Team Arena FPS Fix

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My point is: After all the choppiness and low FPS, id is crazy if they think most of us will dare to buy the whole game without having a chance to check if it has been fixed. Id, release a patch for the demo so we can see how it performs in our trusty computers, please...

http://www.quake3world.com/ubb/Forum22/HTML/000274.html


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**Sigh**
Kerbuffel is chanting the "I-don't-want-to-pay-for-this-id-should-give-it-away-free" mantra that we've seen since the day we announced the project. About the only original thing is that he's been allowed to collect them all into one long rant and been given a straight man to play them off.

If you'r someone who has already decided that you don't like teamplay on Q3A, then Team Arena isn't likely to be a conversion experience for you. Don't buy it. But don't complain when your warez copy doesn't allow you to play online either.


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Paul Jaquays
id Software
Designer
Moderator: Level Design, Bot, Models & Skinning Forum
email: paulj@idsoftware.com

can we get back bitching about people bitching about Q3 rather then my lack of grammar? ;)

direction at any time DO put a test on your reflexes

who the fuck am i? Mr T?

damn typos

One good thing about Team Arena? They finally finished the damn menu system! Looked like a 3rd grader programmed the ones in Q3A.

thanks id!

Monkeu, mistreated and nofxsux- Your arguments are no more valid than the people you arguing with. You guys harbour the same elitist attitude you accuse GodSucks and syr.edu of having. Both parties are saying this game is bad/good and I know cause I have better taste/I know better.

In my not so humble opinion I would have to partially agree with GodSucks. Everyone here seems to claim that they started with Doom through Q3 and they know but I doubt it is true. Usually I can tell who I am wasting my time with when they say "Q2 rocked". If you played QW and were good at it the sudden drop in speed of gameplay would be annoying. It made me think "Boy id didn't have a clue as to what made your heart pound in 1v1 QW matches". 1v1 QW I was almost at the point of shaking. You needed to be real fast in movement, shots and weapon switches.

Now with Q3 its better than Q2 (thank god), the weapon balance is nice. The maps get a thumb down. Honestly an "Ultimate Deathmatch" game that has only 3 maps played in 1v1 tournaments. As a sequel coupled with id's own hype, more is expected of Q3. The single player maps for Q1 were a blast for QW ffa. Big enough for 10 ppl and lots to choose from. Q3 ffa maps are cramped causing a great deal of spam (be honest guys its true. No BS). The maps also lack mood and atmosphere. I was really disapointed with the artists work. A lot of them look so multicolored and there appears to be no theme or colorscheme to the maps. Some of them incredibly basic.

I think the biggest factor in determining a wether a game is good or not for most people is wether they are good at it. For me Q3 was an exercise in frustration with the predicition code while on modem. I like the game x2 as much now I have cable I'm not shooting through people. The most basic and most important thrill of any Quake game is being able to own or outsmart the other guy. And I believe that is why people utter such insanities as "Q2 rocked". I am fairly badass now I have cable and thus I like Q3 much more. HOWEVER let it be made known that I think Q3 is a good game, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is a shitty sequel. A good sequel takes the good of the previous improves it then adds more new great ideas.

So that "the map that comes with the demo is big, and has lots of shaders etc., which is why it sucks" turns into "we've realized that our code was a bit sucky, and that was a beta anyhoo..."

don't get me wrong, I'll give id blowjobs anyday, but seriously guys, it was bad enough when you didn't include this in the full product...

-bal

poop stinks... so does ta, for the moment.... will the retail come with an air freshener?

ominous whree are u

Dammit. I got school today. Fuck school. Shit...Mom's callin'. Talk to you guys l8r. *sigh*

i kind of like team arena...that new scoreboard is l33t

whens the freakin next q3 patch coming out? my q3 is totally borked and i cant play it!

Quake 3 still sucks.

Good night

ZZzz Time for me... But before I go, some of you fux need to learn a little id history before you cream over Q3. Go buy Doom and Quake (because you DON'T have them) and then you will see that id is going down hill. Once you play those games you will see the holes in Q3. Also you will find out it's not all about pretty colors and curves.

The only brilliance coming from id nowadays is from Carmack's office.

Quake 3: Team Arena will create revenue for id Software.

Sincerely,

Marcus Allen
CBS Sports

Maybe my use of "content" is the wrong word. Maybe "effort" is better. When I said content I'm NOT meaning the # of maps, models etc...

I meant Q3 goes no deeper then " Wow look at all the pretty colors, shaders". But once you look past all that the overall "effort" in making the "Ultimate Deathmatch Game" has failed. Hell, we aren't even getting more teamplay options till now, as a commercial add-on!

I would rather look at the Q3 engine over the Q1 engine any day, but I just can't look past the dumbed down game play.

I would appreciate that a Demo Test / Beta be labelled as such.

Thank you.

Final Point Release?

Duffy seems mistaken.

http://www.bluesnews.com/files/idstuff/quake3/win32/q3pointrelease.shtml

*snicker*

How quickly we all forget the 1.25 patch that wasn't really a patch.

so that means that the "demo" is actually "BETA".
lol
what a bunch a fags, at id
"get the TA *demo*/*cough*beta*cough* here."
boooooooooo

some guys are SPOILT. ID rocks. They make games light years ahead of most comapnies (minus a handful). They have a following so they release stuff that gets feedback. The feedback is either:
It works.
_______ needs fixing.

If you dont want to be one to try it before the release then DON'T DOWNLOAD IT.
OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Thank you.

ANTI-ANTI-ID ARMY!

the shack whine brigade shall dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

I BAG OUT ID SOFTWARE AND Q3 BECAUSE THAT MAKES YOU K3WL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111

i dont see what the problem is, the demo worked well enough for id on their test machines, they release it, and THEN an issue - ie the fps comes to light... they fix it for the final release...

how many games (and demos) have come out recently which didnt require some patch or another?

fucking whiners

yeah, im a young prgrammer...still in school and taking a software enigneering class now which teaches you that creating a 100% bug free product is unrealistic (if the program is complex anyways) with the current time retraints on development...and that correctness testing (the most common method used to validate software) cannot show the absence of bugs, only the presence...in other words, some bugs are inevitable....however, id products have always been very solid for me, so i dont feel the need to jump on them for this...

Doesn't matter, Quake still sux0rz.

--Zilla

Not significant frame loss? I have a PIII 1GHz, 256MB PC800 Rambus, and a GeForce 2 GTS and at 1024, 32-bit color with everything turned up its unplayable, about 20-25 fps. In Q3 I can play at 1280 x 1024 at same settings with about 50 fps. WTF? Release a patch id, please :)