state that you think the game will suck...but every time you state something you are just stating your opinion, like you could say \"this game wont be fun\" or the more wordy but less offensive \"in my opinion, this game wont be fun\"...but really, those two statements should be interpreted the same way...basically tho, i think people like to joke around and when you joke you usually have to make fun of something...in this case, Wheel of Time, in most other cases, Daikanita...

If you see someone saying Unreal sucks etc, it doesn\'t necessairly mean they only like id games. All it means is that they don\'t like Unreal.

I think there\'s a mentality with some people out there that everyone who doesn\'t like Unreal-type games has been brainwashed by id. Most people I know who don\'t particularly like Unreal also happen to enjoy many other FPS games, such as Tribes or Half-Life, which aren\'t made by id, and certainly aren\'t like Quake.

Get over it. Maybe UT/Unreal sucks. Maybe it doesn\'t. But you don\'t have to attribute every negative comment to some kind of {brainwashing by id software}.

How about this: Don\'t say \"The game will suck!\", say \"I don\'t think I will like this game.\" Sound like a plan? I hope so...

Ah well, I\'m gonna play a round of WoT, just for having fun. And after that I\'ll play some Q3 - just for having fun.

i dont think there are many or any people here that play ONLY id games...i enjoyed half-life very much...many people like tribes, i could go on, but i wont, because i dont like talking to you...but its just that some of us arent into the fantasy/less-action-orientated games like unreal and wheel of time...dont assume that just cos someone says they dont like a game thats not made by id its because its not made by id...and not liking a game not made by id should not mean that you are closed minded, it should just mean you dont like the game...in the case of wheel of time, obviously none of us have played it so it could be considered closed minded to already say we wont like it but i think one can gather enough from the previews to decide with a reasonable amount of accuracy (something like 96.534%, thats just a rough esitmate) what the chances are of it not sucking....

#6, i actually think it is just the id game players who are the most vocal. i do get emails generally every day about games other than id created products.

it\'s amazing the # of people who read comments as opposed to actually posting any.

a rough guess, for every 1 commment, 200 people read it.

You are going to suck, as soon as your moms come home.

no, a secret would be something we dont already know...

i\'ve got a secret for you guys

the game is gonna suck.