Counter-Strike v1.0

I think the model animations are retarded. Improved but how do you release the shit when the upper body is so stiff. Its asthetically displeasing. I like the sounds when shot and the lack of the confusing animations. You can tell you hit by the blood and the small animations. Better than the guy pointing at the floor but still shooting me.

I started playing with Beta 6.5 (whichever one came out with the new HL netcode) and I liked the accuracy better back then. But what the hell, get a rifle, zoom and crouch and you are set. Which is kind of lame but oh well.

#173 So they do exist. I never really suspected anyone of using these things. MAybe I'm just too used too calm with being owned.

I've noticed a lot of people on a couple CS 1.0 servers complaing about how the models suck, are gay, ghey, etc.. The new models are not the problem. It's the new animations and new animation system. The new animations are very good, it just may take awhile for people to get used to the new run / walk / turn animations. It's now very TFC like.

Get over it... CS 1.0 is still CS and CS owns your ass!!!

What have they done to cs_office?

That was a good map.

Allright, time to voice my thoughts now that I've had a bit of a chance to play 1.0...

First, the models.
Purely aesthetically, they're pretty good. The SAS model is much better, and the new Arctic skin kicks ass. I preferred a blue shirt on the Gorilla model, but whatever. But the ANIMATIONS! These are a joke, right? No movement above the waist while running, little or no reaction to being shot, etc etc etc. They're dumb. The only positive is that they no longer flail and point their gun at the ground, which had a tendency to fool me into thinking I wouldn't be hit, while from their POV they were still shooting perfectly straight. Now it's at least consistent...

New models grade: C

Now the weapons.
FN Five-SeveN: I dig it. Decent 2nd round purchase after a 1st round loss. Lots of ammo, decent firing rate, acceptable damage. Something I'll be eager to pick up when playing as a T.

H&K UMP 45: Pretty good here too. Does enough damage to make up for the slow firing rate, and when bursted it's accurate enough for gov't work. Priced good.

Sigarms SG-550: A pile. It's like the G3/SG1 except it's cheaper (+), weaker (-), and louder (-). Maybe the CS developers hadn't noticed, but no one uses the G3/SG1, so why would we want a weaker/cheaper/louder version of it? It's so unrealistic too. IRL it's identical to the 552 except for the longer, heavier barrel, adjusted firing rate, and a serious scope. You should at least be able to hit the broad side of a barn while moving.

Weapons grade: B

Now the maps, or rather revamp of cs_office:
*SOB SOB SOB* It's a CRIME I tell you! Office was *easily* the best hostage map in the default pack in 7.1. It still may be 2nd or 3rd, but that says more about the other maps than about the new office. Trust me on this. I played A LOT of 7.1 cs_office, on both teams. I had it figured out. The team that won was, factors like luck aside, the team with the most brains and best able to adapt their tactics to the other team. Most maps have a trick, be it rampant camping, stealth, speed, numbers, whatever. /But office didn't have a trick/. With fully *5* CT entrances and a maze of internal hallways, there was no single strategy, no lynchpin tactic that ruled the day. Anyway, I won't bore you with the details of my love affair with cs_office, not even the time I killed 5 terrorist (3 by myself) with the TMP, but suffice it to say that it RoXx0r3d. And the new texture set, while amusing and novel, is pretty gawdy and not at all real-looking.

Map grade: F

Well, the average of a C, B, and an F is about a D+ (1.67). Not lookin too good there. Maybe I'm giving too much weight to the new cs_office, but really it IS the biggest change. The SG-550 will impact gameply not at all, the 5-7 a little, the UMP quite a bit. The new models are dorky but don't affect gameplay much. The remake of cs_office, OTOH, is a PROFOUND change that almost makes me want to quit. I mean, if the CS team can't identify a gem like cs_office(7.1) (and turds like cs_siege), then where is this game going?

MoNsTeR

ok a lot of this sites are really sucking so I went ahead and mirrored it at my site for you l337 shack people, you can get it at http://www.bltz.net/cs/ except the linux server because i couldn't find a fuking person with it who could send it fast enough. anywho those sites they have on fileplanet seem to not be working.

Hey steve, put up a quake 1 server!

alright, I've been ignoring this and just not playing the game for a while, but ever since beta 7 i've had this problem... Whenever I try to connect to a Counter-Strike server, it seems to load fine and then after a while it knocks me back to the server selection screen and says "Could not complete connection". I'm on cable.. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Since there doesn't seem to be a link to a readme or anything, what are the changes?

Maps dumped, new maps? (I heard foption was gone)
Are the new weapons unique, or just similar guns with new looks?
Has aiming and movement been changed again?

Okay been playing more....

Some of the maps suck...they really do, theres one with a vehicle which is really annoying...

Then again some maps are really good...

Many of the matches are now camping matches...

I dunno...ill keep trying...

Is it me or does the new version feel laggy even at a low ping.
Evertything isn't nearly as smooth as it used to be, possibly due to the new animation? Just seems jerky.

Damn the link to D/l seems fubared

Hawkeye

can you please upload your aliases to 24.19.251.65 hawkeye/hawkeye

Thanks!

-Lex

Ok, just got done playing for awhile. Here's my take on v1.0

Guns:
5-7: Glock with more power. Also seems to be the most innaccurate hand gun now. I think the Desert Eagle is less accurate, too.

UMP45: Neat gun, amazingly unique. I figured it would be worthless or a copy of one of the existing guns. Unfortunately the rate of fire is unrealistically slow. It is VERY VERY slow. Probably half the P90 and 30% less than the MP5. It seems more like a 25 round USP. It's pretty damned accurate while running around, too. Well balanced, IMHO.

Sig 550 Sniper: Completely fucking useless. It's an exact copy of the SG1, with a 30 round magazine of weaker 5.56 NATO rounds. It's completely inaccurate unless you are COMPLETELY stopped. ROF is way slow, even if you're not zoomed it just like the SG1. The Scout still beats the shit out of the SG1, and no surprise the Sig 550 Sniper sucks even worse.

New models: I think they look more realistic and less cartoonish than the old models. The running and walking animations look more realistic. There is less flailing around when shot and animations still don't blend together. Overall I like the new models and animations. At least they don't look like they're dying when the get shot in the foot with a single 9mm.

Map changes: Of the changed maps I've only played Office so far. It's way different with new walls and a new path all the way around the back of the map. The new textures look nice. I'm not sure if I like the layout yet.

BTW, that gamers.com link overviewing the map changes is retarded. It said the vent in 747 was new and it has been like that since Beta 7.

Yeah, the maps need refreshed. 747 needs to either be restored to Beta 6 state or removed. It blows in its current state. Prodigy and nuke could use a new texture set. Assault needs to be completely revamped. Siege with the APC and with less terrorist cover is getting better, but it could use one or two VERY minor changes to fix the gameplay. Lots of the maps need revision or just need to be removed in favor of new maps. But the CS team is not the brightest when it comes to map selection unforunately.

Overall I think I will like v1.0 more than previous versions. But it's still an evolutionary and not revolutionary upgrade. Might as well call it Beta 8. If it wasn't for the same old maps it would be a bigger change.

erm..server is down for the moment, i'm gonna finish up xfers for now. I need my bandwidth hehe (pr0n).

it'll be back up later for anyone else who needs CS.

does it seem that the awp is more accurate?? i don't know i haven't used it yet...

Too bad the actual models dont look like the shots from 3dsmax/LW.

i cant find a damn place to downlaod this piece of shit....and yes..it needs more maps...how many times can you play the SOS? (same old shit)

Okay I finally played...I have always advocated that I dislike this game...

This is much much better, accuracy with weapons is waaay better.

The animations did look dorky but nothing I will bitch about...

The only thing I still cant stand is how the fucking models almost looks the same with different colors. Is there some way so I can have one model only for each team.

I died probably 9-10 times hesitating pulling the trigger wondering if that fool in front of me is a teammate...

hey steve,

PUT THE SHACK CS SERVER UP!!!

Thanks!

:)

I have just finished updating my aliases, anyone want me to up them?

once again people:

ip = 24.188.170.106
port = 21

login/pass = cs

what is available?:
cs update 7.1->1.0
cs full version 1.0

*NOTE* = Only 2 people on server at a time. It's running off of cable, i've set it only to 2 users so they get max bandwidth. Have fun.

*Opens trenchoat*

"pssst, check it out..."

Pr0n spraypaints for Half-Life right here ---> http://www.geocities.com/magsco85/hlsprays.html

yeah too bad the map with the dam is NOT in the release.

# 126

If I'm downloading will your FTP kick me off if more than 2 people try to connect?

oh, and btw, those are for the win32 system...no linux shi0t.

can someone post what numbers the new weapons are?

so is this bad boy available in stores yet?

ip = 24.188.170.106
port = 21

login/pass = cs

what is available?:
cs update 7.1->1.0
cs full version 1.0

*NOTE* = Only 2 people on server at a time. It's running off of cable, i've set it only to 2 users so they get max bandwidth. Have fun.

Not really seeing the model/animation problems. It looked nice and spit shined when I jumped in this morning. Can't wait to get home from work.....

*sigh*

It STILL only tells you you were killed by "headshot" instead of the weapon, doesn't it?

What a bunch of stuck up cunts make CS. They don't even listen to user-feedback.

-J

Oh yeah nothing like installing Half Baked...patching then deleting most of it so that i dont need...TFC for example

Wait, Wait, don't tell me...The Shack CS server is down!

:)

Other then the fact the models are establishing as suck...how is the rest of it...can you actually hit shit now?

The mod is alright, but it's not worth full price at retail.

The problem is gooseman and cliffe's huge ego always gets in the way.

I dont particularily like Counterstrike.

I feel like I should be taking some sort of treatment or something.

actually the first 2 shots with the AK are the most deadliest...